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Exclusive: House Republicans' Secret Immigration Ploy
Breitbart ^ | Apr 2, 2014 | Matthew Boyle & Jonathan Strong

Posted on 04/02/2014 7:44:48 PM PDT by Ray76

House Republicans are quietly working to insert immigration legislation into the text of the Department of Defense authorization bill that would allow so-called DREAMers to obtain permanent legal residency by joining the military, Breitbart News has learned.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; denham; illegalimmigration; mccarthy; steveking
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1 posted on 04/02/2014 7:44:48 PM PDT by Ray76
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To: Ray76

The GOPe needs to die the death of the Whigs.


2 posted on 04/02/2014 7:47:26 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

They are well on their way.


3 posted on 04/02/2014 7:50:19 PM PDT by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: Ray76

They are dirty bastards, if true.


4 posted on 04/02/2014 7:50:58 PM PDT by citizen (There is always free government cheese in the mouse trap.....https://twitter.com/kracker0)
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To: tennmountainman

...and the Great Spineless One (aka: boner) had the nerve to send a plea for funds to me (along with an insultingly written “survey”. No money for you and your ilk, boner.


5 posted on 04/02/2014 7:52:33 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Ray76

Vote conservative or don’t vote. And don’t come at me with this lesser of two evils crap...it ain’t working.


6 posted on 04/02/2014 7:53:56 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Ray76

4 Horsemen were sent by the SC Tea Party in 2010. Tim Scott is the only one who has not sold out.

Ted Yoho has a fake conservative challenging him. Yoho is a good candidate except when he got duped into voting for Ryan-Murray.
http://www.jakerushforcongress.com/issues
“However, for those that serve in our military, there should be an opportunity for citizenship. “

“For example, a trio of South Carolina lawmakers, Reps. Jeff Duncan, Mick Mulvaney, and Trey Gowdy – the latter of whom is the chairman of the immigration subcommittee in Goodlatte’s Judiciary panel – have cosponsored the bill, as has McKeon.”


7 posted on 04/02/2014 7:54:03 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: citizen

True, but I bet not too many “dreamers” dreamed of going into the military.


8 posted on 04/02/2014 7:55:39 PM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: Ray76

If they join the military, that seems fair enough. My grandfather joined the army and fought in WWI in order to become a US citizen. A lot of men from foreign countries did this over the years.

But here’s a question - if this method of citizenship is already legal, why is this new bill inclusion necessary?


9 posted on 04/02/2014 7:55:46 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Paladin2

They are working very hard to go the way of the Whigs. They are being devious, they promote Amnesty, they will not hold to account a criminal Executive. They’re useless, worse: they’re in the way.


10 posted on 04/02/2014 7:56:09 PM PDT by Ray76 (Profit from the mistakes of others, you'll never live long enough to make them all yourself.)
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To: Talisker

Because they’re Illegal Aliens.


11 posted on 04/02/2014 7:57:35 PM PDT by Ray76 (Profit from the mistakes of others, you'll never live long enough to make them all yourself.)
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To: Ray76
Up to a year ago, I thought that if they went to the back of the bus they could go along for the ride.

Now they clearly need to go UNDER THE BUS.

12 posted on 04/02/2014 7:59:07 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Ray76

Question: Hasn’t service in the American military historically been a legitimate way to earn citizenship?


13 posted on 04/02/2014 8:01:23 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media -- IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Huskrrrr

Vote your conscience.

If you don’t have one you will when you dire.


14 posted on 04/02/2014 8:02:29 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

“4 Horsemen were sent by the SC Tea Party in 2010. Tim Scott is the only one who has not sold out.

They all go native when they get up there...


15 posted on 04/02/2014 8:02:53 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Huskrrrr

dire....die


16 posted on 04/02/2014 8:03:17 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: Talisker

There are already provisions for LEGAL immigrants to join the military and earn citizenship. This is about letting illegals join the US military and become US citizens. How can we know the background or even the true identity of illegals? We know that they are lawbreakers. How many will be foreign agents or terrorists? No way to know. Are these really people we want in the US military?


17 posted on 04/02/2014 8:03:51 PM PDT by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: Ray76

There are no Republicans, there are Democrats and those that wish to hold office called Democrat lights. Both want the same thing (besides power), a future in politics and who cares about the country anyway... Me, Mine, and Ours!


