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The Empire of the Antichrist Is Very Near
Shoebat.com ^ | April 01, 2014 | Walid Shoebat

Posted on 04/02/2014 9:13:47 AM PDT by Shery

The empire of the Antichrist is very near, and it will be Turkey.

Before we examine the issue of Turkey, we must first examine the monumental problems in much of what circulates the prophecy arena in the West.

Perhaps the major problem with modern Bible Prophecy Analysts in the U.S. is that they are mostly ahistorical who also invest in a crowd that is also ahistorical.

Another problem is that the Bible is mostly focused on the Middle East and most Western Prophecy writers have a scant understanding of the Middle East demography, sectarian rifts and religious aspirations in the region. It is not only the Prophecy analysts that always fall into this weakness, but also political and government analysts who are always screwing up more than they resolve matters.

If in doubt, just look at the results of U.S. policies in the region; Syria, Iraq, Libya and Egypt as a result of U.S. policies are all in a big mess and there is no end in the horizon for the U.S. to be able to repair the damage. While many blame Obama, I can also give several examples in which Carter messed up during the Iranian Revolution, Reagan messed up in Afghanistan (he gave stingers to the Mujahideen who later became the Taliban)....

(Excerpt) Read more at shoebat.com ...


TOPICS: History; Religion
KEYWORDS: antichrist; belongsinreligion; falseprophet; iran; israel; jihadist; lebanon; middleeast; notahistorytopic; russia; syria; turkey; walidshoebat; worksforiran
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Walid has been featured on several sites now and you can find on youtube many of his teachings on End Times. They are worth the time.
1 posted on 04/02/2014 9:13:47 AM PDT by Shery
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To: Shery

I have a Facebook “friend” who claims he is a fraud - which of course he’s NOT! Anyone have any idea how this rumor got started? I’d like to confuse her with some facts.


2 posted on 04/02/2014 9:38:08 AM PDT by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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To: Shery

Shoebat seems to be sane. I think we can all see the signs pointing to the AntiChrist emerging now that his understudy, Baraq Hussein Obama, has set the table.


3 posted on 04/02/2014 9:40:59 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: FrdmLvr

> I have a Facebook “friend” who claims he is a fraud - which of course he’s NOT! Anyone have any idea how this rumor got started? I’d like to confuse her with some facts.

Liberals are always publishing blogs with false conclusions and facts to mislead people away from the truth.


4 posted on 04/02/2014 9:42:55 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Shery

They have been prophesying the Antichrist and the end of the world since Paul. I think Antichrist is Obummer and I’m just as right as anybody else.


5 posted on 04/02/2014 9:49:07 AM PDT by Vinylly (?)
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To: Vinylly

This is the first time, since the time of Paul, that the Jews are back in Israel with control over Jerusalem. This is the first time that the whole world will be able to watch the death and resurrection of the Two Prophets. This is the first time that the technology exists to implement the Mark of the Beast as an economic tracking mechanism. I could go on, but you get the point. Please, get right with the Lord so that you will not have to endure the seven years of the Tribulation. That way you don’t have to speculate about the identity of the Anti-Christ, and you get to watch as he is sent, alive, into the Eternal Lake of Fire.


6 posted on 04/02/2014 9:55:58 AM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: SubMareener

bttt


7 posted on 04/02/2014 10:00:14 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (In America, we don't do pin pricks. But sometimes we elect them.)
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To: Shery

Very intriguing read. I’ve always been skeptical of the canned ‘end times’ prophesies because they did ring so hollow. This has some substance. I will follow with interest. Thank you for posting it.


8 posted on 04/02/2014 10:04:41 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: Psalm 144

A friend of mine was so immersed in sharing his latest views of prophecy that it tired me out. I finally asked him to point out the scripture that tells us to put the prophetic puzzle together. Where does scripture tell us to figure out the events before they happen. To the contrary, we are told to “watch”, so that when the events happen, we will recognize them.


9 posted on 04/02/2014 10:12:50 AM PDT by aimhigh (John 14:21)
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To: aimhigh

Yes. There are a number of disputed areas which I find fascinating, but will not engage in. They will take care of themselves. I do not need to know the chemistry of resurrection to believe it, and to benefit from it. What is incumbent on me is to be faithful and grateful for it.


