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‘Deal killer’: Here’s why Dana Loesch can’t support a Ben Carson campaign
Twitchy.com ^ | 3-8-2014 | Twitchy Staff

Posted on 03/09/2014 4:29:49 PM PDT by servo1969

So what do u think. Would you like to see Dr Carson run for president? #RunBenRun
Kira Davis (@KiraAynDavis) March 08, 2014

The CPAC audience loved Dr. Ben Carson’s fired-up speech on Saturday. As always, Twitter buzz shifted to talk about 2016.

“@KiraAynDavis: So what do u think. Would you like to see Dr Carson run for president? #RunBenRun”He can actually say things that need sayin—
Clarisse Ediss (@ClarisseEdiss) March 08, 2014

Carson-Rubio 2016……that's a ticket I would love to see—
Rj Diego (@RJ_Diego11) March 08, 2014

Ben Carson is an awesome advocate for conservatism. There doesn’t need to be any presidential strings attached. Just let him talk. Sheesh.—
RB (@RBPundit) March 08, 2014

I think Ben Carson would be great as a guy who goes around giving good speeches.—
NathanNotNate (@NathanWurtzel) March 08, 2014

Carson: I Don't Want to Run for President, but I Might Have To natl.re/1nsSxEp
National Review (@NROcorner) March 08, 2014

Carson is an accomplished man and he delivers a rousing speech. But it takes more than that to make a great president. TheBlaze’s Dana Loesch raises concerns about Carson’s position on gun rights.

A lot of ppl like Ben Carson. I've spoken with him before. His belief in restriction of gun rights is a deal killer for me, tho. #CPAC2014
Dana Loesch (@DLoesch) March 08, 2014

See that, liberal tolerance mob? You can disagree with Carson without calling him an “Uncle Tom.” How ’bout that?

Carson's past remarks on how gun rights should be determined by geographical location was unacceptable. realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/03/… #CPAC2014
Dana Loesch (@DLoesch) March 08, 2014

Here’s what Carson told Glenn Beck last year, via RCP:

It depends on where you live. I think if you live in the midst of a lot of people, and I’m afraid that that semi-automatic weapon is going to fall into the hands of a crazy person, I would rather you not have it. If you live out in the country somewhere by yourself, I have no problem.

Carson offered more on his position a few months ago in an op-ed titled “Why did the founders give us the Second Amendment?”

And yes, one issue that is a CIVIL LIBERTY is big enough to cancel out a campaign.—
Dana Loesch (@DLoesch) March 08, 2014

@DLoesch One issue does not a Politician define!—
Michael R. Wimberly (@Michaelmrw) March 08, 2014

@Michaelmrw It isn't an "issue." It's a civil right.—
Dana Loesch (@DLoesch) March 08, 2014

Gun rights isn't an "issue." It's a freaking civil right.—
Dana Loesch (@DLoesch) March 08, 2014

@DLoesch You're right, however, I think he would make a good Surgeon Gen. or HHS Secretary. POTUS is out of the question, though! #CPAC2014
Ruben D. Sanchez Jr (@rdsanchezjr) March 08, 2014

@rdsanchezjr I wouldn't disagree there.—
Dana Loesch (@DLoesch) March 08, 2014

Again, judge for yourself. realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/03/…
Dana Loesch (@DLoesch) March 08, 2014

Always dislike when these politicos are lionized before wider audience learns ALL of their positions.—
Dana Loesch (@DLoesch) March 08, 2014

@DLoesch Give Carson a chance! He is SO right on everything else. Truly believe he could be the next Ronald Reagan. No litmus tests, please.—
Donna Coghlan (@donnac1188) March 08, 2014

@donnac1188 Again, it isn't a "litmus test" or an "issue." It is a civil right.—
Dana Loesch (@DLoesch) March 08, 2014

Any candidate or potential who thinks civil rights are conditional should be discounted from wider office realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/03/… #cpac2014
Dana Loesch (@DLoesch) March 08, 2014

These are things about which we should be fierce.—
Dana Loesch (@DLoesch) March 08, 2014



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I really don't want that particular attitude to be in the White House. I still like him, though. But not for President.
1 posted on 03/09/2014 4:29:49 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

Maybe he could be in a cabinet position in charge of dismantling Obamacare lol


2 posted on 03/09/2014 4:33:27 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (In America, we don't do pin pricks. But sometimes we elect them.)
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To: servo1969

That is disturbing, but I’d still love for him to be my senator.


