Skip to comments.Cardinal Dolan says "Bravo!" (to Gay Football Player Michael Sam)
Posted on 03/09/2014 4:44:13 PM PDT by ClaytonP
"Who am I to judge?" makes a triumphant entry in the American subset of the College of Cardinals, in an interview granted to the highest-rated political debate program on US television, to be broadcast tomorrow:
Cardinal Timothy Dolan of New York praised University of Missouri football star Michael Sam for coming out as gay, saying he would not judge the athlete for his sexual orientation. "Good for him," Dolan said in an interview with NBC's "Meet the Press" airing Sunday."I would have no sense of judgment on him," Dolan continued. "God bless ya. I don't think, look, the same Bible that tells us, that teaches us well about the virtues of chastity and the virtue of fidelity and marriage also tells us not to judge people. So I would say, 'Bravo.'" [Source]
There is no such thing as moral depravity any more.
“Who am I to judge?”
If a Cardinal in the Catholic church doesn’t feel qualified to say what is sin,what is he doing in that position of authority?
My King grieves.
If he is good at football I don’t care but see it isn’t enough that he is good at football. He must be praised for his lifestyle as if that is something worth glorifying when it is not. Its not a matter of ‘judging’ to point out the flaw of homosexuality anymore than it is judging to point out the health dangers of smoking. I’ve worked with people who were gay. I’ve known people who have went from living a gay lifestyle to a heterosexual and back again and those that have moved to exclusively heterosexual and vice versa. Human beings are flawed, we have desires that make us want to do things that are not good for us, not smart, and depraved. My problem is that this “do not judge” crap is being translated into license and prideful sin which is entirely contrary to Christianity at its core.
Dolan is an utter disgrace.
Well, if this reasoning applies across the board, then there is no way to criticize any sinful behavior. Thus, there is no sinful behavior at all, because who is he to judge???
What am I missing here? If clergy aren’t able or willing to say anything about sin anymore, then where are we as a culture????
Or are we saying that homosexuality is special, and since homosexuality is special and fabulous, we won’t say anything about that sin????????
Is the Cardinal afraid of being called homophobic by homosexual activists?????
Exactly the point. If you have a position of leadership and purport to be a teacher and leader, making moral judgments is the job. This “Who am I to judge” business is just a politically correct way to avoid unpleasant duties and appear popular. Frankly id Cardinal Dolan and the Church leadership denies reality, refuse to purge homosexuals from the priesthood, then the vile molestation of young boys by depraved , decadent homosexual priests will continue. The Church and the faithful will suffer due to the cowardly behavior of these “leaders”.
Watch them fold like deck chairs
Cardinal Dolan just made a huge mistake!
The Bible says we are not to judge...OK fine let’s go there Cardinal Dolan.
Judging means to pass approval or disapproval, by saying “bravo,” you passed judgment.
Good job ...you just stepped into the temptation and snare.
Presumably one could look at the government forcing the Church to provide contraception and say ‘Who am I to judge?’
Sadly, too many of our bishops, archbishops and cardinals would rather be loved by the world than tell the truth.
Wow. Sounds like a pro-sodomy statement...from a "leader" of the Roman Catholic church.
"Don't fire til you see the whites of their eyes!"
"Remember the Alamo"
"Peace in our time"
"Who am I to judge?"
"What difference does it make at this point?"
Dolan.....the same guy who is “all in” for amnesty and opposed to the Second Amendment. Disgusting.
America demands Justice for the Fallen of Benghazi!
The Catholic priesthood is so intrenched in homosexuality, it is not surprising to read Dolan’s remark. This must be a calculated effort to condition the Catholic laity for the great coming out of the homo priests.
Matthew’s 23:27-28 is appropriate at this time:
27Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean. 28In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.”
Isn’t there enough evidence of Priests molesting alter boys?
Isn’t cheering “Bravo! “ being judgemental?
Dolan is a massive disappointment. And to think he is sitting in the chair of the late, great Cardinal O’Connor. Makes me sick to my stomach.
I think buffoon is the appropriate word for Dolan. Also...Democrat. He adores Cuomo and, bizarrely enough, he really seems to love De Blasio, the leftest of the left..
as a practicing Catholic i agree with his view not to judge Sam but Dolan then contradicts himself by saying “bravo”....isn’t that judging in a positive sense just as condemning him is judging in a negative sense????
