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Suspect for FBI Raid on 91-Year-Old Indiana Artifact Collector Identified
Gun Watch ^ | 6 April, 2014 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 04/05/2014 1:23:10 PM PDT by marktwain


Who accused 91-Year-Old Donald Miller of what has been unclear.  Speculation involving his numerous technological achievements have run rampant as people simply did not believe that the government would send 50-100 FBI agents to check out the collection of artifacts that this former member of the Manhattan project had gathered over the last 80 years.

But the unbelievable has become a bit more plausible  as more information has dribbled out.   Mr. Miller has not been charged with any crime, and maintains his innocence.   He claims that all his materials have been collected legally.

Others have speculated that envious collectors associated with the Obama administration are involved, that a museum coveted his collection, or that he is a Republican, and therefore subject to "special" treatment.   

The truth may lie somewhere in between.  In this article from wthr.com, it is revealed that a leftist Native American group, AIM, has an interest in the case:

An organization representing Native Americans believe human remains are buried among thousands and thousands of artifacts collected by Donald Miller in the U.S. and around the world.

The FBI investigation and massive effort to recover thousands of invaluable artifacts is being watched by the American Indian Movement. Until recently, its local chairman lived only a half-hour away from the Rush County site.
"We are glad something like this has happened," said Albert Runningwolf, American Indian Movement.
 Is the raid "payback" for support among leftist Native Americans?

With  the lack of transparency that has come to be expected from this administration, we may never know for sure. 

The idea that you have to "prove" that you legally own something that is in your possession upends the tatters of the fourth amendment and the presumption of innocence.    It moves us away from the core value of American jurisprudence, that whatever is not forbidden is allowed, and toward the core tyranny of authoritarian regimes where "whatever is not permitted is forbidden".

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 91yearold; aim; artifactcollector; artifacts; donaldmiller; fbi; godsgravesglyphs; in; indiana
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Pure spite and covetousness.
1 posted on 04/05/2014 1:23:12 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Native American group believes remains among Rush Co. artifacts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3141007/posts


2 posted on 04/05/2014 1:25:23 PM PDT by digger48
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To: marktwain

“I see you have stuff. Give it to me.” — The Government


3 posted on 04/05/2014 1:26:29 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: marktwain
The FBI's new theme song.
4 posted on 04/05/2014 1:28:42 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: marktwain

As I posted earlier, AIM didn’t “believe” a damn thing!

The INVENTED the pretext of “human remains” to make the false report.

They need to be in JAIL for making a false accusation.


5 posted on 04/05/2014 1:29:21 PM PDT by G Larry (There's the Beef!)
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To: marktwain

The facebook comments on the original WRTV article were being slammed by an apparent Native American Activist from Purdue, accusing Mr. Miller of all sorts of felonies.

http://www.wthr.com/story/25144019/2014/04/02/fbi-raiding-rush-county-home-looking-for-artifacts.

Mr. Miller appears to be a straight-up guy who obviously wasn’t trying to flaut the law, since he was allowing groups to tour his home.


6 posted on 04/05/2014 1:30:25 PM PDT by digger48
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To: marktwain

Time for some shooting back.


7 posted on 04/05/2014 1:32:47 PM PDT by Crazieman (Are you naive enough to think VOTING will fix this entrenched system?)
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To: digger48

Well if you’re an FBI agent, would you want to be taking down illegal guns and drugs in the ‘hood, or roughing up a 91 yr old guy in the boondocks?


8 posted on 04/05/2014 1:33:32 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: digger48
"Authorities said Miller has been fully cooperative so far and he is not considered a criminal suspect. "

These days, he's in real legal trouble.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

9 posted on 04/05/2014 1:34:41 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: digger48

As was noted earlier, their are numerous treaties and laws that are rather vague and which make it nearly impossible to live without breaking them.

It is anarcho-tyranny.

There are thousands of laws on the books that should be simply repealed.


10 posted on 04/05/2014 1:36:20 PM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: nascarnation

Yep, the ‘roid-raging, donut-munching federal cops got that down. If they abuse or murder a few innocents along the way, well, heck, as long as they get home safe before bloated pensions kick in!


11 posted on 04/05/2014 1:37:28 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: nascarnation
or roughing up a 91 yr old guy in the boondocks?