10 posted on 04/02/2014 10:18:33 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: Shery

I wonder if Turkey, not Russia, is the land to the North in the Gog, Magog war in the Ezekiel 38-39 prophecy.


11 posted on 04/02/2014 10:23:37 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: SubMareener
Matthew 24:22 “If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.

About the time the nation of Israel was formed in 1948 we developed the weapons to fulfill this prophecy. Before the h-bomb we could not "leave no flesh alive".

12 posted on 04/02/2014 10:26:38 AM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: Shery

Near? I thought it started January 2009?


13 posted on 04/02/2014 10:30:28 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: SubMareener
I do think we're seeing an interesting alignment of nations, and the push for World Order marches on as the EU snatches countries into it's fold....comparable to the Revived Roman Empire. (A comparison of mapping is an interesting read to understand the dynamics of World Powers on the move today.) No doubt the World Stage is being set, and we cannot ignore the USA weakened economically, as it would have to be for the movements to continue the push. Though the US is very much involved in the World Order push itself.

Interesting is seeing 'the nations resisting' the NWO Push.....Russia and China as well as Syria, Egypt and others. Yet the media opposes the very nations rather than understand and report the underlying causes and why they are resisting....which indicates the media is certainly framing the World Stage and compliant with the powers that be.

But on the whole the world is ripe for the great deception, and I think we know that God can slow this down and or speed it up at will.... Presently it appears he's allowing leaders motives and desires for power and money to be the driving force for what we see playing out, and setting the stage for what will come.

I question greatly if Christians will actually see or accurately guess the identify of THE Anti-Christ when he appears on the World stage, we are called to look for Christ's coming not the anti-Christ. The unsaved will not be able to identify the anti-Christ as a Counterfeit....they will be under the deception God says he will send because they refused to acknowledge His Son.

Bottom line it will all line up when and how God determines...no sooner no later than.

14 posted on 04/02/2014 10:52:23 AM PDT by caww
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To: Vinylly

‘bammers is the “John the Baptist” of the Antichrist - preparing the way.


15 posted on 04/02/2014 10:53:38 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Shery

Totally wacked out!

He should have a pit right next to HalCamping’s when he goes.
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16 posted on 04/02/2014 10:58:43 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: SubMareener; Vinylly

>> “Please, get right with the Lord so that you will not have to endure the seven years of the Tribulation” <<

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Wow! - throw the scriptures in the toilet?

All of those that are “right with the Lord” will definitely endure the 3.5 year tribulation if they live that long, according to Yeshua, and Paul. (Matthew 24, 1Corinthians 15)

Some people just shouldn’t give advice.
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17 posted on 04/02/2014 11:04:35 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Matthew 24:36
“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father”


18 posted on 04/02/2014 11:05:40 AM PDT by john316 (JOSHUA 24:15 ...choose you this day whom ye will serve...)
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To: MrB

>> “‘bammers is the “John the Baptist” of the Antichrist - preparing the way.” <<

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For sure! - (he wishes that he had been cast in the lead role)
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19 posted on 04/02/2014 11:06:33 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

He very well could be... he’d just not “indwelt” yet.

It’s not clear that the AC will know who he is until this happens.


20 posted on 04/02/2014 11:08:25 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: john316

We don’t know the day, nor hour because it depends on the new moon on the temple mount. (Feast of Yom Teruah)
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21 posted on 04/02/2014 11:08:31 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Oh, another point... the AC is referred to as

“the man of lawlessness”.

Describe anyone you can think of?


22 posted on 04/02/2014 11:09:13 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: FrdmLvr

He was featured on CNN until he started defending Israel. Then they called him a fraud. A lot of Muslims go to youtube to denounce him, but remember this one thing. Jesus told us to expect this...to be called a liar, fraud, etc.

He has been featured on Frontpagemag and rightscoop.com, etc. They feature him on Fox occasionally, as well. I emailed Walid and told him we used to live in Turkey, told him about how it really nailed down our new belief (at that time—1984-85) that Europe was not the 10 nations, Germany would not produce the Antichrist, that the the RC church was not the Harlot.

