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Malaysia plane pilots, passengers back under scrutiny
Yahooo ^ | 3-15-14 | Giles Hewitt

Posted on 03/15/2014 2:41:13 PM PDT by dynachrome

The son of a high-ranking official in the public works department of a Malaysian state, Fariq joined Malaysia Airlines when he was 20.

He is a mild-mannered "good boy" who regularly visited his neighbourhood mosque outside Kuala Lumpur, said the mosque's imam, or spiritual leader.

The far more seasoned Zaharie joined MAS in 1981 and had logged 18,365 hours of flying time.

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And from Washington Post:

"The 27-year-old co-pilot Fariq Abdul Hamid was religious

What religion? Gee, I wonder...

1 posted on 03/15/2014 2:41:13 PM PDT by dynachrome
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To: dynachrome

Isn’t this the one with the flight simulator in his home? Yee-aahh. Gee what could be going on?


2 posted on 03/15/2014 2:44:44 PM PDT by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: dynachrome

one wonders how well he knew these two?

“Interpol had identified the two men as Iranians: Seyed Mohammed Reza Delavar, who used a stolen Italian passport, and Pouria Nourmohammadi, who used an Austrian one.”

chances of the two iranians being jihadists..... better than fifty percent

thats just an educated hunch


3 posted on 03/15/2014 2:46:51 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Jesus came to Save not Entertain / Ground John Kerry Now!)
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To: dynachrome

“good boy” who regularly visited his neighbourhood mosque...”

Hmmm....


4 posted on 03/15/2014 2:46:55 PM PDT by FAA
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To: dynachrome

27 years old. He would have been 14 when 9/11 occurred. Perfect recruit for terrorists. Train him to be a pilot and then one day say it’s time. Probably had several hundred trained and he was the one that got through it all.


5 posted on 03/15/2014 2:48:06 PM PDT by Rokurota
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To: dynachrome

Like the Boston Marathon bomber, young Muslim men can become radicalized in a short amount of time.


6 posted on 03/15/2014 2:48:15 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: dynachrome

His family has called him a “Good Muslim” who was recently engaged..gee, a “Good Muslim” who would let young women into the cockpit and who they refer to as “A pervert” gee, Ive heard of those kind of Muslims before, the ones who talk about being clean and pure yet go to strip clubs and get hookers every night


7 posted on 03/15/2014 2:48:45 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: MeshugeMikey

The imam is named Ahmad Sharafi Ali Asrah.* I’d like to know more about his mosque, but info is scarce.

* http://abcnews.go.com/International/missing-malaysian-airlines-flight-now/story?id=22924842


8 posted on 03/15/2014 2:57:23 PM PDT by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: Ray76

“Isn’t this the one with the flight simulator in his home?”

A friend has flight simulator software on his computer. He’s been crashing onto carrier decks for 10 years! We’re gonna throw a party when he finally lands one!


9 posted on 03/15/2014 3:02:23 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: dynachrome

Sumpin’s up!


10 posted on 03/15/2014 3:04:01 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
Ive heard of those kind of Muslims before, the ones who talk about being clean and pure yet go to strip clubs and get hookers every night

But the women who work there are not muslims, so it's not a sin.

11 posted on 03/15/2014 3:13:00 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: MeshugeMikey

I would keep checking on the Iranians, but so far their story checks out. Family and friends waiting in Europe for them to join them, seem to be dissidents leaving for a better life. I would check the pilot mostly, the one with great knowledge of the working of the 777 and the simulator at home. With a colleague among the passengers, they could subdue the copilot and disable the communications without the passengers knowing. The copilot apparently had a habit of letting passengers into the cockpit, so it would not be unusual to have someone allowed in. Otherwise, the crew would be alerted. Once communications were disabled, they could lock the cockpit door, give some BS announcement over the intercom, and start flying. The questions are where and why.


12 posted on 03/15/2014 3:13:41 PM PDT by Defiant (Let the Tea Party win, and we will declare peace on the American people and go home.)
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To: dynachrome

“...regularly visited his neighbourhood mosque outside Kuala Lumpur”

All you really need to know about him!


13 posted on 03/15/2014 3:15:21 PM PDT by smalltownslick
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To: dynachrome

“He is a mild-mannered “good boy”

“Good boy” who on previous flights invited girls into the cockpit. Don’t think too many muslims would consider that a “good boy.”


14 posted on 03/15/2014 3:18:09 PM PDT by smalltownslick
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To: martin_fierro

Could be considered “Industrial Strength Humor”


15 posted on 03/15/2014 3:21:49 PM PDT by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

When a muslim man forces himself on an infidel girl, it’s HER fault. From date-rape to brutal forced rape, it’s HER fault. She was “uncovered meat,” and what is a man expected to do? She should have been covered, or at home. If not, she’s a whore, and the man is blameless.


