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Bureau of Land Management Hiding Behind Toothless Tortoise
CFP ^ | April 12, 2014 | Judi McCleod

Posted on 04/12/2014 5:06:42 AM PDT by iontheball

A June 1990 study, called The Desert Tortoise in Relation to Cattle Grazing by Vernon Bostick formerly posted to the University of Arizona website (and still found through Google) should prove once and for all the incredible stupidity of the bumbling bureaucrats with the Bureau of Land Management (BLM).

The BLM’s self-proclaimed ‘Save the Tortoise’ balderdash is killing off both the tortoise and cows:

(Excerpt) Read more at canadafreepress.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: blm; bundy; turtle
The dimwits are separating the suckling calves from their nursing mothers, leaving them to starve to death. They are removing the cattle off the range, which will deprive the turtle of life sustaning food and water. They will then let the range grow back to high grass, weeds, brush and trees, creating a tinderbox situation that will provide fuel for a range fire that will destroy the turtle and every living creature.
1 posted on 04/12/2014 5:06:42 AM PDT by iontheball
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To: iontheball

This is just the DNC and Reid stealing, again.

Just like ObamaCARE, which is not about health
but about State-directed murder and taxes and RICO,
this is about State-directed murder and taxes and RICO.


2 posted on 04/12/2014 5:12:54 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: iontheball

It’s about Harry Reid, his Son, the Soros NGO’s, and a $% Billion dollar taxpayer-paid graft project that will never, ever , make a profit.

What is the skim on FIVE BILLION DOLLARS, anyway?


3 posted on 04/12/2014 5:14:43 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: tcrlaf

Figure it out, it is reported that Fisker’s skim payback was somewhere around 100 million from the 500+ million in guarantees. This whole federal loan guarantees scam makes the check kiting scandal look like kindergarten playground tactics.


4 posted on 04/12/2014 5:19:34 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: iontheball

5 posted on 04/12/2014 5:19:50 AM PDT by McGruff (I wouldn't be surprised if Jeb Bush pulled a Charlie Crist)
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To: iontheball

Bob Massi, FOX legal analyst, is out there this morning. He is saying that over 52 ranches out there are gone due to the government making it impossible for them to make a living by denying those people anywhere to graze their cattle.

So much space is Feds or State and they want to use it for their own purposes.


6 posted on 04/12/2014 5:23:10 AM PDT by dforest
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To: iontheball

Take a look at that area and tell me about high grass, weeds, brush and trees. It is a desert for crying out loud. The only resemblance of those items you mentioned grow directly adjacent to the Virgin Creek, they call it a river. Everything else is sand, cactus and scrub, but the cattle have adapted to finding its chlorophyll needs on those native plants.


7 posted on 04/12/2014 5:24:17 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: tcrlaf
“It’s about Harry Reid, his Son, the Soros NGO’s, and a $% Billion dollar taxpayer-paid graft project that will never, ever , make a profit.

What is the skim on FIVE BILLION DOLLARS, anyway?”

Since the land was appraised around $38 million, maybe we need to ask what the skim on $38 million is. Sounds like plenty of graft to buy off Clark County commissioners too.

8 posted on 04/12/2014 5:26:01 AM PDT by FR_addict
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To: iontheball

Another fine reason to call DC the District of Criminals.


9 posted on 04/12/2014 5:37:28 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Diogenesis

……..Reid, Obama, Holder - a new spin on Pigford 3 and reparations tossed into the blender except they never expected to have thousands of angry patriotic American men and women to be headed for Nevada to back up Bundy as he faces the armed FBI and BLM and their trained dogs that have attacked and assaulted unarmed women

- Great PR exposure for the Democrats with a big election coming this November -


10 posted on 04/12/2014 5:46:54 AM PDT by devolve (- Tell VLADIMER after my ERECTION I have more 90% more FLEXIBILITY - I need more SPACE - Obama Jr -)
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To: iontheball

Before Nevada Cattle Rancher Standoff, BLM Killed Off Hundreds of Endangered Tortoises

Endangered tortoise used as justification to assault Nevada rancher’s property rights

