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Itís Crazy: Why Do So Many Jews Support Abortion?
ClashDaily.com ^ | March 4, 2014 | Jerry Novick

Posted on 03/05/2014 6:35:12 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Throughout history, killing Jews – especially Jewish babies – has been a national pastime for some countries.

Ancient Egypt killed Jewish male children to keep the slave population under control.

King Herod killed all of the Jewish boys under the age of two in an attempt to get rid of the newborn Jesus.

Russia has killed a lot of Jews over the last few centuries. Germany killed over six-million Jews in just six years.

Arabs live to kill Jews.

It’s amazing that there are any Jews left to kill!

You would think that with so many people out to murder them, Jewish people would cherish life above all other things except God. And yet, nobody kills Jewish children quite like the modern Jew. From Jewish-American voters to the government of Israel itself, Jews pull the lever in favor of abortion at an alarming rate.

Israel has never had as staunch a supporter as the modern American Conservative. In the Halls of Power, it is the Conservative who fights the hardest for Israel’s continued protection against Arab incursions and state-sponsored terrorism. In Churches all across America, it is the Conservative who prays fervently for the safety of the Jewish State.

The health of Israel is never far from the Conservative activist’s thoughts, talking points, or priorities.

And yet, American Jews vote for Democrat Presidential candidates at an average rate of 70% since Israel became a country in 1948. So when Conservatives support Israel, it has nothing to do with garnering votes. It’s because Conservatives believe in the sovereignty, importance, and rights of Israel. To a Conservative, Israel is our closest ally not because they oppose the Arabs, but because we cherish their liberty and their right to exist.

However, on the issue of the right to life, there could not be a wider gulf between the American Conservative on one side, and the America Jew and Israeli government on the other. While active Conservatives do everything they can to protect the life of the unborn child, American Jews consistently vote for abortion supporting Democrats. Meanwhile, the government of Israel has one of the most Liberal abortion policies on the planet.

In Israel, the government will pay for most abortions. Oh, they pretend to moderate it by having an “abortion approval council,” but that council rubber stamps over 98% of the requests. And while the doctors and government give lip service to encouraging large families in Israel, they kill around 30,000 unborn children a year.

It is hypocrisy on steroids.

And quite frankly it confuses the heck out of me. Why would a nation that has had to fight so long and so hard for its very survival – for a people who have stared extinction in the face on countless occasions – be so fervently pro-abortion? It makes no sense. Not from a survival of the race angle… Not from a survival of the Jewish homeland angle… And certainly not from a Biblical angle. It frankly does not make sense from any angle at all!

You would think that at the very least Israel would look to encourage adoption over abortion. But the ease with which you can have an unborn Jew killed is the polar opposite of the difficulty it takes to adopt a Jewish child in Israel or from Israel. If you are a foreigner who wants to adopt an Israeli baby, you basically have to become an Israeli citizen with 3 years of residency. And if you are an Israeli wanting to adopt a baby, it’s easier to adopt one from another country and bring it home than to adopt one from a fellow Israelite.

Again, these are policies that make no sense. The Israeli government should be tickled pink to see their people spread across the globe once more. And yet the tragedy that is abortion is all the rage in Israel. It’s as if the Jews are looking to self-select themselves out of existence. They should put up billboards saying “Hey Arabs – just wait a while and our population will be too small to defend itself!”

So it is the American Conservative who is tasked with looking out for the lives of Jewish children here and abroad. It is the American Conservative who stands in the gap for Israel’s right to exist.

It’s past time for Israel to rethink its easy and free abortion-on-demand policy. And it’s also way past time for the American Jew to rethink their voting choices. If you want to protect the future of Israel and of Jews around the world, the right choice is to vote for Conservative candidates. They seem to be the only ones that are pro-Israel.

