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Today in Ukraine 16.04.2014 - The Miracle of Slovyansk
Twitter ^ | 4-16-2014 | WimLuyckx

Posted on 04/16/2014 1:06:10 PM PDT by tcrlaf

The Easter Miracle of Slovyansk today, Soldiers sent for war end up laying down their weapons, eating with the people and enjoying the spring day in the sun. The Alternative? Bombs and Massacre on an empty stomach. If all armies acted like this, World Peace would be the order of the day.


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KEYWORDS: civilwar; peace; russia; ukraine
Found on twitter. A photo recap of today's events at Slovyansk.
1 posted on 04/16/2014 1:06:10 PM PDT by tcrlaf
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6:53am BBC Newsworld - VIDEO: Villagers in Novoselovka in eastern Ukraine try to stop military vehicles
2 posted on 04/16/2014 1:07:49 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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BBC World Service-"Why did you come to our land?" - an uneasy standoff in Kramatorsk, east Ukraine
3 posted on 04/16/2014 1:10:11 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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Disconsolate Ukraine soldiers at Kramatorsk - they didn't want to fight.
4 posted on 04/16/2014 1:11:54 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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Balkan News- Ukraine Kramatorsk today. This is how soldiers with conscience look like..
5 posted on 04/16/2014 1:13:18 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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6 posted on 04/16/2014 1:14:12 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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Looks like the war is over.


7 posted on 04/16/2014 1:15:47 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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Herbert Mayer Bade- GOOD! Ukraine´s soldiers surrender to protesters, citizens bring flowers, PEACEKEEPERS, Congrats!
8 posted on 04/16/2014 1:16:09 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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Balkan News-Kids and women leaving toys and roses on Ukrainian tanks of soldiers who refused to attack unarmed civilians.
9 posted on 04/16/2014 1:17:34 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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Practically a picnic in Donetsk region ukraine
10 posted on 04/16/2014 1:19:00 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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Alexander Marquardt ABC News- Mood in Sloviansk totally relaxed, steady stream of parents taking pictures of their kids w/ militants
11 posted on 04/16/2014 1:21:12 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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Thank God, thanks for posting.

They’ve got enough tough economic times ahead with the coming US-EU-forced austerity.

They need privately-held small business, not billions in foreign loans from IMF, World Bank, etc., going to state projects.

At least they don’t have their own army attacking them on top of that !


12 posted on 04/16/2014 1:21:42 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: tcrlaf

That weakness will not stop the Bloody Red Army. That entire Ukrainian “Army” unit surrendered the firing pins to its sidearms to the Red Army Spetsnaz troops fighting out of uniform!


13 posted on 04/16/2014 1:36:21 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: tcrlaf

Will they give the Russians flowers, too?


14 posted on 04/16/2014 1:37:44 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: 2harddrive
Yep, looks like an awful lot of Spetznaz. You should be very frightened. Alfred de Montesquiou - 14 tanks encircled by pro-russian population in Kramatorsk, calling for paratroopers to defect
15 posted on 04/16/2014 1:45:08 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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A Ukrainian soldier interviewed by RIA Novosti in Slavyansk said the troops were told they are being sent against “Russian invaders who have taken the local population hostage and are waging war at us,” and that they must “free Donbas from occupants.”

“This morning, we started our attack, but the picture we saw in Kramatorsk turned out to be completely different. We saw in front of us a crowd of locals, mostly adults, women and men. They explained to us that there are no occupants here and there is no one to fight. Instead, they gave us food and talked to us,” the soldier was quoted as saying.

He added that the troops vowed “not to follow orders to shoot at these people.” Some soldiers chose to take the side of the locals, some decided to stay “neutral.” They are now “waiting what comes next.”
http://rt.com/news/ukraine-troops-withdraw-slavyansk-940/


16 posted on 04/16/2014 1:48:08 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: PieterCasparzen
They need privately-held small business, not billions in foreign loans from IMF, World Bank, etc., going to state projects.

Those natural gas discounts coming from Russia were also directed right into the wallets and purses of the little guys.

17 posted on 04/16/2014 3:17:47 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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Well, except now that the gas bill isn’t paid and they’re out of money, gas price increases for consumers are on the way this year.

I posted some other articles here about the “big squeeze” coming on the Ukrainian sheeple.


18 posted on 04/16/2014 3:22:17 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: tcrlaf

Pictures are identical to the peaceful Maidan of December and early January. Putin is just following up on his words of using civilians as human shields (as per his Crimea speech in March)

The challenge is, how do you flush out the Russian specnaz with minimal civilian losses. You could do it the way Yanukovych did it, start shooting and let God sort them out. Except these are regular soldiers and based on today, are unlikely to open fire on civilians (too bad Berkut had no such qualms).

You can’t really negotiate with these terrorists - Kyiv already had agreed to hold a referendum. Actually, there’s no one in Ukraine for Kyiv to negotiate with, and Putin appears to be aiming to bring the whole country down, not just Donbas.

So, it’s left to the “hearts and minds” of the population and whether they will support the Russian specnaz. The people in the pictures, who came out to impede the Ukrainian forces, are supporting the specnaz. There are many in Donbas who do not, but I doubt RT covered those pro-Ukrainian rallies, right tcrlaf? ;) So they need to make themselves heard even more.

I’m afraid Ukraine would be forced to inflict some civilian casualties, otherwise this Putin’s human shield tactic can be carried all the way to Kyiv and Lviv.