Despite the imminent closing of the DTCC’s doors due to lack of funding, the BLM has gone on to round up about 234 of rancher Cliven Bundy’s cattle at gunpoint claiming they’re helping protect the tortoise and also claiming he owes them over $1 million in grazing fees.
At the same time, seizing and impounding all 908 of Bundy’s cattle would cost the government an estimated $3 million, a figure that would keep the DTCC thriving for another three years.
Interestingly, the BLM is also facing a lawsuit from various environmental groups suing on the grounds that the bureau “has failed to track the effects of a wide range of human activities in the California desert on the tortoise..”
All of this illustrates how the BLM’s dispute with Mr. Bundy has nothing to do with saving or protecting tortoises (most of which were given to the facility by people who owned them as pets, and which the BLM is either killing or releasing into the wild – animals raised in captivity don’t usually fare well in the wild) as they claim, and everything to do with making an example out of Mr. Bundy for having the gall to stand up for his property, bullying him into submission by brute force.

http://www.infowars.com/before-nevada-cattle-rancher-dispute-blm-was-euthanizing-endangered-desert-tortoise/


11 posted on 04/12/2014 5:49:27 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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Clark County, NV county commission Tom Collins’ email (in case you want to advise him on burial plans):
ccdistb@ClarkCountyNV.gov


12 posted on 04/12/2014 5:52:51 AM PDT by N4EF
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To: mazda77

Our place here in West TX looks like a tropical forest compared to that area around Vegas and we can only run about 15 head a section. In a bad year we drop it to 10.


13 posted on 04/12/2014 5:53:07 AM PDT by Dusty Road
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To: Dusty Road

You are exactly on spot. This has nothing to do with cattle or even a friggin turtle.


14 posted on 04/12/2014 5:57:57 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: iontheball

Bookmark


15 posted on 04/12/2014 6:11:44 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: iontheball

That tortoise dies off in areas without cattle. It’s in the government’s own statistics. This is simply a power play by oppressive government to show the people who’s boss. The Founders would be ashamed of us for allowing these blatant atrocities against our fellow citizens to go unchallenged.

Where are the “conservative leaders,” by the way? I haven’t seen any of them standing with the ranchers and facing the dogs and snipers. It’s easy to go on Fox and talk about defending freedom, but actually defending freedom on the ground is too risky for these sun-shine soldiers.


16 posted on 04/12/2014 7:11:04 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: iontheball

This is about getting cattle off the range so the price of beef gets too high for me and thee.

This is about ChiCom solar ranch projects.

This is about gas and oil leases.

This is about open subjegation of a sovereign state by a totalitarian dictatorship and UN Agenda 21.

Welcome to the machine.


17 posted on 04/12/2014 8:50:08 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: tcrlaf

Nevadan Named BLM Chief - Senate Confirms Former Reid Adviser

Kornze was raised in Elko and is a former senior adviser to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. He joined the BLM in 2011 and has been leading the agency as principal deputy director for the past year.

http://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2014/04/09/nevadan-named-blm-chief/

HARRY REID’S SON REPRESENTING CHINESE SOLAR PANEL PLANT IN $5 BILLION NEVADA DEAL

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/09/04/Harry-Reid-s-Son-Representing-Chinese-Solar-Panel-Plant-In-5-Billion-Nevada-Deal


18 posted on 04/12/2014 9:10:49 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: iontheball

If they cared about the Desert Tortoises, they would not be killing them by the hundreds after closing a preserve. This isn’t about tortoises, it’s about something else. Most stories are about Harry Reid’s solar power buddies, I saw another story about Harry wanting to get rich on fracking in the area.

Whatever it is, it’s about lining Harry Reid’s filthy pockets.


19 posted on 04/12/2014 9:21:43 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: iontheball

Where the Hell is the Governor? He should issue orders to the State Police and Sheriffs departments to arrest any federal agent found in that area if they are not gone in 24 hours.

And where is Dean Heller(R) (the OTHER Nevada Senator) in all this?


20 posted on 04/12/2014 10:22:25 AM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: McGruff

“The most complete data is from the Beaver Dam Mountains. Woodbury and Hardy reported a tortoise population density of 150 per square mile in 1948. BLM reduced cattle grazing a few years later and eliminated cattle in 1970. Coombs reported a tortoise density of 39 per square mile in 1974. In these 26 years cattle use was reduced 100 percent and tortoise numbers were reduced 74 percent.

“These tortoises were doing so poorly a veterinarian, Dr. Jarchow, was consulted. He reported all six specimens were suffering from osteoporosis caused by a protein deficiency in their diet. Dr. Jarchow examined five specimens from the same mountains that shared their range with cattle. He reported these specimens were all healthy and well nourished.

“The historical record proves conclusively that tortoise thrive when cattle are on the range with them and without cattle grazing they are always malnourished and unhealthy and their numbers plummet.

http://www.vinsuprynowicz.com/?p=80


21 posted on 04/12/2014 11:27:32 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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