Skip to comments.UT: Legislature says: Open Carry is not Disorderly Conduct
Posted on 03/14/2014 9:20:20 PM PDT by marktwain
66.0409 (6) Unless other facts and circumstances that indicate a criminal or malicious intent on the part of the person apply, no person may be in violation of, or be charged with a violation of, an ordinance of a political subdivision relating to disorderly conduct or other inappropriate behavior for loading, carrying, or going armed with a firearm, without regard to whether the firearm is loaded or is concealed or openly carried. Any ordinance in violation of this subsection does not apply
The reform is now headed to Governor Gary Herbert's desk. Governor Herbert vetoed a constitutional carry bill in September of 2013. Governor Herbert has 10 days, not counting the day he receives the bill or Sundays, to sign or veto the bill. If he does not veto it during that period, it becomes law. If the legislature adjourns before the law is signed, and it is not vetoed, it becomes law 20 days after adjournment.
(3) The mere carrying or possession of a holstered or encased firearm, whether visible
or concealed, without additional behavior or circumstances that would cause a reasonable
person to believe the holstered or encased firearm was carried or possessed S. [
criminal intent, does not constitute a violation of this section. S. [
For purposes of this section, the
belief of a reasonable person may not be based on a mistake of law.
] .S Nothing in this Subsection
(3) may limit or prohibit a law enforcement officer from approaching or engaging any person in
a voluntary conversation.
I just can’t think of a useful comment or a good snark.
How about: I hope Herbert doesn’t flub this like he did constitutional carry.
This is even a question?
“Disorderly Conduct” has been used as a way to chill the exercise of second amendment rights for at least 50 years that I know of.
It has become well known in the last decade.
Who are they kidding? I’ve had cops tell me on FR DisCon applies to anything you do that the cops don’t like when they want to just shut you up. Failure to grovel? Disorderly Conduct. Next stop, fingerprints and DNA sample. You are no longer innocent, you are in the system. You are now officially a criminal in the criminal system. Years from now, when you are a good father or grandfather, you suddenly become a suspect in a crime you never heard of. All because of a time pne bully cop decided, all on his own, you failed to show him proper “respect.”
That’s how they roll. The intent is to make every single “little person” into a criminal they have a record of.
It’s used as a method to chill the exercise of every right known to man. They’re cops, its what they do. It’s their job, and they love it.
Good. I nope this spreads to other States.
Mine would be nice. Open carry is much more comfortable...
Nope should have been hope.
My iPad hates me sometimes...
“Mine would be nice. Open carry is much more comfortable..”
So why not start? Looks like MN is a OC with a license state. Opencarry.org has a forum on MN.
10 years ago, OC was relatively unusual in VA. It’s getting more common with time.
Actually. I have. Just in areas where I know local law enforcement is ok with it and won’t harass you for it.
Would like to hit an Open Carry picnic this summer if I can. I know there was a local group that had their event in a popular downtown park (Como Zoo in St. Paul).
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