18 posted on 04/02/2014 8:05:58 PM PDT by Deagle (ues)
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To: Talisker
But here’s a question - if this method of citizenship is already legal, why is this new bill inclusion necessary?

Sometime in the late seventies, the allowance for a foreign national to earn his US citizenship by serving in the military was done away with. Now, you still have to apply and pass all the standard requirements and tests to attain citizenship, with no preference for the time you served whatsoever.

19 posted on 04/02/2014 8:12:45 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: Ray76

Boehner’s Amnesty Czar’s Twitter feed has gone to radio silence. Becky Tallent has the gravitas of Brittany Spears, but something’s up.

https://twitter.com/beckytallent


20 posted on 04/02/2014 8:14:20 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

I support rapid and efficient deportation of all illegal aliens and criminal prosecution of any employer. “Be right on citizenship or be in prison”. That is the law!!


21 posted on 04/02/2014 8:19:34 PM PDT by SADMILLIE
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To: Ray76
Have the sponsors of this Bill determined how many DREAMer’s will enlist?

What happens if a DREAMer does not qualify medically for enlistment?

Will he be able to get a Green Card by doing some other kind of “national service?”

Is it fair to ask if home grown Americans might be denied a job in the military, or denied promotion, because illegal aliens are taking those jobs away?

When the DREAMer is discharged, and he receives his Green Card, do people understand that his parents, who came to the USA illegally, will also receive Green Cards?

Do people understand that just one DREAMer Green Card opens the Green Card “gate” for dozens of other family members and in-laws?

Do Republican Congressmen understand that 80% of these people will vote for the Democrat Party when they become citizens?

22 posted on 04/02/2014 8:20:58 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: okie01
Question: Hasn’t service in the American military historically been a legitimate way to earn citizenship?

It used to be that way. Under the Carter administration, I believe, who probably did it in an attempt to further reduce the size of the military as well as lessening the amount we spent on maintaining it, in the seventies simply joining the military was no longer proof of your commitment to this country's core values. You were on your own, and had to go fill out the forms and apply for citizenship on your own dime, with no more consideration than that of any other applicant.

Less, actually, since I happen to know for a fact that they were handing out the questions and answers to the citizenship exams to the Vietnamese "boat people" so that they could get their citizenship without too much bother.

23 posted on 04/02/2014 8:22:10 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: Ray76

Any politician who promotes amnesty/illegal aliens is willing to damage this country.


24 posted on 04/02/2014 8:26:03 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Ray76
House Republicans are quietly working to insert immigration legislation into the text of the Department of Defense authorization bill that would allow so-called DREAMers to obtain permanent legal residency by joining the military, Breitbart News has learned.

GOP Suicide
25 posted on 04/02/2014 8:27:49 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: iowamark
There are already provisions for LEGAL immigrants to join the military and earn citizenship. This is about letting illegals join the US military and become US citizens.

There WERE, at one time. See the previous postings...

26 posted on 04/02/2014 8:28:51 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: Ray76

Didn’t the Romans try to conscript the Germanic tribes into the Roman military before they took over Rome?


27 posted on 04/02/2014 8:30:02 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Utilizer

Thanks for the response and explanation.


28 posted on 04/02/2014 8:35:11 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media -- IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Talisker

You want illegal invaders serving in the military, enforcing Obama’s police state laws against real Americas?

This could cause a dangerous shift in the composition of the military towards soldiers that are not only not loyal to America, but who have a grudge against America and “Anglos.”

How did filling up the army with foreigners work out for the Roman Empire?


29 posted on 04/02/2014 8:38:18 PM PDT by Monmouth78
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To: Ray76

I have a dream that the Romney, Ryan, Paul and Cruz families will supply young men for our military. I have a dream that we will actually see some GOP leaders who were man enough to serve in combat units. One can always dream.


30 posted on 04/02/2014 8:42:49 PM PDT by MSF BU (n)
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To: Monmouth78

Exactly, Rome went down this route. When young men are unwilling to serve in uniform it is a horrible indicator for the nation.


31 posted on 04/02/2014 8:43:56 PM PDT by MSF BU (n)
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To: okie01

Welcome, mate. Anytime.


32 posted on 04/02/2014 8:56:39 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: SADMILLIE

Prosecuting employers is essential. Also essential is for politicians to stop inducing illegal entry by promising free/reduced cost education, subsidized health care, and other entitlements. Also politicians must stop facilitation by giving driver license etc. Inducing and facilitating are crimes themselves. Perhaps politicians should be prosecuted as well.