Jerry NovickJerry Novick lives in a Liberal-Progressive, high-tax Blue State where he dreams of the day when his hard work and judicious savings program allows him and his family to head off to more Conservative climes. Jerry’s resume as a professional writer spans nearly 30 years and pretty much every genre and form you can think of. When not contributing to ClashDaily, he writes political commentary at TheWriteAmerica.com.


TOPICS: Politics; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: abortion; democrats; israel; jews
Pictures in original.
1 posted on 03/05/2014 6:35:12 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Most of the woman that support abortion are the one you wouldnt want to boink anyways ala Sandra Fluke


2 posted on 03/05/2014 6:37:28 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom¬Ö I was refereeing to Obama)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Jewish self-loathing?


3 posted on 03/05/2014 6:38:06 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

For the same reason they support the rest of their liberalism?


4 posted on 03/05/2014 6:41:02 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I think it goes back to jewish history and how they regarded the baby to not have a soul until the quickening. Having an abortion prior to that wasn’t considered “killing a soul”, and having an abortion after the quickening WAS killing a soul. The attitude persisted for 2 millenia and even caught on with nominally christian Europeans.


5 posted on 03/05/2014 6:45:24 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Consider this:

Lawrence Lader was born in 1919 to Jewish parents. In his early adulthood he was a supporter of Marxism. He, along with Betty Friedan and Bernard Nathanson, was one of the founders of the pro-abortion group NARAL. Betty Friedan described him as "the founding father of the abortion movement".

Lader, Nathanson, and Friedan were all Jews, though in fairness to Dr Nathanson it must be pointed out that later in his life he broke with the proDeath movement, became an ardent ProLifer, and converted to Catholicism. By then, though, the damage had been done by he and his colleagues.

6 posted on 03/05/2014 6:56:28 PM PST by Robwin
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The current demographic shift has collectivist/Liberal/Leftist Jews moving toward smaller percentages over the overall community. The numbers of politically/socially/economically conservative Jews, that tend to be traditional, observant, Orthodox, and Chassidic/Hareidi, are growing. This is occurring both in America and Israel.

Why?

Because the Reform, Conservative, Reconstructionist, Humanist and other chiloni Jews aren’t having children hardly any children compared to the Orthodox and other observant Jews.

But what is causing Jews to gravitate toward Torah in greater numbers?

Since the early 1960s Jews who were not observant suddenly started showing up at Orthodox synagogues wanting to learn Torah. This happened in America and other parts of the globe simultaneously. It totally took the rabbis by surprise. Why? For 3,000 years Jews have been running away from God and Torah and as a result being scattered into every land. Suddenly the trend started changing that the Jewish prophets spoke of long ago.

Hosea 3:4-5 - “For the Israelites will live many days without king or prince, without sacrifice or sacred stones, without ephod or idol. Afterward the Israelites will return and seek the LORD their God and David their king. They will come trembling to the LORD and to his blessings in the last days.”

Hosea 6:1 - “Come, let us return to the LORD. He has torn us to pieces but he will heal us; he has injured us but he will bind up our wounds.”

Ezekiel 20:34 - “I will bring you from the nations and gather you from the countries where you have been scattered — with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm and with outpoured wrath.”

Isaiah 11:11-12 NIV - “In that day the Lord will reach out his hand a second time to reclaim the remnant that is left of his people from Assyria, from Lower Egypt, from Upper Egypt, from Cush, from Elam, from Babylonia, from Hamath and from the islands of the sea. He will raise a banner for the nations and gather the exiles of Israel; he will assemble the scattered people of Judah from the four quarters of the earth.”

Jeremiah 32:44 NIV - “Fields will be bought for silver, and deeds will be signed, sealed and witnessed in the territory of Benjamin, in the villages around Jerusalem, in the towns of Judah and in the towns of the hill country, of the western foothills and of the Negev, because I will restore their fortunes, declares the LORD.”

Isaiah 43:5-6,21 - “Do not be afraid, for I am with you; I will bring your children from the east and gather you from the west. I will say to the north, `Give them up!’ and to the south, `Do not hold them back.’ Bring my sons from afar and my daughters from the ends of the earth...”

