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Russia Should Buy Crimea
Lawrence Journal World ^ | 3/15/14 | Reasonmclucus

Posted on 03/15/2014 5:12:36 PM PDT by kathsua

The best way to resolve the situation in Crimea in the event the residents want to separate from the Ukraine would be for Russia to purchase the territory. Russia could then allow the Crimeans to decide what status they wanted such as becoming an independent state or joining the other ethnic Russians in the Russian Federation.

I was going to include this suggestion in a post dealing with the situation in general but decided the proposal would be more likely to be noticed if suggested in a separate post. I believe the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo which ended the war between the United States and Mexico in 1848 suggests a resolution of the conflict over control of Crimea.

A dispute over whether an area (occupied by persons who identified with the United States) which is now the State of Texas was independent sparked a short war between the United States and Mexico. The United States easily won the war but then agreed to purchase another part of Mexico that was attracting settlers who identified with the United States. The purchase eliminated the potential for a future conflict between residents of that area and the Mexican government

Crimea is something of value so it would be fair for The Ukraine to receive compensation for its loss. The payment for Crimea could be thought of as compensation for money the national government of The Ukraine has spent on the region for such expenditures as government buildings or infrastructure items like roads. The payment would replace tax money that would no longer be collected from Crimea.

Payment wouldn't need to take the form of money. Russia has ample energy resources and The Ukraine already obtains energy from Russia. Thus, natural gas or some other fuel might be used as compensation. The Ukrainian government has had a policy of trying to keep energy costs down for its citizens. Russia might significantly reduce what it charges for natural gas for the next 10 - 20 years with an implication that the discount would be passed along to individuals. Russia might also offer to compensate anyone wishing to move from Crimea to the Ukraine or The Ukraine to Crimea.

Ukrainian officials need to recognize the potential costs of trying to force Russian Crimeans to stay in a country where they don't feel they belong can lead to civil conflict including terrorist bombings. The conflicts between Catholics and Protestants in Northern Ireland and the actions of the Basque separatists in Spain demonstrate what can happen. If some Ukrainians decided to start a Balkans style ethnic cleansing campaign, Russia would feel compelled to invade.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: crimea; purchase; russia; ukraine
How many conservatives realize that this situation occurred after the Ukrainian president refused to allow the European Union to impose its rules on the Ukraine. A mob friendly to the EU forced the president out so the EU could take away the rights of Ukrainians to make their own laws.
1 posted on 03/15/2014 5:12:36 PM PDT by kathsua
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To: kathsua

You forgot to mention George Soros. And Nazis. Never forget to mention the Nazis. And post a photo of a shirtless Putin, as a bonus.


2 posted on 03/15/2014 5:14:09 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: kathsua

For posting the truth you will now be subjected to ridicule and efforts to squelch your voice. It is standard op for the globalists’ thuggery who are paid to work the Internet daily. The banking oligarchs who actually run the world are sometimes reduced to having to expose themselves as in the Ukraine.


3 posted on 03/15/2014 5:20:02 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN

But the banking oligarchs are Joos! How can a globalist be a Nazi and pro-Semite at once?


4 posted on 03/15/2014 5:22:30 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: kathsua
A mob friendly to the EU forced the president out so the EU could take away the rights of Ukrainians to make their own laws.

It is better that Soviets take away your rights, eh comrade?

5 posted on 03/15/2014 5:23:00 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

C’mon . . . Vladimir Putin, Man of the People and Hero of the Soviet Union, only has the best interests of those poor Ukrainian peasants at heart.


6 posted on 03/15/2014 5:24:48 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: MHGinTN
I hope the US-EU-NATO takes Putin seriously...he's moving more and more Artillery etc. rapidly over these past couple days especially...

Russian armor on move in Crimea, note bat marking on side of vehicle.. Intel unit? From today


7 posted on 03/15/2014 5:25:49 PM PDT by caww
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To: kathsua

Yeah, far better for the Ukrainians to live under an authoritarian dictator whose opponents have the strangest habit of turning up dead.

Putin is a ruthless autocrat; and if anyone seriously believes that Merkel is the same as Putin, or Francois Hollande is the same as Putin, they need their head examined.

If you want to find out Russia’s long-term strategy, read “The Foundations of Geopolitics” by Aleksander Dugin.

Here’s a pretty good summary of it here: http://www.wilsoncenter.org/sites/default/files/OP294.pdf


8 posted on 03/15/2014 5:29:40 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: caww

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b5/Lemberg280443.jpg

WW2 Ukrane


9 posted on 03/15/2014 5:31:43 PM PDT by Bogie
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To: Bogie

Lemberg was the Polish city of Lwow, before the war.


10 posted on 03/15/2014 5:34:45 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

"Why do people misunderstand me? Look,
I love puppies!"


11 posted on 03/15/2014 5:35:32 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: kathsua

why buy when you can just take it?

either way it’d be a forced sale, an offer they couldn’t refuse. or a kelo decision kind of sale, eminent domain....


