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Game Changer: It Will Be Shocking for the Average American: “Your Cost of Living Will Quadruple”
SHTF Plan ^ | 3/9/14 | Mac Slavo

Posted on 03/09/2014 4:46:47 PM PDT by Kartographer

It’s no secret that the U.S. government is in serious fiscal trouble. So much so that our Treasury Secretary recently noted that should the debt ceiling fail to be increased, the fall-out would be “catastrophic” and last for generations.

Given that sobering report, consider that everything in America, from food to fuel, is subsidized in one way or another. Those subsidies are being paid with ever-increasing debt. It is inevitable that at some point the world’s reserve currency, the US dollar, will be wiped out. The trigger for such an event is irrelevant. What is relevant, is how average Americans will be affected when that day comes.

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I'll just put it on my credit card.
1 posted on 03/09/2014 4:46:47 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


2 posted on 03/09/2014 4:47:21 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

EBT All The Way, Baby!


3 posted on 03/09/2014 4:51:12 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Kartographer

Time to stock up on Ramen soup and vienna sausages.


4 posted on 03/09/2014 4:51:42 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: TADSLOS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wPi7FE3vFE


5 posted on 03/09/2014 4:53:24 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

$17 trillion is only $1.3 trillion in 1929 dollars.

(The national debt was $17 Billion in 1929 or 75 times less in same dollars.)


6 posted on 03/09/2014 4:59:02 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (HELL, NO! BE UNGOVERNABLE! --- ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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To: Farmer Dean
I don't have over 400 seedlings waiting for the last freeze date so that I can eat ramen noodles.

I don't care if the SHTF. I'm going to eat good food, not canned shlock.

/johnny

7 posted on 03/09/2014 4:59:17 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer

No, you won’t.

I’ll be using your credit card at that point.


8 posted on 03/09/2014 5:00:58 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Kartographer

Well, at 40-something I am thankful that I had the chance to live in and enjoy a period of history that will be known as “America before the democrats/liberals/progressive/****les Detroited it”.


9 posted on 03/09/2014 5:01:46 PM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: Kartographer
So much so that our Treasury Secretary recently noted that should the debt ceiling fail to be increased, the fall-out would be “catastrophic” and last for generations.

And if the debt ceiling is increased, eventually the fallout will be "catastrophic" and last for generations.

No matter what any person or persons do or don't do, there is "much unpleasantness" that lies ahead.

10 posted on 03/09/2014 5:03:26 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Jonty30
"No, you won’t.

I’ll be using your credit card at that point."


Raise you too: 'I'll be using the proceeds from your kidneys."
11 posted on 03/09/2014 5:04:37 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Farmer Dean
"Time to stock up on Ramen soup and vienna sausages."

That comment along with your username got a good laugh here. ;-) With so much salt in it, that junk would probably put some weight on post-TEOTWAWKI, suburban livestock posthaste (suburban livestock: pets).


12 posted on 03/09/2014 5:07:24 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: LostInBayport

Hey don’t be getting down on Detroit!
At least the sheriff there is now telling the citizens to arm themselves.


13 posted on 03/09/2014 5:07:55 PM PDT by Bluebeard16
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To: Kartographer

Not that I want to be contrarian, however, we have just discovered thru fracking, huge reserves of oil and natural gas. We are not about to go broke. That said this continued spending is irresponsible at best. The interest on our debt could easily consume all the oil reserves and then some if we were to cease being the reserve currency.


14 posted on 03/09/2014 5:10:31 PM PDT by mistfree (Their & There, they're not the same)
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To: Kartographer

If a man had a gold coin and had no water and I had a glass of water - which is more valuable?

If a man had a house and had no water and I had a glass of water - which is more valuable?

You can say that about a bowl of oatmeal or a Ramen noodle cup - if someone needs food, either of those lowly items are worth more than gold or houses.


15 posted on 03/09/2014 5:12:23 PM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Kartographer

Its already gone up quite a bit. Even my 21 yr old son has noticed the price of milk. $4.59 a gallon yesterday


16 posted on 03/09/2014 5:12:27 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: mistfree
"Not that I want to be contrarian"

Are you sure that you are a FReeper??
17 posted on 03/09/2014 5:13:24 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: JRandomFreeper

Most ramien noodles are crap. We buy ours at a korean store and they are pretty good. We have several boxes of them but tend to go through them fairly quickly.