“... the people I formed for myself that they may proclaim my praise.”

Psalm 107:2-3 NIV - “Let the redeemed of the LORD say this — those he redeemed from the hand of the foe, those he gathered from the lands, from east and west, from north and south.

Zephaniah 3:8-10 KJV - “For then will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the LORD, to serve him with one consent. From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia my suppliants, [even] the daughter of my dispersed, shall bring mine offering”.

Isaiah 26:6 NIV - “In days to come Jacob will take root, Israel will bud and blossom and fill all the world with fruit.”

Isaiah 35:1-2 NIV - “The desert and the parched land will be glad; the wilderness will rejoice and blossom. Like the crocus, it will burst into bloom; it will rejoice greatly and shout for joy....”

So don’t fret about this temporary problem. 100 years from now the words Reform, Conservative, Reconstructionist, Humanist and other such names won’t be used much except in the study of Jewish history.


7 posted on 03/05/2014 6:59:07 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Robwin

Abortion leader Nathanson wrote a good book on his transformation, so did the wild and hard, lesbian gal in Roe v Wade, when she became a pro-life Christian.


8 posted on 03/05/2014 7:01:50 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Jewish Suicide Syndrome. Happens to some secularized Jews who no longer try to uphold any significant connection to their received religious faith in God. Rather, they substitute a secularized “let’s all get together and recast society to make it better” ethos — better in their best judgment .... recalling that “every way of a man is right in his own eyes...”

Some of them believe this is Judaism. It is not, of course, just as a purely “social justice gospel” is not Christianity. Both are modern, secularist substitutes for genuine faith in the Judeo-Christian God of the Bible.

But, they believe themselves. A lot. Just like when Nancy Pelosi gave the (previous) Pope a lecture about how righteous abortion0nDemand is...

Judaism allows for abortions only in limited instances.
The exact boundaries of what is allowed may vary somewhat from rabbi to rabbi or school of faith to school of faith within Judaism, but the basic principle is clearly taught: Choose Life.... Judaism allows for (one may argue, requires) abortion if necessary to save the life of the mother (because there are other human beings already dependent on her). Beyond that one area, some Jewish authorities would permit aborting severely malformed or disabled babies in the womb (the most debilitating conditions). Some Jewish authorities would not permit this.
There are few other areas of exception to the general rule against abortion in Judaism.

But again, there are some “Jews” who do not subscribe to the Biblical moral teachings ... just as there are some “Christians” or “Catholics” who do likewise.

It is very sad. Both that these people have, in reality, abandoned their received religious heritage... and because they often (ignorantly, or disingenuously) still claim to be Christians and Jews.

IMHO, they are not. Rather, they have chosen to follow another path. I also do not believe their path is one that will avail them in the end.


9 posted on 03/05/2014 7:06:00 PM PST by faithhopecharity (" uri)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Is there are problem here?.........

10 posted on 03/05/2014 7:10:28 PM PST by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

they would rather be popular than right


11 posted on 03/05/2014 7:13:29 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

they’re opposed to the Second Amendment as well.

of all the people on the planet you would think Jews would armed to the teeth considering the past.


12 posted on 03/05/2014 7:19:14 PM PST by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Many if not most Jews do not consider the baby to be a baby until after it is born. Until then it is an "entity." Apparently aborting "entities" is no big deal. Ironically, the same word the Palistinian Jihadis use to refer to Israel, the "Zionist entity."
13 posted on 03/05/2014 7:20:37 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Helps to keep the schvartzes under control.


14 posted on 03/05/2014 7:31:27 PM PST by Misterioso
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Many American Jews are not the same as Israeli Jews where Obama enjoys a 2% approval rating.
15 posted on 03/05/2014 7:35:27 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Most Jews are only ethnically Jewish and have rejected their God.