For the past several years there has been a unrelenting push for Amnesty. We are told that the border will be secured by some “comprehensive reform” yet all during this time there has been no effort whatsoever to secure the border. This refusal to secure the border is their leverage, which they will not surrender. If the border had been secured the Amnesty forces would lose their bargaining chip. These people are highly motivated, organized, and subvert the law. They jeopardize our security and general welfare holding them hostage to their demand for Amnesty.

If they were anything other than zealous subversives they would have spent these past years building trust and confidence with Americans by securing our border and enforcing our immigration processes. But they have not. They will not. They care not about anything other than their agenda. The security and welfare of you or the United States is of no concern. They want to cheat at business and empower themselves politically.

The promise of enforcement after some “comprehensive reform” is lip service. If they meant it it would have already happened. And now, yet again, they are exposed in some devious scheme to sneak through their Amnesty agenda.

They have earned every drop of hatred that I have for them.


33 posted on 04/02/2014 8:57:37 PM PDT by Ray76 (Profit from the mistakes of others, you'll never live long enough to make them all yourself.)
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To: bigheadfred

This isn’t about military recruitment. This is just so the illegal alien can punch the ICE agent in the face and scream at them they they are a Cantor Dreamer.

This is deliberate attempt to give illegals excuses when law enforcement tries to arrest them.

If they get arrested they just promise to join the military and they are let go.


34 posted on 04/02/2014 9:05:51 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: Ray76; All

Is this what their little “secret” meeting was all about ..??

We could have saved them the trouble.

If they do this .. the election in Nov is going to be a complete overhaul.

What a legacy for Mr. Boehner .. a complete destruction of the laws of America .. he should be so proud.

I’m at puke already with these people.


35 posted on 04/02/2014 9:11:07 PM PDT by CyberAnt (MY AMERICA: "... I'm terrified it's slipping away.")
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

bookmark

doing time

wait

cliff note

look before you leap


36 posted on 04/02/2014 9:11:09 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: CyberAnt

Ah yes. Amelia Island Ritz Carlton. Good catch, CyberAnt.


37 posted on 04/02/2014 9:16:01 PM PDT by Ray76 (Profit from the mistakes of others, you'll never live long enough to make them all yourself.)
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To: Ray76
Peace, Ray76,

If this is such a good idea, why are the Republicans trying to hide it in another bill? Good ideas can stand on their own. Bad ideas need to hide from scrutiny.


James R. McClure Jr.
Jeffersonian Anti-Federalist Democrat for IN09

38 posted on 04/03/2014 4:57:30 AM PDT by James R. McClure Jr.
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To: Ray76; Tennessee Nana; Liz; TADSLOS; EXCH54FE; GeronL; Travis McGee; jimbo123; ...
RE :”House Republicans are quietly working to insert immigration legislation into the text of the Department of Defense authorization bill that would allow so-called DREAMers to obtain permanent legal residency by joining the military, Breitbart News has learned.”

Ah yes, we will need them to liberate, occupy and rebuild Iran, Syria and Crimea.
Perfect Army private material.

This is why there is such a high correlation between those who call for amnesty and those who call for US military action place after place around the world.

39 posted on 04/03/2014 5:06:31 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: sickoflibs; GOPJ; AuntB; Tennessee Nana; TADSLOS; Grampa Dave
Nice observation.

There is a high correlation between (1) those calling for amnesty, and, (2) those calling for US military action in place after place around the world. The "Dreamers" are needed to liberate, occupy and rebuild Iran, Syria, Crimea, etc etc etc........

IOW, this is a sub rosa neocon plot. Talk about planning ahead. The military personnel will be in place when the pukes dupe the next president into invading several countries of their choosing.

Yet another indication of the pukes takeover of the GOPe.....kicking conservatives to the curb every chance they get.

40 posted on 04/03/2014 5:32:58 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz

The Republican’s secret ploy about illegal aliens is no secret...

Romney, Rubio, McCain, Ryan, Corker, Alexander and so on..


41 posted on 04/03/2014 5:46:23 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: ObamahatesPACoal; Liz

“However, for those that serve in our military, there should be an opportunity for citizenship. “
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However illegal aliens are not allowed to serve in the US military..

only American citizens and immigrants (that’s foreigners who knocked politely and were invited into the US and came in by the front door as guests and given green cards) may serve in the US military...


