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When getting a math problem RIGHT means more than calculating the correct number...
The Looking Spoon ^ | 3-27-14 | The Looking Spoon

Posted on 03/27/2014 1:25:52 PM PDT by The Looking Spoon

We don't need to know anything else about this kid to know they're a good one...



TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: arth; math; woundedwarrior

1 posted on 03/27/2014 1:25:53 PM PDT by The Looking Spoon
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To: The Looking Spoon

I saw a paper where the answer was correct but the teacher chided the kid for not using “friendly numbers”


2 posted on 03/27/2014 1:27:14 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL

Okay I’ll bite what is a friendly number?


3 posted on 03/27/2014 1:32:03 PM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: PoloSec

Dunno, but one is the lonliest number...and two can be as bad as one. So maybe that narrows it down a bit ;-)


5 posted on 03/27/2014 1:36:46 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: bigbob

Yeah, we can definitely eliminate 1 as a friendly number.

But two can be as sad as one. It’s the loneliest number since the number one, you know.


6 posted on 03/27/2014 1:40:01 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: The Looking Spoon

Wasn’t this nonsense stopped decades ago as it was called New Math?


7 posted on 03/27/2014 1:41:03 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: PoloSec

I have no clue, if I see reported somewhere I will copy it here


8 posted on 03/27/2014 1:43:58 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: MrB

Three is a magic number.


9 posted on 03/27/2014 1:44:37 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: bigbob
Dunno, but one is the lonliest number...and two can be as bad as one. So maybe that narrows it down a bit ;-)

Well, it is the lonliest number since the number one...

10 posted on 03/27/2014 1:48:48 PM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: The Looking Spoon

Jeez! Isn’t anyone reading the paper???


11 posted on 03/27/2014 1:56:00 PM PDT by MNDude
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To: The Looking Spoon

priceless


12 posted on 03/27/2014 2:03:33 PM PDT by dontreadthis
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To: dfwgator

I thought three was a crowd?


14 posted on 03/27/2014 2:25:31 PM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: SAJ; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; AccountantMom; Aggie Mama; agrace; AliVeritas; ...
Ping to post number 13 for.......

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. Articles pinged to the Another Reason to Homeschool List will be given the keyword of ARTH. (If I remember. If I forget, please feel free to add it yourself)

The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.

15 posted on 03/27/2014 2:28:41 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: SAJ

Holy Mackerel Der Andy!


16 posted on 03/27/2014 2:32:14 PM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: SAJ
Friendly number: one of a higher-order friendly tuple of natural numbers and a member of a friendly pair. Two numbers with the similar abundancy form a friendly pair therefore numbers with the same abundancy form a friendly tuple.

This is a definition useful in the study of number theory, related (as you can see above) to the concept of abundancy and a first cousin (as it were) of the notion of an "amicable number".

WTH kind of crap is THAT?

Is someone testing out a new random word generator?

Looking up the word *tuple* I came across this.....

What's a tuple in normal English?

http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/12891/whats-a-tuple-in-normal-english

The word derives from the extended series of single, double, triple, quadruple, quintuple,..., where named multiples beyond five are generally words that end in "tuple". The natural (Latin-derived) words peter out pretty quickly, and mathematics needs more terms than a simple bipedal meat unit can easily memorize, so the term "n-tuple" was coined. Computer science took that ball and ran with it, dropping the "n-" altogether. In other words, "tuple" has no meaning in everyday English.

17 posted on 03/27/2014 2:34:08 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: metmom

My understanding is that if you arrange a tuple that is a smoot long then it’s
value is equal to the IQ of the present resident of the Oval Office.


18 posted on 03/27/2014 2:44:23 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Waiting for the Golden Screw to be removed from Obama's navel and his a$$ falls off!)
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To: The Looking Spoon

19 posted on 03/27/2014 2:47:15 PM PDT by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

That’s a friendly number with benefits.


20 posted on 03/27/2014 2:47:58 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Of which the Square root is 8 something!
Or defined as head over heels in love!


21 posted on 03/27/2014 2:48:31 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Waiting for the Golden Screw to be removed from Obama's navel and his a$$ falls off!)
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To: Hoodat

22 posted on 03/27/2014 2:49:24 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: metmom
Metmom -- 'tuple' probably has no usage in regular English. Nor does 'Riemannian manifold'. Nonetheless, they are both well-known and useful terms, with nice formal definitions, in the world of mathematics.

A 'tuple' in regular English is a set of numbers (typically but not by any means always integer numbers) that either share a common property or the set itself is a solution set, partial or complete, of some polynomial.

'Abundancy' is -- well, you don't want to get into what abundancy is, actually.

The intent of my rather pointed commentary was that the Commie Corpse ludicrous concept of 'friendly number' is as academically verkakht as would be the gratuitous redefinition in physics of 'gravity' to be 'the frequency of apples landing on Newton's head.'

And I'm not certain at all that the grotesque stupidity indicated by that last definition is sufficienly indicative of the abysmal lack of knowledge, coherence and intellectual competence as demonstrated by the Commie Corpse Crapheads.

FReegards to you, and I am **ALL FOR** homeschooling, SAJ

23 posted on 03/27/2014 3:03:46 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: OpusatFR
Wasn’t this nonsense stopped decades ago as it was called New Math?