16 posted on 03/05/2014 7:35:50 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

jews don’t really mind non-jews aborting their kids. it’s a general statement given the majority of jews in america are liberal.


17 posted on 03/05/2014 7:38:56 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Oddly enough, I trace the roots of this far back, to Biblical times. The ancient Hebrews.

They were never very comfortable with worshiping just JHVH. He was too nebulous, difficult to grasp for many, so many Hebrews strayed to other gods, gods that were easy to understand. Gods that had idols and graven images.

Most importantly, these were “get rich quick” gods that promised tangible prosperity and wealth. With no further need for work. Welfare and food stamps gods.

And all you had to do to get all the free stuff was give your children as burnt offerings to Baal-Moloch.

And while the priests of JHVH fumed and threatened even death for this abomination, time and again Hebrews just could not resist.

Listen to what so many Jews say, even today, how they equate abortion with prosperity and wealth. How their hope for prosperity for all is twisted into equating wealth with death.


18 posted on 03/05/2014 7:40:29 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Jewish law doesn’t equate a fetus with a human being.


19 posted on 03/05/2014 7:44:41 PM PST by Benito Cereno
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Liberal Jews are far more likely to have just one kid if any and intermarry, which decreases the odds the next generation will be Jewish.

It is the conservative, traditional core that is still growing numerically. While it was a smaller percentage of the population 50 years ago, they’ll be a majority within a generation among the young.


20 posted on 03/05/2014 7:55:06 PM PST by tbw2
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

What’s the jewish population in and around a ‘Babylon’ of our age, New York City?

Millions?


21 posted on 03/05/2014 7:56:58 PM PST by delchiante
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I would have thought, that, in response to all those that were taken, during World War II, they would have created a population explosion, to further demonstrate that they are, indeed, the chosen people, carrying out the commandment of being fruitful and multiply, in the face of those that still lived and desired them gone!


22 posted on 03/05/2014 8:13:16 PM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Let’s not forget Debbie (Blabbermouth) Wasserman Schultz couldn’t come up with a reason for Jews to vote for Obama and didn’t she also say a main issue with the Jews is abortion? Maybe the main article mentions this. I doubt if your Orthodox though are this way.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/07/15/Debbie-Wasserman-Schultz-Cannot-Name-a-Reason-for-Jews-to-Back-Obama-Except-Abortion


23 posted on 03/05/2014 8:48:31 PM PST by BeadCounter
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To: Secret Agent Man

It may well be that New York City is a center of Liberalism in the USA and that is where a lot of the USA’s jews are. Remember what Jesse Jackson called NYC.


24 posted on 03/05/2014 8:55:11 PM PST by BeadCounter
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I have heard the definition of “fetus” and “life” by Jews as said here.

Per some posts here of which I have heard that reasoning, let’s not forget Jews like Michael Medved (Michael Savage too? I think if we can say he is still Jewish) are “pro-life”.

Per Medved:

“Jewish law for millennia has been extremely clear, that abortion is only permitted when the life of the mother is directly threatened,” he said. To link Jewish tradition to the pro-choice position is “ludicrous and ignorant.”

...

Nevertheless, abortion on demand is fundamentally contrary to Jewish law, and the general Jewish community attitudes reflect “a deep problem in our community; that we have gotten very far from the idea of viewing children as a blessing, which is the traditional Jewish approach.”

http://www.jewishchronicle.org/article.php?article_id=3308

Also, found some on what Dennis Prager said but it did not have as much clarity as to his position.


25 posted on 03/05/2014 9:14:47 PM PST by BeadCounter
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To: al baby
Most of the woman that support abortion are the one you wouldnt want to boink anyways ala Sandra Fluke

Or are LESBIANS that wouldn't bonk ANY man, and therefore would NEVER be pregnant. So why are they obsessed with a pregnancy they can never experience? Jealousy?

26 posted on 03/05/2014 9:17:20 PM PST by montag813
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To: montag813

A lot of it is demographics, hence, 80% or more of Planned Parenthood’s clinics are in minority neighborhoods. Planned Parenthood is a cash cow for Democrats and one of their puppetmasters.


