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What is our obligation to those who make bad decisions?
Bookwormroom.com ^ | 4-6-2014 | Bookworm

Posted on 04/07/2014 5:18:44 AM PDT by servo1969

One of the things I’ve tried to drill into my children is the truism that the single biggest indicator of poverty is single motherhood. That data, incidentally, does not reflect the old-fashioned kind of single motherhood, which was the result of widowhood or abandonment. Instead, we’re talking about modern single motherhood, the kind that sees women who are deluged with birth control choices nevertheless get pregnant with boyfriends or hook-ups who feel no emotional connection or sense of economic obligation to either mother or baby.

One of my children has a part-time job at a cafe and is, for the first time, meeting adults who have full-time jobs but who aren’t middle-class professionals living in single family homes in solidly upper middle class neighborhoods. One of these adults is pregnant and is unhappy about the fact that the cafe, where she’s been working for only five months, will not give her maternity leave.

Inquiry revealed that the pregnant woman is not married; that she’s living with a boyfriend who may or may not be the father of her child (my kid doesn’t know), and that the boyfriend doesn’t work. Except for getting regular nooky at night (assuming that the pregnant woman still wants that kind of attention), the mother-to-be will be, for all practical purposes, a single mother.

My child found it concerning that the boss won’t pay this single mother not to work for him. My child was therefore stymied when I asked this question: ”Why should he pay for her foolish choices?”

I noted that, while it’s entirely possible that this woman was using enough birth control to protect six woman, and nevertheless still managed to get pregnant, the greater likelihood was that she was careless. Indeed, if she really wanted to protect against single motherhood, she could have abstained from sex until she had a ring on her finger and some economic prospects.

I threw in the fact that it’s incredibly costly to do business in California, especially in the food service industry, which have extremely low profit margins. Employers generally are drowning in regulations, which makes businesses very expensive to run. Add in taxes and all the other costs of business (rent, insurance, salaries, benefits, supplies, etc.), and it’s guaranteed that the employer is clearing just enough money for his personal expenses (mortgage, insurance, food, etc.). This owner is almost certainly not living extravagantly but is, instead, living a very temperate life.

Much of the money that the federal and state government are taking away from this man, both from his business and from him personally, is going to welfare programs for single mothers, something this employer must know. Since he’s already paying for the welfare this young woman will inevitably end up using, why should he pay twice by carrying her on the books even though she’s contributing nothing to his business? Even if he was feeling charitable, the government has left him nothing with which to be charitable, not to mention the fact that the government, by snatching money from his pockets, has already decided on his behalf which charities he should support — including economically foolish single motherhood.

Such a simple question: ”Why should he pay for her foolish choices, when the government is already taxing him heavily in advance to pay for all the foolish choices of intentionally single mothers across America”?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: california; charity; maternity; welfare

1 posted on 04/07/2014 5:18:44 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969
While claiming to empower women, feminism persuaded women to abandon the most precious of all commodities - the ability to create life.

Man's only chance of immortality is via offspring and the only source - women.

The consequence is millions of women and children living in government supported poverty while giving away life's most precious commodity - life.

But, the feminists are smarter than I, a mere male.

2 posted on 04/07/2014 5:27:31 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Historians will refer to this administration as "The Half-Black Plague.")
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To: servo1969

The free sh*t army votes.

That is all you need to know.


3 posted on 04/07/2014 5:37:15 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: servo1969

I’d say if the reproducer-to-be had come along and asked the guy, “Say me and this dude I’m gettin’ laid regular with are planing to pop out a little welfare check collector how about you paying my my salary while I’m not working?” And the guy said “Yes.” then there would be someobligation, but since I strongly suspect that no such question was asked. The hell with the woman and her soon to be born welfare check box.


4 posted on 04/07/2014 5:37:38 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: servo1969

Since when do “cafes” give maternity leave? If you want maternity leave, try and get a job in a corporation (although they are now scarce). Waiters & waitresses, like retail workers, unless they are union, generally go from job to job in search of better pay and more experience.


5 posted on 04/07/2014 5:39:07 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: servo1969

Way I see, man has no obligation to others; he has the right to choose to help others.


6 posted on 04/07/2014 5:39:23 AM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: Aevery_Freeman

-—Man’s only chance of immortality is via offspring

And if you have no children
through no choice of your own?...


