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Cliven Bundy is not a righteous man, but there's more to the BLM story
The Thanks Project ^ | 04/15/2014 | Steve Berman

Posted on 04/15/2014 6:50:41 AM PDT by lifeofgrace

The Bureau of Land Management is the primary "property manager" for the United States. It obtains its authority directly from the Constitution, and in fact, prior to that, the Articles of Confederation. There has been an unbroken chain of Federal management of public lands since the founding of our country, first by the Treasury Department, then the War Department, followed by the General Land Office, and more recently, the BLM.

In the case of Bundy, the odds and the law are most definitely stacked against him. What we must consider, as policy, is how the Federal government manages its considerable land holdings. Remember, Constitutional authority to own, dispose and regulate land is vested in the Congress, not the Executive Branch. Our Congress, throughout the years, has ceded regulatory authority to an ever-growing bureaucracy of departments, agencies, bureaus, and offices, each with its own (and some overlapping) fiefdom. This effectively emasculates Congress' power and allows the President and his administration to order, by fiat, which land is protected, which land is designated, and even seize land under present laws protecting wildlife, the environment, historical sites, and Native American rights, not to mention lands designated for the armed forces.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: blm; blogpimp; bundy; clivenbundy; nevada; ranch
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1 posted on 04/15/2014 6:50:42 AM PDT by lifeofgrace
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To: lifeofgrace

http://www.argentco.com/htm/f20010701.476442.htm


2 posted on 04/15/2014 6:51:50 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: lifeofgrace

I’m going to post an article on Klamath and the Farmers...because it mentions first in, first rights and may be relevant to the Cattle grazing situation.


3 posted on 04/15/2014 6:56:23 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: lifeofgrace
The title starts out saying “Cliven Bundy is not a righteous man” but said nothing about in the beginning of the rant. Name calling with out backup will not get me to read an article. Bundy seems more righteous than the author.
4 posted on 04/15/2014 6:56:33 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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http://articles.latimes.com/2013/may/07/local/la-me-klamath-20130507


5 posted on 04/15/2014 6:56:39 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: lifeofgrace

“The Bureau of Land Management is the primary “property manager” for the United States. It obtains its authority directly from the Constitution”

There is evidence that is a totally false statement. That the Fed Gov is prohibited from owning land which belongs to the state at the time of admission.


6 posted on 04/15/2014 6:57:24 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: lifeofgrace

The real problem in this episode....landlines conceived in the 1870s, historical trappings left over from the Roosevelt era (not FDR but Teddy), and inability to grasp that great portions of the western states (unlike the eastern states) were simply deemed to forever remain federal property instead of being sold off.

This has been brewing for decades. You’ve got water rights all screwed up because the federal government stepped in and did things that state just wouldn’t do or they were so corrupted that they couldn’t do them.

My suggestion? For every state with over twenty-five percent of the state owned by the federal government....return that portion to the state government with two options. They either rent the property out or they sell it in 500-acre tracts to people who must live on the property for three years to get full ownership. Downsize the BLM authority by half and within a decade....dissolve the BLM entirely. The idea we need federal property to remain like this....for the next ten thousand years...is a joke.


7 posted on 04/15/2014 6:57:24 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: lifeofgrace

“Remember, Constitutional authority to own, dispose and regulate land is vested in the Congress, not the Executive Branch.”

Not even congress can regulate what property belongs to the State. This is the scam.

It is TIME to DownSize DC! Close Entire Rogue/Unconstitutional Departments including their SWAT Teams.


8 posted on 04/15/2014 6:59:33 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: lifeofgrace

Thanks Project?

I don’t know what that is, but from the non-sequitar of the title of the piece and the introductory paragraph presented, I say no thanks.


9 posted on 04/15/2014 6:59:46 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: lifeofgrace

The Chinese want their promised land sterilized of any irritating pestilence that will harm or destroy their precious solar power plants.


10 posted on 04/15/2014 7:01:36 AM PDT by Spartan302
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To: pepsionice

This needs to be resolved in the courts—who really owns the land? Where was the state of Nevada on this issue? Where was the Governor—He should have been with the ranchers. Looks like a 10th Amendment issue to me.


11 posted on 04/15/2014 7:01:48 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: mountainlion

Personally, I think it’s just blog pimping of a fashion. The title, like you said, has no substantiation from the limited information provided. I’m not gonna go to that sight just on a newbie’s say so..


12 posted on 04/15/2014 7:07:48 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: lifeofgrace

Is not a righteous man-—what does that even mean? He’s a lot more righteous than the government thugs out to get him.

I’m not clicking on your link; I don’t want a bunch of bugs and malware.


13 posted on 04/15/2014 7:14:07 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: lifeofgrace

What stopped you from posting the full content?


14 posted on 04/15/2014 7:14:18 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: lifeofgrace

Excerpting your self-authored blog?

If you have something worth saying, why don’t you post it here and share with the whole class?


15 posted on 04/15/2014 7:15:46 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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What stopped you from posting the full content?

Yeah! What he said.

16 posted on 04/15/2014 7:20:15 AM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: lifeofgrace

Go to hell you piece of shit newby!


17 posted on 04/15/2014 7:24:40 AM PDT by dalereed
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Hey! Don’t candy coat it!


18 posted on 04/15/2014 7:25:48 AM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: Texas Fossil

The notion that this land belongs to the state is incorrect. Upon admission to the Union, Nevada, as were other new states, certain unallocated lands in accordance with the Northwest Ordnance of 1787. Instead of receiving the traditional section from each township, Nevada negotiated to accept a certain acreage of their chosing, all of the rest remained federal property. All of that that has not been disposed of in the intervening years remains the property of the federal government. The Constitution, the law, and precedence all agree on this.

This is a good article that draws on information provided by the Heritage Foundation. The fight should not be some baseless argument over who owns the land, but how the federal government is abusing its authority and manipulating legislation to enact policies that the Congress never intended or authorized.


19 posted on 04/15/2014 7:34:02 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
These videos are for people who don't yet understand why Cliven Bundy broke his agreement with the BLM. They show why the BLM should not even be managing the public lands of Nevada or any other state.

1of3 Stephen Pratt speaking to Sheriffs at WSSA conference

2of3 Stephen Pratt speaking to Sheriffs at WSSA conference

3of3 Stephen Pratt speaking to Sheriffs at WSSA conference

Here's one that shows why the Sheriff of Clark County is duty bound to keep the BLM and all Federal agents from arresting Cliven Bundy.

Steven Pratt, Bound by Oath to Support THIS Constitution,/a>

20 posted on 04/15/2014 7:44:37 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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