16 posted on 03/15/2014 3:29:29 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: dynachrome

What about the 13 employees from China for Freescale and the 7 from Malaysia? They were in the business of Battlefield communications, avionics, HF L and S band radar, Missile guidance electronic warfare identification friend or foe. Just maybe it is a joint venture between the Co-Pilot and additional number of the Engineers from Malayasia.

Going to monthlong conferences in China. Some of the technology on the plane and utilized.


17 posted on 03/15/2014 3:31:58 PM PDT by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: Defiant
Once communications were disabled, they could lock the cockpit door, give some BS announcement over the intercom, and start flying.

It was well after midnight. No need for announcements. The passengers would be asleep. It would have taken an astronomer, or a frequent flier, to notice that the Moon is not in the right position.

18 posted on 03/15/2014 3:38:25 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: hondact200

Reports coming out of China that Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah’s wife and three children had moved out of the family home the day before flight MH370 disappeared.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/missing-malaysia-airlines-plane-homes-3245935


19 posted on 03/15/2014 3:38:51 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Travis McGee

It’s HER fault and she needs to be stoned to death.


20 posted on 03/15/2014 3:41:36 PM PDT by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: RummyChick

21 posted on 03/15/2014 3:42:32 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: hondact200

The company is owned by The Carlyle Group and Blackstone


22 posted on 03/15/2014 3:44:18 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

“Reports coming out of China that Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah’s wife and three children had moved out of the family home the day before flight MH370 disappeared.”

Bingo


23 posted on 03/15/2014 3:52:46 PM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: dynachrome
Hasn't anybody considered the possibility of this:

William Shatner and the Gremlin in "Nightmare At 20,000 Feet" [Twilight Zone]

24 posted on 03/15/2014 3:53:47 PM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: Greysard

The reason I mention announcements was that they had to make a sharp turn that might get noticed, and because by 5am or so it would start getting light out but no China in sight, just Ocean. At some point, you’d have to say something. Question: How secure is the door to the cockpit? If the passengers ever got wind of the plot, is there a way to break in, like the 9/11 passengers did?


25 posted on 03/15/2014 4:10:48 PM PDT by Defiant (Let the Tea Party win, and we will declare peace on the American people and go home.)
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To: Travis McGee

c 19


26 posted on 03/15/2014 4:12:14 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: hondact200

This is starting to sound like a Clive Cussler novel.


27 posted on 03/15/2014 4:22:22 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie ("Demons run when a good man goes to war.")
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To: RummyChick; Black Agnes; maggief; LucyT; hoosiermama; null and void

Thanks for the find RummyChick!

Pinging all y’all to this post with link by RummyChick!


28 posted on 03/15/2014 4:25:00 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: crosslink

Ping to #19


29 posted on 03/15/2014 4:27:13 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: RummyChick; LucyT; hoosiermama; WildHighlander57; crosslink; null and void

BREAKING

Reports coming out of China that Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah’s wife and three children had moved out of the family home the day before flight MH370 disappeared.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/missing-malaysia-airlines-plane-live-3245935#ixzz2w4tfQT89


30 posted on 03/15/2014 4:42:35 PM PDT by maggief
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To: Defiant
I would keep checking on the Iranians, but so far their story checks out.

Suspect the two Iranians traveling with stolen passports are homosexuals seeking asylum from any number of muslim punishments, including execution.

31 posted on 03/15/2014 4:43:08 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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To: Defiant
The reason I mention announcements was that they had to make a sharp turn that might get noticed

I didn't think that they needed a sharp turn. Besides, a coordinated turn in an airplane (anyone can do it correctly with the autopilot's knob) does not shift your weight left or right, as it happens in cars. The passengers would only feel a slight increase in gravity, but that is a very small change, and it's night... Observation through the windows would be the only way to figure out the direction; another method would be to use a magnetic compass that many modern gizmos have (my Samsung tablet has one.)

by 5am or so it would start getting light out but no China in sight, just Ocean. At some point, you’d have to say something.

A hijacker would have an answer to that way before he begins his act.

How secure is the door to the cockpit? If the passengers ever got wind of the plot, is there a way to break in, like the 9/11 passengers did?

Flip the airplane a few times and there won't be anyone left to attack the door. But the question is larger than that, and it directly relates to the endgame. If the passengers are an unwanted burden (such as when only the airplane is needed) then none of them will be allowed to wake up in the morning.

32 posted on 03/15/2014 4:49:37 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: CaptainK
Like the Boston Marathon bomber, young Muslim men can become radicalized in a short amount of time.

