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FL:Reform of Stand Your Ground Law Passes House
Gun Watch ^ | 24 March, 2013 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 03/23/2014 5:55:57 PM PDT by marktwain


HB 89, a reform of the "Stand Your Ground" law, passed the Florida House on 20 March with a vote of 93-24.  The law extends the same immunity given to people who actually shoot someone in self defense to those who only threaten force or fire warning shots in self defense.

The bill was given impetus by the Marissa Alexander case where the defendant claimed to have fired a warning shot, but was sentenced to 20 years in prison under Florida's mandatory sentencing laws.

The bill has brought together a coalition of diverse supporters, including the  Florida Public Defender Association and the NRA.

 “We see, routinely, clients that we believe shouldn’t be prosecuted because they did act in lawful self-defense,” said Stacy Scott, the Gainesville-based public defender for the 8th Judicial Circuit. “We’re fighting those cases in court every day.”
The reform bill also provides for the expungement of records in self defense cases.  From bradenton.com, Representative Matt Gaetz:
“The point is to make sure that someone who appropriately uses the ‘stand your ground’ defense doesn’t have their life ruined by the use of that defense,” Gaetz said.
This site shows the recorded vote of 93 to 24.  The bill passed with strong bipartisan support.


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TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; florida; guncontrol; standyourground
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The old media called for reform. They got reform. If may not be exactly the reform they wanted...
1 posted on 03/23/2014 5:55:57 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Sounds good. Good for Florida.


2 posted on 03/23/2014 6:00:58 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: marktwain
Now THIS is what I call Common Sense Gun Law Reform.

3 posted on 03/23/2014 6:17:12 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Trayvon’s parents aren’t going to be happy about it.


4 posted on 03/23/2014 6:17:27 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: marktwain

“Warning Shots” are usually a bad idea.

If you should have a situation where you believe a “warning shot” is appropriate.....NEVER ADMIT TO COPS THAT IT WAS A “WARNING SHOT”!!!

You “feared for your life” and just happened to miss!!!!!


5 posted on 03/23/2014 6:17:38 PM PDT by G Larry (There's the Beef!)
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To: marktwain
Warning shots are usually a bad idea, but this is a definite improvement in the law.
6 posted on 03/23/2014 6:18:34 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney (Book: Resistance to Tyranny. Buy from Amazon.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

The perpetually outraged are impossible to placate. :-)


7 posted on 03/23/2014 6:28:00 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: marktwain

The Rev. jacksonnnnnnnnnnnnnnn will be complaint about racism is 5...4...


8 posted on 03/23/2014 6:41:41 PM PDT by matt04
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To: marktwain

Bad cases make good law? IIRC, Alexander’s “innocence” was highly questionable.


9 posted on 03/23/2014 6:43:22 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Screw the farmers. I can get everything I need at the grocery store.)
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To: marktwain

I am completely and totally thankful this article did not include the words

Travon
George
Martin
Zimmerman

Hopefully we’ve gotten beyond that.


10 posted on 03/23/2014 6:54:51 PM PDT by upchuck (South Carolina Representative Trey Gowdy for Speaker of the House!!!)
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To: G Larry

“Warning Shots” are usually a bad idea.

I think so to... with emphasis on the “usually”.

I simply see many instances where they seem to work to convince the aggressor that the defender is serious.

The real danger is the bullet hitting someone not intended.


11 posted on 03/23/2014 7:10:52 PM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: marktwain
The bill was given impetus by the Marissa Alexander case where the defendant claimed to have fired a warning shot, but was sentenced to 20 years in prison under Florida's mandatory sentencing laws.

1. This wouldn't be a story if Alexander wasn't black.
2. She left, got the gun, and then returned in order to fire here "warning shot". The DA viewed it as intimidation with a firearm.
3. 20 years was a stupidly long sentence for the offense, but that is the M.O. of our DA, Angela Corey, who over charges everthing she touches.

12 posted on 03/23/2014 7:11:34 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SampleMan

You make good points. I agree that the major impetus for the law is the insanity of the inflexible sentencing law.


13 posted on 03/23/2014 7:36:10 PM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: JoeFromSidney

Always shoot to stop. Warning shots are for the movies.


14 posted on 03/23/2014 7:49:23 PM PDT by Theoria (End Socialism : No more GOP and Dem candidates)
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To: marktwain

Bwaaahaha


15 posted on 03/23/2014 8:25:54 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: SampleMan
3. 20 years was a stupidly long sentence for the offense, but that is the M.O. of our DA, Angela Corey, who over charges everthing she touches.

That is true and it is probably because of her overreach that this case was usable as leverage for an expansion of FL's SYG law. She pushed the pendulum too far for her personal gain and it swung back in favor of all Floridians. Lemons made into lemonade.

16 posted on 03/23/2014 8:33:31 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2; All
No way! Innocent people are going to suffer and it will be used to attack the very idea of armed self defense.

This is Trojan Horse legislation!

17 posted on 03/23/2014 9:38:06 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: SampleMan
"...The DA viewed it as intimidation with a firearm."

It was aggravated assault. I doubt the DA viewed it as intimidation. It was probably viewed as missed shot.

"3. 20 years was a stupidly long sentence for the offense, but that is the M.O. of our DA, Angela Corey, who over charges everthing she touches."

In this case the fault is the Florida minimum sentencing laws. It is a stupidly long sentence, but it's also mandated by the law. The DA had nothing to do with it. In fact, Alexander was offered a plea deal for 3 years, but turned it down.

18 posted on 03/23/2014 9:43:26 PM PDT by mlo
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

“This is Trojan Horse legislation!”

How so? I’m not saying you are wrong I just am not seeing it.


19 posted on 03/23/2014 10:05:06 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: BitWielder1

something about “mills grinding extremely fine”
comes to mind... but it’s us who have to do the
grinding. and remember: if “they” get the upper hand
all the gains will be erased.


20 posted on 03/24/2014 12:34:59 AM PDT by cycjec
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