18 posted on 03/09/2014 5:13:51 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Kartographer
... consider that everything in America, from food to fuel, is subsidized in one way or another.

These "subsidies" consist largely of "tax breaks". So if the federal and state governments were to collapse, it's not as though these enterprises would lose their subsidy!

19 posted on 03/09/2014 5:14:20 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Marcella

Amen!


20 posted on 03/09/2014 5:14:45 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: JRandomFreeper
I'm going to eat good food, not canned shlock.

I had home canned pork loin and Bush's beans for dinner. I'm going to call it canned shlock. (;>

21 posted on 03/09/2014 5:23:05 PM PDT by Stentor (Maybe the Goldman Sachs thing is just a coincidence.)
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To: Kartographer; Jonty30
"Raise you too: 'I'll be using the proceeds from your kidneys.'

Kidney in a Cooler (lyrics and Youtube)
Keller Williams

http://www.lyricsfreak.com/k/keller+williams/kidney+in+a+cooler_20227207.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx2lCC0vqq8


22 posted on 03/09/2014 5:23:28 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Kartographer

And many sheeple will demand a government solution


23 posted on 03/09/2014 5:32:20 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: driftdiver

Ramyun in Korean I think


24 posted on 03/09/2014 5:33:51 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL

Post #5 this thread.


25 posted on 03/09/2014 5:34:28 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Marcella
You can say that about a bowl of oatmeal or a Ramen noodle cup - if someone needs food, either of those lowly items are worth more than gold or houses.

"What greater stupidity can be imagined than that of calling jewels, silver, and gold "precious," and earth and soil "base"?"

- Galileo, Dialogues Concerning the Two Chief World Systems

26 posted on 03/09/2014 5:37:02 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Kartographer

The whole frigging world is buried in debt. After the SHTF, I hope you can find some fool willing to accept your credit or debit card for real goods and services.

BTW, does the IRS accept credit cards?


27 posted on 03/09/2014 5:37:21 PM PDT by Texicanus (Texas, it's a whole 'nother country.)
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To: GeronL

For about $15 I get 20 meals that have a good shelf life, taste good and are filling. Not all that well balanced but as one meal a day its an easy choice.


28 posted on 03/09/2014 5:38:01 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Bluebeard16

Point taken.


29 posted on 03/09/2014 5:39:50 PM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I’ve been buying seeds. I know from experience that they last for years.


30 posted on 03/09/2014 5:41:24 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: driftdiver

That sounds good. I found some bagged cereal for a buck the other day


31 posted on 03/09/2014 5:41:29 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: mistfree
"Not that I want to be contrarian, however, we have just discovered thru fracking, huge reserves of oil and natural gas."

Fracking is great, but profit-wise, fracking plays don't last long. Petroleum and gas derivatives are also being exported. Another truth that we're distracted from is that of hundreds of millions of new drivers in developing countries over the years to come, more foreign manufacturing increases, more foreign trade going around us between pairs of foreign countries, the decline of the dollar reserve status, etc.

As for energy exports saving the whole economy, see impoverished, developing countries that run mainly on energy and agriculture exports without much domestic manufacturing (also see the recent U.S. propane debacle). I agree with you, though, on the excesses of big government spending (especially frivolous federal funding to locales) and don't see the world ending soon. But we're looking at much poorer times ahead, more of the middle class being laid off, etc.

Shale, the Last Oil and Gas Train: Interview With Arthur Berman
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3130862/posts


32 posted on 03/09/2014 5:42:19 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Kartographer

Someone gotta pay for my. 32 kids!!


33 posted on 03/09/2014 5:44:26 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Kartographer
"everything in America, from food to fuel, is subsidized in one way or another. Those subsidies are being paid with ever-increasing debt."

A million dollars that isn't borrowed by the government and paid into welfare is a million dollars that media and businesses don't get their share of.
This is why the Tea Party is hated by the media and opposed by many businesses.
It's a command economy. The command is: "Don't worry!"

34 posted on 03/09/2014 5:44:47 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Marcella

TP, my FRiend, TP...

My gold.


35 posted on 03/09/2014 5:45:07 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: Marcella

With that gold piece, people can be hired who will kill for you. Just saying.