In the past 5 years, one could read all the prophetic scriptures again and get a whole new take on it because of what has transpired in 5 short years! I believe that God has opened the meaning of the prophecies that were sealed by Daniel. We are living in those times now. It is time to wake up and take the blinders off, forget what you’ve learned and start studying it all over again, asking the HS to guide, and lead us into all Truth.


23 posted on 04/02/2014 11:16:47 AM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: GBA

It is!


24 posted on 04/02/2014 11:18:10 AM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: Shery
Walid is awesome; there are so many others, within and without the Kingdom, that think they can analyze stuff based on their intelligence. The Kingdom requires His Spirit to reveal truths to us, thru our spirit, into our minds, if our minds have ever learned to listen this way.

Spiritual truths must be obeyed into our lives, they cannot realistically be thought in. Since those outside and many/most inside refuse to actually obey His full words, then they have resorted to intelligence, alone. Just like the Pharisees are they. The great Apostasy will be full of these; it is filling up now.

Each obedience opens up a well-spring of truth, that cannot be gotten any other way. I have heard it said and I agree that we all have a lot to unlearn. Will you?

25 posted on 04/02/2014 11:18:25 AM PDT by veracious
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To: MrB

He is also described by the “number of his name.”
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26 posted on 04/02/2014 11:25:55 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

I’m sure someone can manipulate bammers’ name into 666 somehow...

or maybe 664, the Neighbor of the Beast.


27 posted on 04/02/2014 11:30:35 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Or 999, the beast down under.


28 posted on 04/02/2014 11:32:08 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: N. Theknow
"Present Obama? What's this '999' here?"


29 posted on 04/02/2014 11:34:24 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: veracious

Yes, I do! The Lord started working on our beliefs early on in our marriage. We almost got into a cult, accidentally, by a false teacher. After that we felt that we needed to be a lot more careful. We started feeling uneasy about the pre-trib rapture in the 1980s. We started listening to Marvin Rosenthal. He challenged our core beliefs about that stuff. We read a lot, studied a lot, began to realize how difficult it was to make a case for the Pre-trib rapture without leaning on commentaries to carry it through, and we felt that God would not make something so important so difficult to understand. Then, as things in the Gulf started going to the pits and the threat of world-wide muslim takeover became more believable, we began to see that the ME (middle east) is the KEY to end time prophecies. We’d been saying that, ourselves, to some extent, then Walid’s teaching removed the scales. Having lived in Turkey, it was staring right at us, and though we’d sensed that Turkey and the other muslim countries were all in the end-time plot, we’d not figured out the part that the Caliphate was the 7th beast. We’d been thinking it was Hitler/Germany for so long that we were still thinking they’d make an alliance with the 8th beast to become part of the Antichrist alliance. Germany apologized for the Holocaust. Turkey never did, and they were in cahoots with Hitler. To me, Walid makes very good points.


30 posted on 04/02/2014 11:35:22 AM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: Shery

Agreed. Shoebat’s book, God’s War on Terror, provides many parallels between the Islamic Mahdi/Isa duo of their End Times prophecy, and Christianity’s Antichrist/False Prophet duo or our End Times prophecy. I’m convinced they’re one in the same.

Who could successfully engineer a treaty between Islam and Israel? The Mahdi. Who would have an instant 1 billion bloodthirsty followers? The Mahdi.


31 posted on 04/02/2014 11:39:45 AM PDT by afsnco
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To: afsnco
Good post. I agree.
My current personal beliefs are that the 12th Imam of Islam will be the Mahdi/Anti-Christ. I don't believe Barack will be the 12th Imam but I do think they are on the same family cell-phone plan.

Here is the part that will blow people's minds. Islam also believes that Jesus was a prophet and that he will come again also. I believe that Jesus will be the False Prophet. (i.e. False Jesus). Imagine Jesus (False Jesus) returning to earth, doing signs, wonders, and miracle. He will teach the Bible showing how verses point to the 12 Imam/Mahdi as the Messiah and that we mis-understood he was the Messiah, he was just to point the way to the real Messiah (Mahdi). What would deceive the elect more than a False Jesus doing miracles? Try to wrap your head around that one for a while...