Obama was.

33 posted on 03/15/2014 5:00:43 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

for a second I thought you were referring to Juan “crash” McCain


34 posted on 03/15/2014 5:46:59 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: maggief; crosslink; SatinDoll; Old Sarge; shibumi; Michael Barnes; Mossad1967; brucecw; ...
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Reports coming out of China that Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah’s wife and three children had moved out of the family home the day before flight MH370 disappeared.

Check out # 30.

Thanks, Maggie.

35 posted on 03/15/2014 5:52:52 PM PDT by LucyT (If you're NOT paranoid, you don't know what's going on.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
Ive heard of those kind of Muslims before, the ones who talk about being clean and pure yet go to strip clubs and get hookers every night

Yup. Some of them flew into New York one sunny September morning, as I recall.

36 posted on 03/15/2014 6:08:49 PM PDT by glock rocks (If you like your health plan, you're a racist !)
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To: LucyT
Technical question for one more skilled in the art than I:

Do the emergency oxygen masks drop with a gradual loss of cabin pressure or only, as the safety briefing says, a sudden drop in cabin pressure?

37 posted on 03/15/2014 6:13:54 PM PDT by null and void ( Obama is Law-Less because Republican "leaders" are BALL-LESS!!)
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To: maggief

Scapegoats


38 posted on 03/15/2014 6:16:11 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: dynachrome

“He is a mild-mannered “good boy” who regularly visited his neighbourhood mosque....”

.
Search no more, we got the culprit.


39 posted on 03/15/2014 6:23:17 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Travis McGee

Muslim man is powerless; cannot resist.


40 posted on 03/15/2014 6:27:52 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: null and void; toldyou
Having experienced neither, I don't know. Good question, though.

I have experienced a sudden drop in altitude and would have bumped my head on the overhead bin if I hadn't had the safety belt on.

41 posted on 03/15/2014 6:30:02 PM PDT by LucyT (If you're NOT paranoid, you don't know what's going on.)
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To: null and void
In one case, in 2000, a Boeing 737-800 suffered a slow depressurization, coupled with the failure of the cabin altitude warning system. The depressurization was only discovered by the crew due to the automatic deployment of the passenger oxygen masks; this gave them time to respond appropriately.[1]
42 posted on 03/15/2014 6:30:03 PM PDT by Myrddin
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Thanks! (Another beautiful theory ruined by ugly facts!)
43 posted on 03/15/2014 6:39:24 PM PDT by null and void ( Obama is Law-Less because Republican "leaders" are BALL-LESS!!)
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To: Vendome

You shouldn’t refer to a muslim’s wife as a goat, those are only for use as girlfriends...


44 posted on 03/15/2014 6:40:37 PM PDT by null and void ( Obama is Law-Less because Republican "leaders" are BALL-LESS!!)
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To: RummyChick

That’s very interesting. It’s similar to the story I heard Michael Medved tell on his radio show in which his brother, who was living in NYC at the time, had Arab Muzzie next door neighbors. Mike’s brother’s children played with the Arab children that belonged to the next door neighbors.

Those Muzzie children mentioned to his brother’s children that the WTC buildings were going to blow up the next day. Mike’s brother and his wife didn’t think anything of it when they heard this from their children. The next day they saw what happened and called the authorities. When the authorities went to visit the neighbor’s place they had moved and had taken everything with them overseas.


45 posted on 03/15/2014 6:46:13 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: null and void

My bad.

My apologies to any goats I may have offended...


46 posted on 03/15/2014 6:50:05 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Defiant

Those questions seem as though we’ve been asking them for weeks by now.

Resolution I want some dang resolution...


47 posted on 03/15/2014 7:00:07 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Jesus came to Save not Entertain / Ground John Kerry Now!)
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To: Ray76

The imam’s name bring up a lot of references but all that I’ve yet found on a dozen pages, have been abut the missing plane and it’s pilot.


48 posted on 03/15/2014 7:05:14 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Jesus came to Save not Entertain / Ground John Kerry Now!)
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To: maggief
MH370 flew to 45,000ft - almost 2,000ft above what Boeing says is its maximum recommended height - before descending to 23,000ft.

I suspect the 45,000 ft climb was to kill passengers after depressurizing...

49 posted on 03/15/2014 7:48:37 PM PDT by GOPJ (From a bellwether to an "oh-whateverrrr" in less than a single news cycle. -freeper Fightin Whitey)
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To: null and void

At about 14,000 feet, regardless.


50 posted on 03/15/2014 8:07:13 PM PDT by zipper ("The Second Amendment IS my carry permit!" -- Ted Nugent)
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