7 posted on 04/07/2014 5:46:07 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: servo1969

A man I know from India, who grew up in a poor, remote rural village there, once told me that all poverty is caused by ignorance. Here, there, and everywhere.


8 posted on 04/07/2014 5:46:35 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: servo1969

P.S.: Hope you’re not talking to your kids about “getting nookie.” A simple “she’s made bad decisions and she’s now paying for it,” might suffice.


9 posted on 04/07/2014 5:47:30 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: servo1969

Couldn’t have said it any better. Exactly what any child should be told when they are being influenced by peer pressure to approve of the lifestyle choice of one of their fellow workers. Well said.


10 posted on 04/07/2014 5:48:47 AM PDT by flaglady47 (Oppressors can tyranize only w/a standing army-enslaved press-disarmed populace)
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To: servo1969

Hey, where’s dad in that logo?


11 posted on 04/07/2014 5:53:36 AM PDT by Fido969 (What's sad is most)
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To: PGR88
A man I know from India, who grew up in a poor, remote rural village there, once told me that all poverty is caused by ignorance. Here, there, and everywhere.

I strongly disagree. I really suspect that almost all people physically capable sexual intercourse are aware that it leads to pregnancy. So I would say that poverty is caused in many cases by a willful disregard for the consequences of ones actions and a focus on the immediate gratification of sex, drugs, cigarettes, etc.

12 posted on 04/07/2014 5:59:09 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: PGR88

While this man’s idea of ‘poverty’ may lead him to believe that ignorance is responsible, the definition and practice of ‘poverty’ in this country is something entirely different.

Starving malnourished children? How about sloth, laziness, drugs and idleness on the part of the parents? What we have here is pseudo-poverty. by definition it is solely meant to economically couple said sloths to entitlement purely for voting Democrat. Slavery is what we used to call it.

There actually are starving children here, they are in Appalachia, mostly white, and Obama, Holder, Sebelius, et al don’t give a rat’s damn about them.


13 posted on 04/07/2014 6:03:10 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: RWB Patriot
I swear, by my life and my love of it, that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.

Ayn Rand

14 posted on 04/07/2014 6:11:07 AM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: from occupied ga

“...poverty is caused in many cases by a willful disregard for the consequences of ones actions and a focus on the immediate gratification...”

See it ALL the time. I’m sure it is the No.1 cause of poverty in the US. Purely my own unscientific observation, of course.


15 posted on 04/07/2014 6:29:34 AM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (Vote Democrat. Once you're OK with killing babies the rest is easy. <BCC><)
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To: HangnJudge
Man’s only chance of immortality is via offspring

Knowing my luck, my kid would be the next Jeffrey Dahmer.

16 posted on 04/07/2014 6:57:31 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: from occupied ga

Are they not one in the same!? Ignorance = willful disregard?


17 posted on 04/07/2014 7:00:04 AM PDT by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: Fido969

must be virgin birth...


18 posted on 04/07/2014 7:06:18 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: servo1969

Whenever you converse with a lib - if you have to, you should use something to this effect:

“Now let me get this straight. You want to confiscate my private property against my will and give it to someone else because, in your opinion, they need it more than I do. If I refuse to participate, you authorize a government agent to jail or shoot me. And to top it all off, you feel good about yourself for advocating this situation? How do you justify that?”


19 posted on 04/07/2014 7:08:43 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: from occupied ga
So I would say that poverty is caused in many cases by a willful disregard for the consequences of ones actions and a focus on the immediate gratification

In my book - that is ignorance. Ignorance of consequences, ignorance of the future, ignorance of the state of one's soul.

20 posted on 04/07/2014 7:18:11 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Fido969

I believe ‘daddy’ would be whomever is looking at the logo.

So, ‘Hi, Daddy!’


21 posted on 04/07/2014 7:51:47 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: SgtHooper
Are they not one in the same!? Ignorance = willful disregard?

Not even slightly similar. If I know the consequences of an action and go ahead and do it anyway, that is willful disregard. If I don't know the consequences that is ignorance.

22 posted on 04/07/2014 8:25:51 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: PGR88
In my book - that is ignorance

Ignorance by definition is "lack of knowledge" Most of these people don't lack the knowledge of the consequences of their actions, they just don't care.

23 posted on 04/07/2014 8:28:58 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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