32 posted on 04/02/2014 12:01:53 PM PDT by LivingNet
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To: caww

Apparently among many evangelicals (even on FreeRepublic), there’s this ongoing notion that a revived Roman Empire would form the initial kingdom of the Antichrist. Some would even say that the EU would form the basis of this revived Roman Empire (even though many EU countries were never part of the Roman Empire to begin with). And they’re worried that the EU would somehow reinstate the guillotine because of Revelation 20:4, while ignoring the one group that still uses beheading as means to execute Christians.

Shouldn’t they be more concerned with a revived Turkish Ottoman Empire? After all, the Ottoman Empire is the seventh kingdom in Revelation (after destroying the Roman Empire in 1453), and the eighth world empire (the empire of the Antichrist) is a revival of the seventh instead of the sixth.


33 posted on 04/02/2014 12:04:11 PM PDT by istandwithsarah (Game on!)
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To: editor-surveyor

Deuteronomy 29:29

King James Version (KJV)

29 The secret things belong unto the Lord our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law.


34 posted on 04/02/2014 12:59:58 PM PDT by john316 (JOSHUA 24:15 ...choose you this day whom ye will serve...)
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To: john316

You want things to be secret, but he wants things to be known.

He wants us to watch (parable of the virgins), and if we do not watch, he comes on us as a thief in the night (Rev 3:3 If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.)

Once the abomination is revealed, all things are known.
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35 posted on 04/02/2014 1:40:53 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: istandwithsarah; caww

>> “Shouldn’t they be more concerned with a revived Turkish Ottoman Empire?” <<

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No, that is facetious at best.

How would the powerless Turks overcome the world?

The World Government is already in place; you’re just ignoring it.
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36 posted on 04/02/2014 1:45:05 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: caww

>> “ we are called to look for Christ’s coming not the anti-Christ” <<

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We are told exactly when he is coming after the abomination is revealed. 3.5 years is what Yeshua said, and he also revealed that he is coming at the exact moment that Yom Teruah begins in Jerusalem. (the only feast that we don’t know the beginning until it happens)


37 posted on 04/02/2014 1:50:35 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: aimhigh
Many say the same thing you comment about below - including some pastors. These comments by Christ from Mark 13 illustrate the extreme opposite opinion. How many times do we read, "You've heard it said, but I tell you ..."?

Some translations say, "Watch" instead of "Stay Awake"! We are actually admonished to watch for The Times

28) From the fig tree learn its lesson: as soon as its branch becomes tender and puts out its leaves, you know that summer is near.

29) So also, when you see these things taking place, you know that he is near, at the very gates.

30) Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place.

31) Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.

32) But concerning that day or that hour, no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

33) Be on guard, keep awake. For you do not know when the time will come.

34) It is like a man going on a journey, when he leaves home and puts his servants in charge, each with his work, and commands the doorkeeper to stay awake.

35) Therefore stay awake—for you do not know when the master of the house will come, in the evening, or at midnight, or when the rooster crows, or in the morning

36) lest he come suddenly and find you asleep.

37) And what I say to you I say to all: Stay awake.
38 posted on 04/02/2014 1:54:02 PM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: editor-surveyor

Do you believe the World Government will be Islamic? If so, why wouldn’t the Turks be involved? If not, why would it insist on using beheading (as opposed to more efficient killing methods such as gas chambers, guns, etc) as the means to kill Christians?


39 posted on 04/02/2014 1:58:21 PM PDT by istandwithsarah (Game on!)
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To: editor-surveyor

When I say, “get right with the Lord”, I am inviting you accept Jesus Christ as you Savior and Lord, acknowledge and repent of all you sins, ask Jesus to forgive you and accept Him and His Holy Spirit into your life to help you live according to God’s will for your life. I believe that the Bible says that if you do that your name will be added the the Book of Life and you will be saved.

While I definitely believe the Bible says that the Rapture of the Church occurs prior to the start of the seven Tribulation period, you are most welcome to your interpretation. Hope to see you at the Wedding Feast of the Lamb. :-)


40 posted on 04/02/2014 2:34:22 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: LivingNet
I believe that Jesus will be the False Prophet. (i.e. False Jesus). Imagine Jesus (False Jesus) returning to earth, doing signs, wonders, and miracle. He will teach the Bible showing how verses point to the 12 Imam/Mahdi as the Messiah and that we mis-understood he was the Messiah, he was just to point the way to the real Messiah (Mahdi). What would deceive the elect more than a False Jesus doing miracles?