27 posted on 03/05/2014 9:34:26 PM PST by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter
It may well be that New York City is a center of Liberalism in the USA and that is where a lot of the USA’s jews are. Remember what Jesse Jackson called NYC.

Jews have always been leftists in America, it isn't something from the last 50 years or so, or because of NYC.

In the 1920 election the (actual) Socialist party got 38% of the Jewish vote, the republicans have never won it, FDR was winning 90% of the Jewish vote when Protestant America was voting against him.

28 posted on 03/05/2014 10:53:03 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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Because Christians on principle oppose it.

Yes, it’s that simple regardless of what the conservative Jews argue.


29 posted on 03/06/2014 12:02:21 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“Jews” or Judaism does not support abortion.

However, because of some Talmud passages, orthodox don’t feel the person is a person until they take a breath - I disagree with this. So do a lot of people who had a miscarriage and were unable to formally mourn or have a proper burial. It is one tiny point I don’t agree with formal Orthodox Judaism. I think if the ancient rabbis had had ultrasound machines, they would have known what the women back then did know, about life before birth.

That is one truth about Judaism. But orthodox rabbis, when counseled about an unwanted pregnancy, will counsel the woman to keep the baby or at least give him life. Life is everything in Judaism.

However, there are the nonreligious or fooled by liberalism Jews, whose highest purpose is not living according to the Torah but being liberal. Even from their temples’ bimahs (pulpits) they only hear liberal memes. They don’t know how far from Judaism they are.

I have spoken with many Jewish lib women who say that they vote because of “choice” - they are brainwashed into thinking abortion is very important to women. When I ask them to walk me through what exactly was so important to women, they don’t know how. It’s a myth.

Easy abortions don’t help most women. They might help a woman whose life or family were in danger because she dallied with the wrong man. Or a Muslim woman who was raped. That’s about it. Easy abortions help men have condition free sex.


30 posted on 03/06/2014 12:27:51 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

cause as Ms. Sanger envisioned,
Great way to do away with a whole bunch of negro’s.


31 posted on 03/06/2014 3:41:27 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: ansel12

American Jews are more afraid of Christians than Muslims who want to kill them. They don’t want to be in the same camp as Christians.


32 posted on 03/06/2014 4:15:18 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Kevmo

Ah, but the question then becomes “When in the course of the pregnancy does the individual sprit combine with the physical body?” I’m not smart enough to figure that out, so I tend to be conservative in my estimate. In this case, “conservative” means I cannot agree to anything labelled “abortion”. As for me and my house, we consider that the two children we lost due to natural causes prior to their birth are waiting to greet us after our deaths. If I am right, then Hell has to include some element of aborted children greeting those who killed them. Just something to think about.


33 posted on 03/06/2014 4:33:43 AM PST by Pecos (The Chicago Way: Kill the Constitution, one step at a time.)
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To: delchiante

About 1.5 million in NYC. However, that needs to be parsed.

Both in the US and in Israel, there is an interesting demographic trend among Jews, in that Conservative and Reform Jews, usually the most liberal, are declining in numbers, but the Orthodox are having something of a population boom. In Israel, it is so pronounced that the Orthodox are growing in numbers much faster than are the Arabs.

And the Orthodox are still having their numbers augmented by Russian, Orthodox Jews, who are quite politically conservative, relatively speaking. Conservative and Reform Jews frequently leave Judaism altogether, and just associate with “cultural” Judaism, so their numbers are declining even further.

As you might suspect, Orthodox Jews are generally opposed to abortion. While still only 10% of the NYC Jewish population, eventually they will have a much greater say in the politics of Jews as a whole.


34 posted on 03/06/2014 4:59:41 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: Ann Archy

It is liberalism, and America has always been the nation that they have to overcome.


35 posted on 03/06/2014 11:16:29 AM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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