3 posted on 03/09/2014 4:37:51 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: servo1969

Until Obama hit the proverbial fan, American Presidents used to campaign and say, “This is what I believe, but if am elected, I will follow the will of the people.” Most other presidents knew it was not their job to dictate policy, but to implement it as only one of the three branches of government. If Carson or someone like him were to run, and say that he would respect the will of the people, even with the second ammendment, this may allow voters like Dana to reconsider him.


4 posted on 03/09/2014 4:39:06 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: servo1969

I agree. I like Carson but the gun control issue is problematic. I still think he’s heads and tails above the so called establishment front runners Bush and Christie. I prefer Cruz and Paul to any of the others. I want someone that knows how to sell conservatism and liberty not some “manager” that wants to merely slow down the advance of the left. We need someone who will present a stark appealing contrast to the leftist/corporatist power structure. Reagan did that to a large extent. Right now the GOP counts on being the bland alternative to an out of control progressive agenda which is pathetic given the power of the ideas on which this country was founded. How in the world can we not win arguments against people that want to control every aspect of a person’s life. They want to control how many children you can have, they want to control how much energy you can use, how big your car can be, what kind of food you can eat, how you run your business, how and on what terms you can worship, what kind of speech is acceptable, and on and on. How is it that our so called leadership can not make the case against the control freak left?


5 posted on 03/09/2014 4:42:12 PM PDT by Maelstorm
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To: servo1969

Where does Carson stand exactly on questions like taxes, entitlements, defense, foreign affairs, etc., etc.


6 posted on 03/09/2014 4:45:52 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: servo1969
I loves me some Dana...

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7 posted on 03/09/2014 4:52:47 PM PDT by digger48
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To: servo1969

It’s a wrongheaded idea to think that such restrictions will do any good.

Nobody’s perfect, something will come out every candidate.

You’ll have to vote for an imperfect candidate if you vote.

I’ll worry about all that the night before election day. In the meantime I’ll keep track of my options.


8 posted on 03/09/2014 4:54:14 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn...)
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To: SaxxonWoods
You’ll have to vote for an imperfect candidate if you vote.

What part of "shall not be infringed" does he not understand. Fatally imperfect.

9 posted on 03/09/2014 4:58:29 PM PDT by Stentor (Maybe the Goldman Sachs thing is just a coincidence.)
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To: servo1969

Deal killer for sure.


10 posted on 03/09/2014 5:07:15 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: servo1969

Dr. Ben simply needs a little education on the subject of guns and the Second Amendment.

His attitude is the type that creates hell holes like Chicago and D.C., where only the criminals are armed.


11 posted on 03/09/2014 5:12:02 PM PDT by G Larry (There's the Beef!)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

.......love Carson but didn’t know he was queasy on gun control rights. So.....me too.


12 posted on 03/09/2014 5:12:13 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: TBP

I would support him for Mayor of Detroit. He’s already a hero there and would be powerless on the guns issue because of state supremacy. Plus at the rate locals are taking out the thugs in the city it might cause him to change his mind.


13 posted on 03/09/2014 5:13:17 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SaxxonWoods
You’ll have to vote for an imperfect candidate if you vote.

No doubt; something we all need to accept as reality.

I really wouldn't consider Carson as a serious presidential contender, regardless of his gun views. I say this as someone who respects him completely as the brilliant surgeon and scientist he is. I've personally known two families whose children received his care, and they rave about him. But not all conservatives -- perfect, imperfect, whatever -- are fit for public office. Certainly not the presidency. Carson, while an asset to conservatism in general, is not presidential material IMHO.

14 posted on 03/09/2014 5:14:19 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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To: lee martell

It isn’t about ‘reconsidering’ a good man. It is about tainting a good man to clear him out of the way of GOPe control. The Blaze will work to eliminate Mitt’s competition even as Glenn Beck claims he would not vote for Romney.


15 posted on 03/09/2014 5:17:36 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Cen-Tejas

I don’t get these people who don’t get the 2nd amendment. Too damned educated maybe.


16 posted on 03/09/2014 5:22:30 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: TBP

I love Dana - she is a St. Louis gal and one hell of a conservative. But as usual, the right throws the baby out with the bath water over one point. A big one yes, but still, just one point. Perhaps that is why we don’t win elections that matter.


17 posted on 03/09/2014 5:27:05 PM PDT by Cyclone59 (Where are we going, and what's with the handbasket?)
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To: servo1969
I still like him, though. But not for President.

Well, of course.