Rorate Caeli is just doing Satan’s work for him.
“Bravo” Rorate Caeli!!! Good for you!
You like doing satan’s lifting and who am I to judge? That’s your choice, your free will given to you by God the Father, the one you choose to offend.
Myself, I will follow Jesus Christ, like Cardinal Dolan. Yoy can’t kill me so easy when I say “Bravo, Good for you!” though we disagree completely. Don’t live in fear like that football player, come out and feel the freedom to state your sinfulness and begin to see that you are more than a homosexual inclination. You are a child of God and deserve not just your free will, but all of his love - see the bible and Church on how to do that.
Huh, but the cardinal certainly judge divorced heterosexuals and non-catholic Christians!
Huh? I don’t like Rorate Caeli (gives traditionalists a bad name) but Dolan actually did say this and it was reported in the Post, the News and every other New York source.
What is there to say “bravo” about in this case? If the guy’s a good football player, that’s all that matters. But self-identifying as “gay” means that he believes his penis and where he likes to put it is the most important thing ini his life and supersedes all else. And the Cardinal thinks this is a good thing?
No, no one deserves God's love, as instead we are worthy of damnation, and the way God justifies the unGodly is by faith in Christ to save by His sinless shed blood and righteousness.
See the Bible (Rm. 3:10-5:1) and a real Bible church on that, which also teaches homosexual relations are sin.
What is wrong with Cardinal Dolan? It seems that almost every time that I see something about him he has said something stupid.
Alter boys? Is that some new Transformer line?
It is difficult to decide which admission this week is worst, Dolan above or Pope Francis’ admission of stealing a crucifix from a casket.
And the Bishops wonder why so many Catholics are confused?
I’m not a Catholic, so you will have to make do with my language or ignore it. I will be happy if you choose the later.
I actually do not see the crucifix thing as really stealing, or comparable to Bravo for a coming out, but weekly we see things, that, while not unique to Rome or worse than many other churches, yet examples the diversity of RC faith and often its liberal nature, contrary to the image avid RC supporters seek to paint of it. a couple more:
Cardinal OMalley, female Methodist pastor team up on ritual
Charismatic priests battle Catholic flight.
About 6 000 faithful are seated and thousands more are standing, all waiting for the master of ceremonies and face of the movement - 46-year-old rock star Catholic priest Marcelo Rossi. - http://www.news24.com/World/News/Charismatic-priests-battle-Catholic-flight-20130605
Archbishop Timothy Dolan] also does not outright deny the sacrament to dissenting Catholic lawmakers, yet he is seen as an outspoken defender of church orthodoxy in a style favored by many theological conservatives. — from the thread US bishops elect NYC archbishop as head in upset (Catholic bloggers blamed) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2711746/posts?page=289#289
Cardinal Dolan has betrayed his flock.
Jesus was very specific about the need to stop sinning in order to enter the Kingdom of Heaven.
The difference between judging and making a value judgment should be understood by the good Cardinal. He should teach it. But apparently not.
If there is no sin, then there must be no reward for a life of faith and virtue.
Moral relativism ... from the church? They did not learn that from Jesus or the Apostles.
EWTN is currently running video programs with Cardinal Dolan for Lent. Catholics may want to consider contacting EWTN (website "http://www.ewtn.com/"), and strongly urging them to remove those video programs from their lineup.
My “gadar” pegs into the red whenever I see a picture of Dolan.
This Cardinal is doing no favors for Catholics.
The same bible also tells us that homosexuals are going to be destroyed by God Himself.
This is not ABOUT liking or not liking the post, hence passing “judgement”. Our Lord compels us to discern the spirits, to ‘test’ these things to see whether they are from God, or if they are of the Devil. If we do not acknowledge sin when we see it, then there is nothing stopping God from destroying us either, as He will judge us as an accessory to evil. Doesn’t matter who you are.
Then again, why we continue to be surprised by the Catholic church is beyond me, as history has allowed us to be enlightened by it’s atrocities and rebellion against God’s Laws.
“Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter.” Isaiah 5:20
“He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the LORD”. Proverbs 17:15.
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