12 posted on 03/15/2014 5:39:03 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

putin - communist czar.


13 posted on 03/15/2014 5:40:01 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: dfwgator

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_collaborationism_with_the_Axis_powers


14 posted on 03/15/2014 5:41:14 PM PDT by Bogie
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To: 1rudeboy

Duh, self loathing Joos.


15 posted on 03/15/2014 5:41:16 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

If you want to make a comparison, be honest and name the two forces now in competition for world domination. HINT: Putin is not one of them but the methodology for ruling nations by debt accumulation is one of them.


16 posted on 03/15/2014 5:46:14 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN

Only Putin can save us from the Fed?


17 posted on 03/15/2014 5:51:57 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: kathsua
Why buy it when you can steal it.

That may be all they get from the looks of things however at least according to the Gateway Pundit.

Statement of the MFA of Ukraine with respect to assault landing of the Russian Armed Forces in the Kherson region on March 15 Yesterday, 17:31 Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine expresses its strong and categorical protest against the landing on March 15, 2014 near the village Strilkove, Kherson region of troops of the Russian Federation Armed Forces in a number of 80 military personnel, and seizure of the village Strilkove with the support of 4 helicopter gunships and 3 armored combat machines.

Ukraine Foreign Ministry declares the military invasion by Russia and demands the Russian side to immediately withdraw its military forces from the territory of Ukraine.

Ukraine reserves the right to use all necessary measures to stop the military invasion by Russia.

18 posted on 03/15/2014 5:52:29 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Bogie

Yep, the Russian Communists were so terrible that they made the Nazis look like a trade UP. Context is important.


19 posted on 03/15/2014 5:59:38 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Bogie

Some people, who apparently are almost completely ignorant about history, don’t understand that many peoples welcomed the Nazis as liberators and fought alongside them. Even German half-Jews, blacks, and a number of far-flung groups like these Azeris fought with the Nazis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Warsaw_Uprising_Aserbeidschanische_Feld-Bataillon_111.jpg


20 posted on 03/15/2014 6:05:17 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Toddsterpatriot

How silly


21 posted on 03/15/2014 6:25:19 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: kathsua

yes


22 posted on 03/15/2014 6:49:13 PM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: kathsua

this week be good


23 posted on 03/15/2014 6:49:13 PM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: kathsua

Why should Russia have to pay for it? It was Russian since the 1854 Treaty ending the Crimean War. It was given to Ukraine by the Soviet regime without the consent of the Russian Federation. Ukraine should just give it back.


24 posted on 03/15/2014 7:01:15 PM PDT by Procyon (Decentralize, degovernmentalize, deregulate, demonopolize, decredentialize, disentitle.)
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To: MHGinTN
I know.

ruling nations by debt accumulation is one of them.

Ridiculous.

25 posted on 03/15/2014 7:19:47 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

You have cultivate nice alinskyesque moves. Piss off, agitprop.


26 posted on 03/15/2014 7:29:44 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN

Is it the Bildaburgers?


27 posted on 03/15/2014 7:30:40 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: kathsua
This journalist's grammar is horrible.

Russia might also offer to compensate anyone wishing to move from Crimea to the Ukraine or The Ukraine to Crimea.

It should be simply "Ukraine", which is a sovereign nation, and "the Crimea", which is an area, a part of something bigger.
28 posted on 03/15/2014 8:09:09 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: kathsua

Those who think the West will respond to Putin in regard to Ukraine should forget about it. Not gonna happen. And if it did happen with The Obama in charge we would wish it didn’t. Western Europe is dependent on the oil and gas they get from Putin. Sure Putin needs the funds he gets from Europe but he can certainly survive for a lot longer than Europe can without heat in their homes and power for their factories. It was reported on TV that we had to turn to Putin to get our supplies via rail through Eastern Russia to our troops in Afghanistan after Pakistan, our erstwhile ally refused to allow transit through their country. We are so screwed!!!


29 posted on 03/15/2014 8:32:03 PM PDT by brydic1
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To: vladimir998

Fascism is economic power. Weapon production puts people back to work,but at what cost.


30 posted on 03/16/2014 7:38:18 AM PDT by Bogie
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To: Bogie

“Fascism is economic power.”

Fascism is a political system. It is not an economic system.

“Weapon production puts people back to work,but at what cost.”

At the cost of slavery. Weapons in the hands of common people makes the enslavement of those people by a foreign power much harder or even impossible.


31 posted on 03/16/2014 8:08:12 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

Seems as though you got a little mixed up.


32 posted on 03/16/2014 3:57:16 PM PDT by Bogie
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To: Bogie

Not in the least.


33 posted on 03/16/2014 4:45:12 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Secret Agent Man

Obama-communist who appoints czars.

Both rotten to the core.


34 posted on 03/16/2014 4:48:17 PM PDT by dforest
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