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Assessing the threat of cell-phone guns to law enforcement
.fox4now ^ | APR. 1, 2014 | .fox4now

Posted on 04/07/2014 3:26:42 PM PDT by moonshinner_09

LEE COUNTY, Fla. - Have you ever heard of a cell-phone gun?

It's one of the reasons Lee County Sheriff Mike Scott says his deputies were justified in snatching a Fort Myers man's cell phone.

The man was using it to record deputies searching his car.

But no one 4 In Your Corner asked -- from local fire arms experts to other police departments and even federal agencies -- seemed that concerned about the theat of cell phone guns as expressed by Sheriff Scott.

"He wasn't doing anything to threaten the officer, and he wasn't doing anything to interfere with their investigation," said the man's attorney Dave Shestokas.

Sheriff Scott disagrees, telling 4 In Your Corner in an email Monday: "The probable cause traffic stop, K-9 alert, presence of a firearm, and [the man's] lack of candor created a scenario where the potential for him to summon others to the scene via his cell phone was an officer safety concern."

Sheriff Scott went on to say: "It is a well documented fact that pagers, cell phones, and other commonly carried devices have in fact proven to be firearms."

In an effort to back up his claim. the sheriff sent Fox 4 a link to a video of a purported cell-phone gun being fired.

It was posted in 2007.

In the nearly 15 years since federal agencies first heard the devices were discovered in Europe, firearms experts tell Fox 4 cell-phone guns aren't easy to come by.

(Excerpt) Read more at fox4now.com ...


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: cellphone; donutwatch; florida; guns
My brave Deputies,lol you just cannot make up this stuff.
1 posted on 04/07/2014 3:26:42 PM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09
Well, he was shooting footage. That's shooting, right?
He's darn lucky it wasn't a gun-shaped pastry. That would have been really bad.

2 posted on 04/07/2014 3:31:26 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: moonshinner_09

LEE COUNTY, Fla. - Have you ever heard of a cell-phone gun?

It’s one of the reasons Lee County Sheriff Mike Scott says his deputies were justified in snatching a Fort Myers man’s cell phone.


The barrels run lengthwise, not thick wise. Cute excuse.


3 posted on 04/07/2014 3:33:22 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: moonshinner_09

We are getting to the point where a Nazi badge or ID card is all that is needed to allow any action without fear of the law. It is soft, but it is here now.


4 posted on 04/07/2014 3:33:46 PM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: moonshinner_09

Cell phone guns have been around over 10 years, as I recall hearing about them.

The cellphones in use today, would make poor ‘chassis’s’ for such a thing. The older phones that had the little thumb-sized antennas actually were used, in the Middle East.

I would think that the poor cops, frightened of their civilian populace, would be fearing the ingenuous, and previously used, “plastique” inside the cellphone casing.
(The applications and installations of such things I have no knowl;edge of.) I did see this “device” demonstrated on replays of that Spike TV ‘warrior’ show.

Again, certain cops not wanting the civilians to have firearms.


5 posted on 04/07/2014 3:37:02 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: moonshinner_09
Only one problem in the Sheriff's story. The guns that were spotted in Europe don't work as phones. They were gutted to accommodate a very small and inaccurate .22. All they had to do was have the guy show them the phone worked.

But we all know this had nothing to do with officer safety, don't we?

6 posted on 04/07/2014 3:42:01 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: moonshinner_09

I want a gun in my belt buckle...


7 posted on 04/07/2014 3:42:26 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: moonshinner_09

More justification for the out-of-control police to shoot anyone they want, any time, who has a cell phone. And everybody has one these days.


8 posted on 04/07/2014 3:42:49 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: moonshinner_09

Lee County Sheriff Mike Scott, AKA ignoramus.


9 posted on 04/07/2014 3:46:50 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: moonshinner_09

Cops: The other chicken meat.


10 posted on 04/07/2014 3:50:04 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: Drango

North American Arms makes a .22LR and Mag that snaps into a belt buckle. It is considered “open carry”, though, I believe.


11 posted on 04/07/2014 3:51:06 PM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject")
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To: moonshinner_09

Welcome to the police state.


12 posted on 04/07/2014 3:51:19 PM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: moonshinner_09

Cell phone gun ? What no picture ?


13 posted on 04/07/2014 3:51:52 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: Drango

North American Arms makes a .22LR and Mag that snaps into a belt buckle. It is considered “open carry”, though, I believe.


14 posted on 04/07/2014 3:52:31 PM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject")
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To: moonshinner_09

I have actually never heard of a cell phone gun tho just about everything has probably been made into a gun at some time or other.

Florida seniors better really watch out. There have been plenty of walking cane guns and even swords. Next time his deputies see one of those 90 year old’s carrying a cane they should open fire on grandpa.


15 posted on 04/07/2014 4:01:00 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: moonshinner_09

I’ve seen a small pocket that Al Capone had converted to shoot a single 22 bullet, it was basically the Boy Scout knife without the logo, I think he had 4 made as gifts.

The retired New York cop had it sitting innocuously on his dinner table where we were talking, it wasn’t until he came to trust me that he revealed that he had been armed all along and let me examine the grungy little knife that had been laying by his hand.

He had taken it from an assassin in a night club, who had fired it at him.


16 posted on 04/07/2014 4:04:05 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: moonshinner_09

Only a fool believes this was the real reason. Just pigs making excuses.


17 posted on 04/07/2014 4:15:43 PM PDT by LevinFan
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To: moonshinner_09

So now they can shoot the person with a cell phone (everybody) and claim that they were afraid for their life.

Fascism in motion.


18 posted on 04/07/2014 4:15:59 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: moonshinner_09

My dog has a collar gun.

