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A Different Take On Jackie Robinson
http://leomcneil.net/2014/04/16/a-different-take-on-jackie-robinson/ ^ | April 16, 2014 | Leo McNeil

Posted on 04/16/2014 7:28:08 AM PDT by LeoMcNeil

Yesterday wasn’t just tax day, it was the 67th anniversary of Jackie Robinson breaking the baseball color barrier by playing for the Brooklyn Dodgers. For those games not washed away by rain or snow, teams wore #42 jerseys in his honor. ESPN, as usual, used the anniversary to lament the dwindling number of black baseball players. The number of blacks playing major league baseball has gotten extremely low in recent years. It goes right along with a massive decrease in the number of black kids playing baseball and going to baseball games. In many ways the decrease in black interest in baseball dates back to Jackie Robinson.

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TOPICS: History; Politics; Sports
KEYWORDS: baseball; blogpimp; jackierobinson; racism
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To: Salvavida

I would disagree with the notion that baseball requires more discipline than football. Historically the negro leagues offered very competitive baseball.


21 posted on 04/16/2014 7:59:08 AM PDT by LeoMcNeil
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To: LeoMcNeil; humblegunner

The reason fewer Black kids want to play baseball is because of the disproportionate number of MLB Players who are known Blog Pimps.

These poor kids are trying to elevate themselves out of he cycle of moral turpitude and sociopathic dependency that is endemic im blog pimpery.


22 posted on 04/16/2014 7:59:19 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: kidd
I would conclude that less black athletes simply don’t want to play baseball. They choose to use their skill sets on other sports or in other professions.

That is clearly the case. Baseball, compared to football and basketball, requires patience and a certain discipline.

There is no "instant gratification" in baseball. A player does not move directly from college to the "big leagues". Natural athleticism is important in baseball, but there remains several layers of acquired skills that must be mastered as well.

Playing the game correctly involves more self-discipline than other sports -- there is no "showtime" in baseball. Moreover, there is an unspoken "code of conduct" among the players that reinforces this self-discipline.

23 posted on 04/16/2014 8:02:42 AM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media -- IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: LeoMcNeil
From the article: Scan the audience at a MLB game and you’ll see a lot of white families but few black families.

Maybe that is because there are few black families. No Dad to play catch with in the backyard means all the young black athlete can do is practice his grandstanding for when he makes a tackle or run, basket or rebound.

Add to that the fact that baseball requires a lot of practice and game experience to reach MLB level as compared to someone dropping out of college as an underclassman to enter the NFL or NBA draft and it is easy to see why the black athlete follows the path of least resistance.

More often than not, a baseball player is capable of making a Major League 25 man roster after his 800th to 1000th lifetime game from Little League, Senior League, High school, American Legion through college and/or the minors.

And then there is a little thing called trouble with the curve...

24 posted on 04/16/2014 8:06:08 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: Salvavida
Here's a thought: baseball takes more dedication and discipline than other sports

Colleges don't give monster scholarships for baseball and they don't protect players from prosecution when they misbehave. There's no shortcut to vast wealth in baseball. It takes years and problem players are mostly weeded out long before they get a shot.

The Detroit Tigers did sign Ben Verlander and Torii Hunter JR. right out of high school but it was strictly for development and only after they get out of college. Its unlikely that either will get a shit at the big show for another 5 or 6 years.
25 posted on 04/16/2014 8:07:52 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
Its unlikely that either will get a shit shot at the big show for another 5 or 6 years.
26 posted on 04/16/2014 8:10:39 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: LeoMcNeil

Advancement to major league baseball can be a lengthy process. The transition from HS to collegiate & the minors can take years. Money is limited and the chances of career-ending injury are always looming in the background.

Contrast this with basketball. An economically disadvantaged player who is also physically gifted can play as little as 1 year of college basketball before going into the NBA lottery. Plus that rookie contract could set you up for life.

Football also offers accelerated paths to the NFL though the money is not entirely guaranteed.

For many teenage athletes playing professional sports is about the lifestyle. I just to think that professional baseball offers quite the same in that area.


27 posted on 04/16/2014 8:13:14 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: LeoMcNeil

Leo, who-—besides you and, possibly, a bunch of power-mad federal bureaucrats and race hustlers-— even cares about what races are or are not represented in professional?

Why SHOULD anyone care? I thought we all bought in to what Martin Luther King, Jr. said way back in the 60s.


28 posted on 04/16/2014 8:16:52 AM PDT by Walrus (I love the America that used to be ---I hate the America that now IS!)
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To: LeoMcNeil

With some exceptions it takes class to play baseball, I see little in football and none in hoops.