We don't need to latch onto every intelligent-sounding conservative who makes the news. Carson isn't a politician. Now, that's good -- very good -- in one respect, but a losing proposition for a presidential candidate.

18 posted on 03/09/2014 5:36:47 PM PDT by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: servo1969

Dr. Carson advocates intelligent discussions on important issues, discussions between the people and their leaders. Yet because he makes one remark about not wanting some nut case in the Big Apple to be sporting a machine gun he’s suddenly totally disqualified.

I’m 100% 2nd Amendment but remember how they crucified Gov. Perry on his debate performance and that too was a deal-killer. Even though it came out later that he was still on pain killers from his back surgery he was done.

Personally, I think we need to get all sides of the story before we disqualify possible candidates this go-round. Let’s hear the details of how Dr. Carson views this issue. Just because he’d rather the nut case not have a weapon doesn’t mean he’d favor gun control.

We knocked all our guys down last time one by one on some single statement or issue and were left with Romney. Time to really explore our candidates.


19 posted on 03/09/2014 5:37:47 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: TBP
I, too, love most of what I've heard Dr. Carson say but unlike you, I don't want him any where elected office where his statement or vote could be to remove or restrict the Second Amendment, or the First Amendment, the Fourth, Fifth, etc.

He has a truly great story, a wonderful role model not only for any black person or white coming from an underprivileged position!

That being said, I'm not sure that I'd be thrilled for him to be a cabinet secretary either but he'd make an awesome Surgeon General!

20 posted on 03/09/2014 5:38:15 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: servo1969

Gun rights which differ by zip code.

Apparently Carson may be a brain surgeon, but he is a complete moron when it comes to the 2A.

A deal killer for me. If you are willing to trample on the 2A, it will not be long before you trample on others.


21 posted on 03/09/2014 5:45:11 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: digger48

Now that’s a woman!


22 posted on 03/09/2014 5:47:18 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: servo1969

Carson is a very nice man. He lacks national experiece. Let him continue to be a voice for conservatism. Haven’t we had enough of amateurs? We need a strong leader, one who understands our rights, our Constitution and can fight face to face with the PTB. That would be Ted Cruz. This is not a time to play games. We are in deep trouble as a nation and as a people. We need a strong, unapologetic leader.


23 posted on 03/09/2014 6:01:26 PM PDT by stilloftyhenight (...staying home isn't an option.)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

....think your close in Carson’s case. To be where he is required 12 years, plus 4 years under-grad, plus 4 years med school, plus 4 years residency and I think there may have been another year or two in there for his specialty, brain surgery.

That’s lots and lots and lots of exposure to liberal mania in academia. I see this in my own soon to be son in law. He’s a non practicing lawyer out of UV and Georgetown. Gonna vote for Hillary he says! I just walk off. Notwithstanding that moronicism, I like him.


24 posted on 03/09/2014 6:21:29 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Given the last couple of weeks in Detroit, those are the last people who need to have their gun rights restricted.

Some of the guns used for defense have been the scary black ones.


25 posted on 03/09/2014 7:19:35 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: servo1969
It depends on where you live. I think if you live in the midst of a lot of people, and I’m afraid that that semi-automatic weapon is going to fall into the hands of a crazy person, I would rather you not have it.

So if we carry Dr. Carson's "It depends on where you live" argument to it's logical conclusion, does that mean that Rosa Parks should have been more sensitive to the feelings of the white people of Montgomery Alabama and simply taken her seat in the back of the bus? After all, she knew that some black people were prone to behave irresponsibly and that some were even crazy. Whites in Alabama were very sensitive to that sort of thing at the time.

Our second amendment rights are as important as Rosa Parks', or Dr. Carson's, 15th amendment rights. It doesn't make any difference where we live.

26 posted on 03/09/2014 8:53:44 PM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Explain again, why don't you need to fill out form 4473 to buy a pressure cooker?)
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To: Cen-Tejas

Don’t let him marry your little girl. Mine know exactly how I feel about that. Vote for hilldabeast? Are you kidding me? His judgement is for shit.


27 posted on 03/09/2014 9:38:42 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

...... A lawyer in a child suit maybe?


28 posted on 03/10/2014 7:53:39 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: servo1969

Your rights do not depend on your location.


29 posted on 03/10/2014 9:27:49 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Cen-Tejas

Bigtime. Tell her to find somebody that’s conservative because I’ll tell you it will be worse when grandkids show up on the scene.


30 posted on 03/10/2014 12:32:48 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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