He is a very good shot.

/s


19 posted on 04/07/2014 4:18:49 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (Because Brawndo's got electrolytes. Because Ethanol has Big Corn Lobby)
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To: ArtDodger
It is soft, but it is here now.

It is likely to get a lot worse, unfortunately.

20 posted on 04/07/2014 4:19:11 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: moonshinner_09

He saw a YouTube video. There’s a lotta s4!# on YouTube for this idiot to lay awake at nights worrying about.


21 posted on 04/07/2014 4:23:52 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin
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To: moonshinner_09

Barney Fife would be right on top of this.


22 posted on 04/07/2014 4:31:55 PM PDT by Rocky (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. George Orwell)
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To: Drango

23 posted on 04/07/2014 4:32:16 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: moonshinner_09

24 posted on 04/07/2014 4:35:26 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: moonshinner_09

Hey Sheriff Scott, your deputies didn’t happen to suck the data off of the seized phone, now did they?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPpGhdqpfzg&feature=player_embedded


25 posted on 04/07/2014 4:43:48 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Terry L Smith

This is not about firearms. This is about dirty cops fearing accountability.

You know how some cops like to tell us plebes that “if you’re doing nothing wrong then you have nothing to fear”?

Well, the bad cops fear cameras far more than they fear so-called ‘cell-phone-guns’.


26 posted on 04/07/2014 4:59:50 PM PDT by MeganC (Support Matt Bevin to oust Mitch McConnell! https://mattbevin.com/)
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To: Drango

***I want a gun in my belt buckle...***

You used to be able to get one of them from a cereal company back in the 1950s.

You can find one here.

https://www.etsy.com/listing/166757630/mattel-toy-belt-buckle-gun

Now, remove the toy and replace it with a real gun.


27 posted on 04/07/2014 5:09:13 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Mark17

I don’t think we can count on the police or the military to do the right thing, anymore. In order to keep their jobs and their benefits, they will do their paymaster’s bidding..God help us..


28 posted on 04/07/2014 5:12:42 PM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: Organic Panic

Stolen from the Ursula Andress movie THE TENTH VICTIM. She did it first!


29 posted on 04/07/2014 5:13:07 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Lee County Sheriff Mike Scott, AKA ignoramus.

I’d say AKA Nazi SS.

Don’t ever believe that cops are on the side of the people. To them we’re all guilty of something.


30 posted on 04/07/2014 5:14:50 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: VerySadAmerican

Lack of candor can be translated as refusing to answer questions in accordance with his constitutional rights. that was part of the justification.


31 posted on 04/07/2014 5:32:40 PM PDT by bt-99 ("Get off my Lawn")
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To: moonshinner_09
Sheriff Scott went on to say: "It is a well documented fact that pagers, cell phones, and other commonly carried devices have in fact proven to be firearms smuggled in from the planet Xenon."
32 posted on 04/07/2014 5:54:26 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: moonshinner_09

If you look at the pcitures and supposed videos of the supposed “gun” cell phones they are incapable of being the multi round weapons described. It looks very much like a hoax that grew legs.


33 posted on 04/07/2014 6:12:10 PM PDT by pacific_waters
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To: ArtDodger
I don’t think we can count on the police or the military to do the right thing anymore. In order to keep their jobs and their benefits, they will do their paymaster’s bidding..God help us.

Yes, I believe you are right. People keep asking will the military and police fire on American civilians. We already know the answer to that. It was Waco, and that was before the military purges. What has always puzzled me about Waco, is that a bunch of minorities were killed there. Where were the professional race hustlers when that happened?

34 posted on 04/07/2014 6:35:24 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: TigersEye; Jonty30
Sheriff Scott went on to say: "It is a well documented fact that pagers, cell phones, and other commonly carried devices have in fact proven to be firearms smuggled in from the planet Xenon."

What color is the sky in the Sheriff's world? Jonty, I like that, and if you don't mind, I will use it again :-)

35 posted on 04/07/2014 6:46:06 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: Mark17
Sheriff Scott went on to say: "They look just like Star Trek phasers I tells ya!"

Interesting.

36 posted on 04/07/2014 6:55:10 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Drango
I want a gun in my belt buckle...

I want a finger gun, Maxwell Smart was devastating with one!

37 posted on 04/07/2014 6:55:16 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: moonshinner_09


38 posted on 04/07/2014 6:57:12 PM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: Mark17
You didn't hear from the race hustlers because, like the outraged feminists and the outraged news people, they turn off their outrage when the crimes are committed by the ‘correct’ people. Senator Byrd witnessed a KKK lynching and regularly used the ‘N’word, politicians rape and debase women every day, news people turn the other way when a dem steals... Really, they are getting so blatant because they are winning and they know it.
39 posted on 04/07/2014 7:09:31 PM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: JoeProBono
A four shot cell phone? Not bad. But a Folding Pocket Gun is better.
40 posted on 04/07/2014 7:11:44 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: moonshinner_09

Yep, the cops here act similarly.
One of my peeves.

Good post!


41 posted on 04/07/2014 7:38:47 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: ArtDodger
Really, they are getting so blatant because they are winning and they know it.

Yes they are, and I believe it will get worse before it gets better, if it ever gets better.

42 posted on 04/07/2014 7:49:21 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: MeganC

Dear MeganC,

“The cops” are no longer ‘ol’ Officer Bob the beat cop’.”

They ARE the government. They are under Homeland Security. Your tax dollars that USED to go the LOCAL municipal police, now are sent to Homeland Security, first.

Therefore, they have become the embodiment of the historical redcoats.


43 posted on 04/08/2014 9:30:48 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: moonshinner_09

I want one!


44 posted on 04/08/2014 9:33:05 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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