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FL:Bill to Allow Citizens Guns in Emergencies Passes Senate Committee
Gun Watch ^ | 10 April, 2014 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 04/11/2014 6:14:47 AM PDT by marktwain


SB 296, the Florida bill that would remove restrictions on citizens carry of guns during an emergency, passed the Senate Community Affairs Committee on the  8th of April.  The bill reflects the philosophy of the second amendment, that guns in the hands of citizens enhance public safety.   Currently, the rights of Florida residents to carry arms are significantly restricted.   The open carry of weapons is restricted to certain activities, such as hunting, target shooting, fishing, and on a persons private property.  Concealed carry of weapons is restricted to people who have some training and who pay the fee to obtain the concealed weapons license. 

During an emergency, a resident may be forced to leave their property.  Under current law, if they have not taken the time and trouble to obtain a concealed carry permit, there is no legal way for them to carry a weapon for defense of themselves and others.  The proposed law removes the requirement for the permit during emergencies.  From
The Community Affairs Committee voted 8-1 to pass SB 296, sponsored by Sen. Jeff Brandes, R-St. Petersburg, that would remove any criminal penalties for those found carrying weapons in public without a permit during evacuations ordered by the governor.
The law exposes the fundamental rift between political parties written about by Thomas Jefferson, among others.   Jefferson wrote:
"Men by their constitutions are naturally divided into two parties: 
1. Those who fear and distrust the people, and wish to draw all powers from them into the hands of the higher classes. 
2. Those who identify themselves with the people, have confidence in them, cherish and consider them as the most honest and safe, although not the most wise depositary of the public interests."
 --Thomas Jefferson to Henry Lee, 1824. ME 16:73 

 It is the second group that are working to reform Florida law to bring it into closer conformity with the second amendment, and the first group that oppose such actions.   It was distrust of the people that lead to more and more infringements on the second amendment in the United States.   The iconic political theorist,  Niccolo Machiavelli, noted the problems with politicians disarming people:

When you disarm [the people] you commence to offend them and show that you distrust them either through cowardice or lack of confidence, and both of these opinions generate hatred against you. - Niccoló Machiavelli, The Prince. 1537.
The crime rate soared as more gun control was enacted, until 1993, as reforms made exercise of the second amendment a significant reality.   Large numbers of states followed Florida's lead in enacting "shall issue" concealed carry laws.  Illinois, the last holdout to allow any concealed carry in public, was forced by a Federal court to enact a shall issue law last year.  Five states now have "constitutional carry", where no permit is required.

The crime rate has dropped during the same period as the "trust the people" model has prospered.  Correlation does not prove causation, but it makes it difficult to believe that the "progressive elite" model that does not trust the people, is factually accurate in the United States.

©2014 by Dean Weingarten: Permission to share is granted when this notice is included.
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TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; emergency; fl; guncontrol
A ban on guns in emergencies says that the government does not trust the people. A removal of restrictions during emergencies says that true sovereign is the people.

Which begs the question: Why have the original restriction at all?

1 posted on 04/11/2014 6:14:47 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Pinellas county sheriff Bob Gualtieri was recently quoted as saying that he’s against this and that it’s ludicrous to even be considering it.

Sorry, Bob, but your deputies are going to be tending to their own business when a disaster comes our way. Disarming us isn’t going to make you look very good, you dolt.

2 posted on 04/11/2014 6:16:19 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

Being one of the privileged government enforcers permitted to carry weapons is what makes all too many “officers” feel SPECIAL and good about themselves.

“Why if everyone is permitted self-defense rather than dialing 911 and hoping for rescue where will our union and political jobs be?”

3 posted on 04/11/2014 6:43:19 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: marktwain

>>Large numbers of states followed Florida’s lead in enacting “shall issue” concealed carry laws.

I don’t know why FL gets such recognition on this. GA has had shall-issue since dirt.

4 posted on 04/11/2014 6:54:45 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: marktwain

April 10, 2014
PAGING ALL THUGS: Kroger disarms their security guards

Paging all thugs! Kroger is taking all weapons away from their security staff. COLUMBUS, Ohio (10TV) – Changes are in the works when it comes to how Kroger stores handle their security. The grocery chain has confirmed with 10TV that it is in the process of transitioning to unarmed security guards across the company. …The security company...

5 posted on 04/11/2014 7:04:24 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: JulieRNR21; kinganamort; katherineisgreat; floriduh voter; summer; Goldwater Girl; windchime; ...

Florida Freeper

6 posted on 04/11/2014 7:15:23 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: hoosierham; NonValueAdded

A couple weeks ago when it was announced the Florida Sheriffs Assn was against the bill, I emailed Brevard County Sheriff Wayne Ivey asking where he stands on the issue. He claims to be a strong supporter of 2A.


7 posted on 04/11/2014 7:49:27 AM PDT by shove_it (my real nickname is Otter)
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To: marktwain

We just made sure that wording was in our new gun bill in GA. In times of emergency nobody can confiscate weapons. Its good to have that language no matter what.

8 posted on 04/11/2014 8:07:31 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: marktwain

I’m in a remote rural area. In case of an “emergency” you can be sure that I’ll be armed, law or no law.

9 posted on 04/11/2014 8:24:07 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Don't give up! The liberals are buggering and aborting themselves into extinction.)
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To: hoosierham

““Why if everyone is permitted self-defense rather than dialing 911 and hoping for rescue where will our union and political jobs be?””

1. The union bankrupt.
2. Political job holders will be hunting a real job.

America can deport the illegal aliens just by closing down some agencies. Those AgencyPersons with no gubment feeding trough access card will displace the Messicans and other such criminals.

10 posted on 04/11/2014 8:44:19 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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