I believe that you are right.

False Christ comes first as stated in the bible

41 posted on 04/02/2014 2:35:08 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Shery

Thank you Shery for the information. This gives me something to go on when dealing with her.


42 posted on 04/02/2014 2:44:30 PM PDT by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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To: SubMareener; editor-surveyor

I have to agree with SubMareener, e-s. You cite Matthew 24 for one of the scriptures to support that Christians will still be here during the Great Tribulation.

I see two or three things in that chapter that tell me we won’t. For instance, v37, “But as the days of Noe were...”, talking about people not suspecting the end was coming. God didn’t let Noah go through the flood. This tells me that God’s people will be saved from destruction - that we will be taken away.

Now, I understand that Noah’s family rode out the flood, and that could be interpreted as riding out the tribulation for us, but being insulated from the destruction as Noah was seems to tell me that I won’t be in it.

Those Christians who are mentioned in the chapter that are going through all the problems can be seen as those saved after the Rapture without doing any damage to the scripture.

Whether we are left, or we are taken out - I will accept what God gives, and know the end result will be wonderful.


43 posted on 04/02/2014 2:58:15 PM PDT by HeadOn (HOLD..... HOLD..... HOLD.....)
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To: Shery

Bump for later


44 posted on 04/02/2014 4:11:34 PM PDT by winodog
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To: editor-surveyor

It’s amazing how this Rapture theory is being propagated. I can’t think of one TV super preacher that doesn’t profess it. I guess that’s why the Lord said that the “whole world will whore after him”.


45 posted on 04/02/2014 4:57:33 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: HeadOn; SubMareener

You see Yeshua as a liar, by your post.

And Paul to boot.

At the last trump is the stated time for the rapture, both by Yeshua and by Paul. The Revelation also places the resurrection at the 7th trump. There is not one word anywhere in the scriptures that indicates anything else.

And yes Noah did go through the flood, in the ark.

Everything about the trib in scripture points out that it is the tribulation of the saints. That is the whole point of it. “Immediately after the tribulation of those days” is also quite specific.

There is no mention in any scripture of any salvation happening after the first resurrection. The damage done by such a belief is to destroy your belief in Yeshua. God’s wrath is what happens after the end of the trib. (the 7 bowls)

There will be nothing wonderful about the trib; Satan will be wroth, and the saints are who will pay for it. It says that they will kill us.


46 posted on 04/02/2014 5:42:35 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Karl Spooner

The pre-trib rapture hoax will be what weakens most and cause them to fail to “endure to the end.”


47 posted on 04/02/2014 5:45:11 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: istandwithsarah

>> “Do you believe the World Government will be Islamic?” <<

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No, it can’t be. The UN is the framework of it, and it is completely secular.


48 posted on 04/02/2014 5:51:34 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Shery

It’s always been near.

The question is really, when will it be now?


49 posted on 04/02/2014 5:52:49 PM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: editor-surveyor

We stopped believing in the pre-trib rapture in the ‘80s. WHen you cannot defend a viewpoint without having to lean on commentaries (of men) and say that a certain word in this particular instance means something it rarely means in Scripture at all was just too ridiculous.I’d grown up believing it, too! But I could not defend it when I tried to. We see the pre-trib view as having decimated the power of the church. When you think a Scripture doesn’t pertain to you, you feel you can ignore the consequences of it, but you do at your own peril. Most Americans await a pre-trib rapture that is not coming. Their faith will be sorely tried when they find themselves in the middle of the “week”, when Antichrist reveals himself by desecrating the temple, then they are going to feel betrayed. This is why Paul warned us to study, to show ourselves approved unto God, to be ready for anything.

To speak of any view other than the pre-trib position is to be considered a heretic in most churches. Not so in other countries, though. Unless they have a Bible that has a lot of American commentaries in them. If they just have a native language, straight translation Bible, they tend to believe that the rapture comes at the 6th seal, just before the 7 trumpets and the 7 bowl judgments. We lived overseas for 25.5 years. (In Turkey for 6 years!)


50 posted on 04/02/2014 6:08:32 PM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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