No.

Now it has metastasized...

24 posted on 03/27/2014 3:11:02 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: Hoodat
Is this cartoon bitch claiming that: "If you square an irrational number, you always get a rational number."

Sorry, I can't tell just WHAT she is alleging, because the cartoon is right-truncated as displayed.

If, however, that IS what she is claiming, she's another Commie Corpse idiot. Just for a simple example, Pi (3.141526535...) is certainly irrational, transcendental even, but it's square is equally certainly not rational.There is an involved proof of this from, as I recall, Tamaguchi, c. 1970.

If, OTOH, she's claiming something else (that, sadly, cannot be read because of the truncation), then I retract the last example.

I do not retract the comment about her being a member of the cabal of Common Corpse idiots.

25 posted on 03/27/2014 3:14:03 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: SAJ

Apologies for the typo in the value of Pi. Sticky keyboard, grrrr, and my error entirely.


26 posted on 03/27/2014 3:25:13 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: SAJ

The world of mathematics is one thing.

Talking like that to 4th graders is a whole ‘nother story.


27 posted on 03/27/2014 3:55:49 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: The Looking Spoon

According to Buddy Sorrell, 32 is the funniest number.

Sally Rogers: What’s a matter with fifteen?
Maurice (Buddy) Sorrell: Thirty-two’s a funnier number.
Sally Rogers: Since when?
Maurice (Buddy) Sorrell: Thirty-two has ALWAYS been a funnier number! I hear thirty-two, I get hysterical! Watch.
[turns to Rob]
Maurice (Buddy) Sorrell: Try me.
Rob Petrie: Thirty-two.
Maurice (Buddy) Sorrell: Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! Hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoooo!
Sally Rogers: Well, I gotta admit he’s right.

“The Dick Van Dyke Show: The Curious Thing About Women (#1.16)” (1962)


28 posted on 03/27/2014 4:19:05 PM PDT by ShasheMac (Be still and know that I am God. Psalm 46:10)
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To: The Looking Spoon

good kid
and of course the answer is always

42


29 posted on 03/27/2014 4:23:43 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (We should not fear our government. Our government should fear us.)
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To: metmom
Agreed completely. I don't believe I advocated talking "like that" to 4th graders, or indeed to anyone studying below, more or less, 2nd year collegiate math.

Actually, you're helping make my point. Were I teaching 4th graders (say), neither I nor any competent mathematician would ever CONSIDER using such a term as 'friendly number', because the usage of such terms give NO value whatsoever to the student.

Yet, a whole claque of non-mathematician educrats see "fit" to use that term (and others) in a completely fraudulent and inaccurate manner TO 4TH GRADERS, which usage is absolutely guaranteed to confuse the students AND serve no constructive purpose whatever in advancing their education. Indeed, such usage is retrograde regarding the students: such usage and the jackassery of 'methodology' that they foist upon the students is completely artificial, intimidating and (assuming one is even interested in teaching arithmetical procedures to students -- by no means a 'given') counterproductive.

I daresay the Commie Corpse losers understand at least part of the notions in the paragraph above, and their answer is, generally, "Fine!" In short, their concern is NOT educating students. You can read between the lines at your leisure.

BTW, the last time I talked with young students in the US -- 2nd grade, as it happens -- my opening sentence was (approximately) "If you guys want to learn arithmetic, then I can show you ANYthing you want to learn in 1 hour. Because the first thing about arithmetic is: If you can count, you can add. 15 minutes after that, if you can count, you can subtract. And multiply. Now, we humans started off what we call 'arithmetic' by using our fingers (give example), but we've figured out faster ways to do arithmetic than just by counting. And, besides, counting on our fingers gets to be a problem if we're talking about numbers bigger than 20."

You can, certainly, see how the talk proceeds from there. About 70% of the kids "get it" in the first 10 minutes. That's ok. A competent teacher, one who is concerned about "educating" rather than ideology or indoctrination, can help the others catch up.

BTW, I live in Panama. This method works exactly the same with native Spanish speakers. I just need to improve my Spanish vocabulary. Even so, I've 11 school speaking engagements on my calendar just now. One of the kids had his mom bake some cookies for me (which, of course, I recirculated to the class), then I got to watch his jaw drop in the next class when I gave him a batch of cookies for his family. Who says that math guys can't relate, eh?

:^)

30 posted on 03/27/2014 4:33:12 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: The Looking Spoon

I agree. I don’t need to know anything else about that kid. He or she is a keeper.


31 posted on 03/27/2014 4:52:49 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (Is it solipsistic in here, or is it just me?)
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To: The Looking Spoon

I agree. I don’t need to know anything else about that kid. He or she is a keeper.


32 posted on 03/27/2014 4:52:49 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (Is it solipsistic in here, or is it just me?)
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To: ShasheMac

I read somewhere that they never even bothered giving Buddy Sorrell a script. When they did, it just said Buddy says something funny.


33 posted on 03/28/2014 8:59:33 AM PDT by cyclotic (Hey BSA-I'm gone. Walk Worthy-traillifeusa.com)
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To: cyclotic

You’re probably right, they called him the Human Joke Machine.


34 posted on 03/28/2014 1:46:23 PM PDT by ShasheMac (Be still and know that I am God. Psalm 46:10)
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