36 posted on 03/09/2014 5:52:29 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Kartographer
I'm not worried. In case of trouble my government is gonna send me to camp! Yeah, camp - bonfire singalongs, toasted marshmallows, guys in towers making sure we're all OK...

I love camp.

37 posted on 03/09/2014 5:53:47 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: trisham
There is a whole lot more to producing food than having seeds. Without the knowledge and practiced skills, most people that are storing seeds will starve.

Even skilled gardeners have bad years. I had no jalapeño peppers to can in 2013. That's after canning over 20 pints in 2012.

/johnny

38 posted on 03/09/2014 5:57:32 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Billthedrill
LOL! Don't forget crafts...

/johnny

39 posted on 03/09/2014 5:58:58 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Billthedrill

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USvMWm-ZqvQ


40 posted on 03/09/2014 6:02:41 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: JRandomFreeper

Oh, yeah! And then Officer Friendly is gonna sit down with me and say, “Hey, Bill, isn’t this great? Here’s a piece of paper and a pen so you can write down the names and addresses of all your friends so we can invite them too!” Oh, man, you guys are gonna be so impressed...


41 posted on 03/09/2014 6:02:56 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Kartographer

interesting isn’t it, that the Fed has almost the same amounts in assists that the USA has in debts? (~17T Trillion)


42 posted on 03/09/2014 6:04:37 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: Red in Blue PA

With that gold piece, people can be hired who will kill for you. Just saying.

If the government doesn’t call in the gold and make it illegal to own or as a medium of exchange. You’ll probably get 15 cents in new script for your ounce of gold. Try spending that all in one place.

OTH, they got to find you and your gold if you don’t comply.


43 posted on 03/09/2014 6:05:20 PM PDT by Texicanus (Texas, it's a whole 'nother country.)
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To: logi_cal869
“TP, my FRiend, TP...My gold.”

Someone always brings up toilet paper and I get to write my solution for having lots of wet cloth like cleaner that cleans the bottom better than toilet paper, is flushable if you still have working plumbing, and is cheaper if you get Walmart brand Wet Wipes, and takes up little room for storage for four people for a year - A WHOLE YEAR.

I have two boxes with these cleaner packages stored inside and the storage boxes are not large. I'm trying to remember, but I think the total cost was something like $40. Toilet paper takes up a huge amount of room to store for that many people and I don't have that much room. Now, I don't need all that room - just the two boxes that are easy to store.

You are right that toilet paper/wet wipes will be valuable.

44 posted on 03/09/2014 6:11:55 PM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Billthedrill

I’m not worried. In case of trouble my government is gonna send me to camp! Yeah, camp - bonfire singalongs, toasted marshmallows, guys in towers making sure we’re all OK...

And warm showers after a fun-filled day of hiking through the woods.


45 posted on 03/09/2014 6:12:35 PM PDT by Texicanus (Texas, it's a whole 'nother country.)
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To: Kartographer
Given that sobering report, consider that everything in America, from food to fuel, is subsidized in one way or another. Those subsidies are being paid with ever-increasing debt.

A list of these subsidies would be nice, to prove the author isn't just some idiot hawking gold.

food will triple… heat, electricity, everything subsidized by the government will triple overnight…

Which of these does the government pick up 67% of the cost?

Given that we are now in more debt as a nation and individuals than ever before,

Individuals have been reducing debt.

46 posted on 03/09/2014 6:13:41 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Red in Blue PA; Kartographer

“With that gold piece, people can be hired who will kill for you. Just saying.”

No, the gold won’t water or feed them so they have no use for it. They will kill for you if you can give them water or food. I don’t plan to have a gang of killers, however.


47 posted on 03/09/2014 6:15:04 PM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: BereanBrain

The Fed only has $4.2 trillion.


48 posted on 03/09/2014 6:17:36 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Farmer Dean
Time to stock up on Ramen soup and vienna sausages.

Have a good time in Diarrhea Land!

49 posted on 03/09/2014 6:18:38 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Truth sounds like hate...to those who hate truth.)
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To: TADSLOS

EBT All The Way, Baby!
-
That’s what porky used to say: “EBT, EBT, That’s All Folks!”

Sorry, just couldn’t resist...


50 posted on 03/09/2014 6:21:54 PM PDT by Texicanus (Texas, it's a whole 'nother country.)
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