42 posted on 04/03/2014 5:51:26 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

Thanks for the reminder.

Rubio even hired a necon to staff his prez campaign.


43 posted on 04/03/2014 5:53:47 AM PDT by Liz
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To: okie01

Keep in mind that this applies to “DREAMERS”, who were ostensibly brought into this country as children, possibly without knowlege of what was happenening to them and possibly without knowledge that they are here illegally.

This strikes at an article posted yesterday about how Conservatives are great at facts and statistics, but get beat repeately and severely by Democrats on narrative.

Hispanic teenager who thinks he’s a citizen walks into a recruiting station because he wants to serve “his country”, finds out mom and/or dad lied to him about being brought here illegally when he was in the low single digits, and gets arrested and put into jail pending deportation proceedings may be the legally correct thing to do, but it really makes Conservatives look like complete a**holes when it’s shown on the evening news and used as the basis for Dem campaign ads.


44 posted on 04/03/2014 6:00:25 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Tennessee Nana
.....valid, legit, certified immigrants (foreigners who knocked politely and were invited into the US, who came in by the front door as guests and given green cards) may serve in the US military...

.......illegal aliens who snuck in over the border are not allowed in the US military......

No doubt these illegal military wannabes have multiple identites, rap sheets here and in foreign lands, are cashing multiple US govt checks under several identities, and are loyal soldiers of violent reconquista groups plotting to undermine US ntl security.

Putting high-tech US weaponry into the hands of these scumbags is a recipe for disaster...and I do mean Ft Hood.

45 posted on 04/03/2014 6:03:56 AM PDT by Liz
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To: tanknetter

Keep in mind that this applies to “DREAMERS”, who were ostensibly brought into this country as children, possibly without knowlege of what was happenening to them and possibly without knowledge that they are here illegally.
__________________________________________

Keep in mind that they must have found out at some time to have known they had to apply to be DREAMers..

Keep in mind that when they found out that at age 18 they were no longer children but now responsible for their crimes..

they were now adults illegally in the US..

Keep in mind that they knew now they were breaking the law themselves..

Keep in mind that they should have either left the country and applied to come in legally

or given themselves up to ICE..

Just because my father robs a bank when I’m 5 doesn’t mean I can keep the money when I’m 18..


46 posted on 04/03/2014 6:15:42 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: tanknetter

Keep in mind that this applies to “DREAMERS”, who were ostensibly brought into this country as children,
_________________________________________

Keep in mind that those same children knew something was going on that had to be hidden from the law..

they weren’t hiding from bad guys..

they knew they were doing wrong..


47 posted on 04/03/2014 6:18:46 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

Not saying that I disagree with you on any of those points. But from a political mechanics perspective, best of luck trying to overcome the Liberal
narrative with them.


48 posted on 04/03/2014 6:36:57 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Talisker
If they join the military, this seems fair enough

If they're here legally and are already taking steps toward citizenship, within reasonable numbers, they'll assimilate and reflect US values. The problem with this is you'll have a situation where a huge percentage of the military recruits will not be US citizens and it makes the war mongerers less accountable to US voters. How far would that be from having a military that would fire on US citizens but not protect our southern border with Mexico?

It's hard to find enough US citizens to fight the globalist wars we don't agree with. So what's the solution going to be?.....fill the ranks with Free Syria terrorists? Maybe a few battalians that want to be part of Mexico? It's a bad problem the military has; this solution is even worse.

49 posted on 04/03/2014 6:47:40 AM PDT by grania
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To: Liz; sickoflibs
There is a high correlation between (1) those calling for amnesty, and, (2) those calling for US military action in place after place around the world.

There's a darker side to this... The advantage of filling the military with foreigners is they'll be much more willing to shoot American citizens on American soil.

Some years back - in a conversation with two young Iranian students( before Imadinnerjacket was elected) they explained how foreigners and outsiders were brought into Iranian security systems (police - guard etc) BECAUSE they were willing to shoot and kill student protesters. Apparently it's difficult for people raised in the same city to shoot people they grew up with...

There's plenty of American citizens willing to serve in our army. There's no honest reason to bring in illegals.

50 posted on 04/03/2014 7:03:47 AM PDT by GOPJ (http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2012/12/12/u-s-physicist-tom-fife-obama-was-groomed-to-be-president-)
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