Especially a 91 yo that was involved in the Manhattan Project, NASA and was instrumental in the development of transponder technology, among other things

12 posted on 04/05/2014 1:40:25 PM PDT by digger48
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To: digger48

Thanks for the link. I had not seen the post.


13 posted on 04/05/2014 1:41:25 PM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: G Larry
But, but they're Native Americans, meaning what, that they came here and took the the land from someone before someone else took it from them? They sure as hell didn't just sprout out of Coyotes butt! As I say they're Native Americans, they can't lie, that's what the evil White man does! Right?
14 posted on 04/05/2014 1:44:54 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: digger48
Well, apparently the guy had an array of large legged antennas.

He could'a been in cahoots with aliens.

15 posted on 04/05/2014 1:45:52 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: marktwain

I just want this story out there to as many as possible.


16 posted on 04/05/2014 1:46:40 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Mastador1

Actually, according to simple English, I’m a native American.


17 posted on 04/05/2014 1:46:44 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: marktwain
I'm surprised that Indiana is still allowed to have the letters "Indian" in their State name.
18 posted on 04/05/2014 1:48:41 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: marktwain

I hope he doesn’t have a dog.


19 posted on 04/05/2014 1:52:55 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: Paladin2
Yes but they are special native Americans. You know, the non existent, live as one with the earth, peaceful, stewards of the land. Not the wage war on other tribes, enslave captives, stampede buffalo herds over cliffs native Americans.
20 posted on 04/05/2014 1:54:03 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Crazieman

I can’t wait for it to happen.

Think Solzhenitsyn.


21 posted on 04/05/2014 1:54:20 PM PDT by x1stcav ("The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.")
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To: marktwain

Yes.


22 posted on 04/05/2014 1:54:54 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Mastador1

Don’t be too fast to rule out coyote’ butts as the source of these miscreants.


23 posted on 04/05/2014 1:56:06 PM PDT by x1stcav ("The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.")
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To: marktwain

Commandments Nine and Ten.


24 posted on 04/05/2014 1:58:27 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: x1stcav
Don’t be too fast to rule out coyote’ butts as the source of these miscreants.

Well Coyote is known as the trickster!

25 posted on 04/05/2014 1:58:32 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: marktwain
An organization representing Native Americans believe human remains are buried among thousands and thousands of artifacts collected by Donald Miller in the U.S. and around the world.

So, what is the reason for the hundred man swat raid? Was the feral government afraid he was going to flush the evidence? Two agents couldn't show up with a warrant? Is this raid being used to intimidate us?

If 100 agents can be spared to look at arrow heads, congress needs to cut their budget.

26 posted on 04/05/2014 2:09:44 PM PDT by metalurgist ( Want your country back? It'll take guns and rope. Marxists won't give up peaceably.)
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To: digger48
His problem was that he allowed groups to enter his home to view his artifacts. He should never display valuable collections. It just only allows jealous people to seek revenge that he's got something they don't have.
27 posted on 04/05/2014 2:09:46 PM PDT by Vinylly (?)
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To: Mastador1

I’m a Native American. I was born here too.


28 posted on 04/05/2014 2:14:02 PM PDT by metalurgist ( Want your country back? It'll take guns and rope. Marxists won't give up peaceably.)
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To: marktwain

Hope he has enough money to lawyer up. The ACLU certainly could not care less about his Constitutional rights. Clearly, nor does the FBI or the fedgov.


29 posted on 04/05/2014 2:25:08 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: piytar; All

He is 91 years old. He is extremely smart and understands bureaucracy. He has chosen to attempt the difficult, but not impossible finesse of the situation with the “I am one of you, and have nothing to hide” defense.

He may be able to pull it off.

I expect he still has contacts, maybe people that he mentored, in high places.

He has not been charged, and they have not taken most of his stuff. Yet.


30 posted on 04/05/2014 2:51:11 PM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: marktwain
He has not been charged, and they have not taken most of his stuff. Yet.

I wonder if they plan to "Waco" the guy?

31 posted on 04/05/2014 3:09:03 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: Mastador1

You mean they are feather Indians and not red-dot Indians?


32 posted on 04/05/2014 3:24:32 PM PDT by AlmaKing
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And I am a Native American, with all grandparents being born here.