29 posted on 04/16/2014 8:18:41 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

One thing I’ve noticed among black MLB players is a fairly high rate of players who have both parents who are still married.


30 posted on 04/16/2014 8:22:41 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: LeoMcNeil; cripplecreek
Read Cripplecreek's post. He's right: there is no safety net for baseball prospects. Screw up? Fine. There are a hundred Dominicans that are not afraid of hard work. And hundreds more Venezuelans, and Cubans, if the Dominican isn't good enough.

And I think we can agree that the era of the negro league was decidedly different than today; thus an unfair comparison. The negro community isn't producing the men that rose from that era: that is my point.

31 posted on 04/16/2014 8:23:02 AM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

One of the best sports articles I have read is how Jason Heyward of the Braves made it to pro baseball. His commitment from the age of 15 was incredible, but another aspect highlighted was the amount of money and time it took from his family.

His dad drove 80 miles per day to have him practice and play. He played on one of the best travel team organizations in the country, East Cobb in the Atlanta area. He practiced with his team 6 days per week, even after games they had practice. In addition, from the age of 15, he hit 1,000 balls per week, apart from what they did at team or school practice. He is a great natural athlete, and still had to do all of that to make it to the big show.

All of those things, as I can personally attest with a promising young player myself, costs money and a time commitment from the whole family, which I’m sure is abundantly present in the inner city communities.

Those wringing their hands about the lack of black players should take a realistic look at the incredible effort it took from Heyward and his family, and see how that is the limiting factor for most other players, regardless of race. It takes a lot of time and money in the USA to develop the skills to be a pro-baseball player.


32 posted on 04/16/2014 8:27:30 AM PDT by Ironfocus
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To: Ironfocus

“....which I’m sure is NOT abundantly present in the inner city communities.”


33 posted on 04/16/2014 8:30:43 AM PDT by Ironfocus
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To: Walrus

I personally couldn’t care less if there is a massive increase or decrease in the number of blacks playing baseball. Numbers don’t particularly matter. I’m more interested in the reasons why there are fewer blacks because it isn’t racism keeping them from playing baseball. I’m seeking to offer a reason why blacks choose not to play baseball.


34 posted on 04/16/2014 8:32:07 AM PDT by LeoMcNeil
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To: LeoMcNeil
How about the role of Title IX? In the name of “fairness” colleges have tried to achieve gender balance by cutting scholarships. Baseball with a roster of 25-30 gets less scholarships than women's basketball where the national champions only list 11 players on their roster.

Former MS State coach Ron Polk was crucified for bringing up how Title IX was playing a role in ensuring that poor inner city kids would be eliminated from college baseball.

35 posted on 04/16/2014 8:32:28 AM PDT by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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To: cripplecreek

Baseball is passed from father to son.

Which is probably the number one reason you don’t see many blacks

Also, there’s very little showboating in baseball. The Mannies being Mannies are few a far between. For some reason Blacks are drawn to that.

Catch a pass in the endzone, even if you are down by 21 you get to dance around like a fool.

Hit a homerun and jog too slowly around the bases, or stand there admiring it for too long and you will be plunked the next time up.


36 posted on 04/16/2014 8:32:54 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: qam1

Baseball is an interesting generational game that ties generations of spectators together.

My great grandparents were all serious Tiger fans and were always happy to talk about baseball till the day they died.


37 posted on 04/16/2014 8:44:38 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Ironfocus
East Cobb in the Atlanta area.

Which is kind of funny in itself because Ty Cobb is quite unfairly painted as a racist through the lens of today. He was just plain mean spirited but I see no evidence that he single blacks out for his fits of rage.

As I understand it, Cobb built a hospital for blacks and staffed it with black doctors that still exists (in its desegregated form) in Atlanta today.
38 posted on 04/16/2014 8:54:07 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: LeoMcNeil; shibumi
I’m more interested in the reasons why pimping my blog.

I’m seeking to offer a reason get some blog hits.

There, fixed it for you.

39 posted on 04/16/2014 9:00:50 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: LeoMcNeil

How about the fact that basketball can be played with just one net and a half court space but baseball needs a LOT bigger area;and kids are chased way from any lots big enough.And there just aren’t as many big open spaces as in days past.Especially there aren’t baseball sized lots in black urban areas. Plus the sight of young blacks or whites carrying baseball bats is likely to result in a call to police.

baseball has suffered due to the pressures that sports MUST be organized and supervised;when was the last time you saw kids anywhere playing baseball in the old fashion ?


40 posted on 04/16/2014 9:13:45 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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