Damn I’m tired of hearing that term. I say they are just natives.

The only tribe to fight with the colonists against England is the Huron as far as I know. And all 3000 of them live in Canada now.


33 posted on 04/05/2014 3:27:19 PM PDT by AlmaKing
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... they’re Native Americans, meaning what....

***
My ancestry is mostly Irish with a smattering of German, but whenever someone starts that Native American nonsense with me I say that I am Native American because I am an American born in America. I have even checked that box a few times on forms.


34 posted on 04/05/2014 3:38:47 PM PDT by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: Paladin2

See my post 34.


35 posted on 04/05/2014 3:39:55 PM PDT by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: Bigg Red
... they’re Native Americans, meaning what.... *** My ancestry is mostly Irish with a smattering of German, but whenever someone starts that Native American nonsense with me I say that I am Native American because I am an American born in America. I have even checked that box a few times on forms.

I actually have had a person of American Indian ancestry point a finger at me in a group conservation and say roughly that white people like me are to blame for blah,blah,blah. I firmly and impolitically told him he was stupid and that I was first generation and and my family had squat to do with his supposed issues and that further more the people of my heritage had suffered a hell of lot more than his people ever had. The look of confusion on his face was priceless.

36 posted on 04/05/2014 3:45:05 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: nascarnation

Perhaps they thought he had the crushed hyoid bone from Jimmy Hoffa’s remains that the FBI hasn’t been able to find for what. forty years?


37 posted on 04/05/2014 3:45:42 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: AlmaKing

Casino Indians not Call-center Indians.


38 posted on 04/05/2014 3:47:11 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: nascarnation

Exacly...low hanging fruit! Very sad!


39 posted on 04/05/2014 4:37:32 PM PDT by gr8eman (But thermodynamics is just a social construct, created by the ruling white power structure)
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To: Mastador1

Good for you. Really getting sick of all of it.


40 posted on 04/05/2014 4:39:05 PM PDT by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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41 posted on 04/05/2014 6:22:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: FBD; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...
Thanks marktwain, an update, boy there have been a lot of topics about this.

42 posted on 04/05/2014 6:22:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: marktwain
That's a tough Row.

He's in the arena. I believe he's unlikely to prevail, especially without expensive legal help - though if he has some politicians up his sleeve he may escape with light wounds.

43 posted on 04/05/2014 6:29:17 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Bigg Red

So were all my grandparents and on one side of the fam a couple of generations b4 that.


44 posted on 04/05/2014 6:32:02 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: marktwain; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; ...

'Let the jury consider their verdict,' the King said, for about the twentieth time that day.

'No, no!' said the Queen. 'Sentence first—verdict afterwards.'

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don't add you to the list...

45 posted on 04/05/2014 6:36:20 PM PDT by null and void (I don't mind getting older, but I hate wearing out!)
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To: marktwain

It figures. Fighting, drinking and collecting other people’s hard earned money is all they know how to do.


46 posted on 04/05/2014 6:38:13 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: SunkenCiv

The Gov’mint will never leave us alone because WE have the “heritage” of the nation...we were stewards of the land LONG before the white man came with his rules, treaties, and insidious land-grabbing schemes. The latter of which, the government is STILL trying to enforce. But don’t get me started.


47 posted on 04/05/2014 6:38:40 PM PDT by Monkey Face (Liberalism: Moochers electing looters to steal from producers.)
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To: marktwain
In the TV town of Mayberry Deputy Barney Fife left town for career in which of the following professions?

A. A shoe salesman in Atlanta
B. A Furniture Salesman in Mt Pilot
C. An FBI Agent
D. A Postal Service Investigator

48 posted on 04/05/2014 6:45:25 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: metalurgist

I’m a Native American. I was born here too.

***************************************************************

Me too. I’m a Native American born of ancestors who came to the western hemisphere centuries ago. Plus, I was born here also.


49 posted on 04/05/2014 6:50:31 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: null and void
Look at him. What a criminal.

http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/d9de1e94aea062a4eed806fd1b98bcd6b8a70995/c=94-0-1562-1105&r=x513&c=680x510/local/-/media/Indianapolis/Indianapolis/2014/04/03//1396556651001-184744.JPG

50 posted on 04/05/2014 6:54:11 PM PDT by FBD
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