19 posted on 04/16/2014 3:41:15 PM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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To: tcrlaf

your quote—not to follow orders to shoot at these people-
is a crock of crap.

Ukraine military was sent to get out russian
terrorists, the little/big green men, with Russian guns;
and they were not ordered to shoot their own people.
That is why they sat down, talked/ate with their people.
You posted a link to russian tv, and passed on
putlers propaganda and lies.......................

Which russian paid internet group do you spam for.
The one operating out of the kremlin is spamming
our gun forum. You with them or one in st pete
or another one located in 20 cities,putler has spamming
about how great he is....Ed


20 posted on 04/16/2014 4:07:55 PM PDT by hubel458
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“your quote—not to follow orders to shoot at these people-
is a crock of crap.”

Really? were you there??
If so, then tell us what YOU think is the reason that an armored column of 14 APC’s and 150 men surrendered to 1 cop, three militants, and the crowd???


21 posted on 04/16/2014 5:13:43 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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If they so-called surrendered, then that means they didn't shoot them, like the article claims they had orders to do... I see no evidence of anyone surrendering, but just getting along with fellow countrymen, I see no one in cuffs, laid out on ground,locked up.... Fact is that photo people there taking pics to be jerry rigged around for russian propaganda, says it all..., just a big lie..some of the pics really show people kinda celebrating as if happy to see the army, instead of russian terrorists... Looks like everyone happy, happy , happy, happy, happy but russians,in kramatorsk
22 posted on 04/16/2014 6:35:59 PM PDT by hubel458
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Deny it happened all you like, but that won’t change the facts on the ground one bit.


23 posted on 04/16/2014 6:38:38 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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you upset there isn't more bloodshed between Ukrainians. Caused by these two spawns of satan....................
24 posted on 04/16/2014 7:13:18 PM PDT by hubel458
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Fear replaced communal atmosphere in Donetsk’s Jewish community as armed men handed out a leaflet Passover eve calling on Jews register their religion and property with the interim pro-Russian government or face deportation and loss of citizenship.

(VIDEO-AT-LINK)

A leaflet distributed in Donetsk, Ukraine calling for all Jews over 16 years old to register as Jews marred the Jewish community’s Passover festivities Monday (Passover eve), replacing them with feelings of concern.

The leaflet demanded the city’s Jews supply a detailed list of all the property they own, or else have their citizenship revoked, face deportion and see their assets confiscated.

Donetsk, a Ukraine province with 4.3 million people - 10 percent of Ukraine’s population - and 17,000 Jews, is home to much of the country’s heavy industry, and is thus the biggest prize of the eastern regions where pro-Russian separatists have captured government buildings in the past week.

The leaflet, signed by Chairman of Donetsk’s temporary government Denis Pushilin, was distrbiuted to Jews near the Donetsk synagogue and later in other areas of the city where pro-Russians activists have declared Donetsk as an independent “people’s republic”, defying an ultimatum from Kiev to surrender.

The leaflet was written in Russian and had Russia’s national symbol on it, as well as the Donetsk People’s Republic insignia.

“Dear Ukraine citizens of Jewish nationality,” the flyer began, “due to the fact that the leaders of the Jewish community of Ukraine supported Bendery Junta,” a reference to Stepan Bandera, the leader of the Ukrainian nationalist movement which fought for Ukrainian independence at the end of World War II, “and oppose the pro-Slavic People’s Republic of Donetsk, (the interim government) has decided that all citizens of Jewish descent, over 16 years of age and residing within the republic’s territory are required to report to the Commissioner for Nationalities in the Donetsk Regional Administration building and register.”

The leaflet detailed what type of documents the Jewish citizens would need to supply: “ID and passport are required to register your Jewish religion, religious documents of family members, as well as documents establishing the rights to all real estate property that belongs to you, including vehicles.”

If the message was not made clear enough, the leaflet further stipulated the consequences that would come to those who failed to abide by the new demands: “Evasion of registration will result in citizenship revoke and you will be forced outside the country with a confiscation of property.”

To add insult to injury, the leaflet demanded the Jews pay a registration fee of $50.


25 posted on 04/16/2014 9:33:40 PM PDT by hubel458
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How do you know those weren’t Russian agents passing out those leaflets?


26 posted on 04/16/2014 9:34:46 PM PDT by dfwgator
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It seems like this bunch under russian control passed
them out.They are ethnic russians many say..—

In a response to a request by a Ukrainian Jewish website, Pushilin, the interim government’s regional chairman, confirmed that the flyers were distributed by his organization, but denied any connection to the leaflet’s content.

Been speculated that the Soviets murdered far more Jews than Hitler did. However we don’t have photos because they didn’t loose the war...


27 posted on 04/16/2014 10:17:10 PM PDT by hubel458
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To: dfwgator

Exactly


28 posted on 04/16/2014 10:43:09 PM PDT by Reaganite Republican
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In fact this leaflet is allegedly coming from a pro-Russian governor of so-called ‘People’s Republic’.


29 posted on 04/17/2014 12:28:41 AM PDT by wetphoenix
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~In a response to a request by a Ukrainian Jewish website, Pushilin, the interim government’s regional chairman, confirmed that the flyers were distributed by his organization, but denied any connection to the leaflet’s content.~

What does this it mean in your opinion? Does this guy’s comment confirm an authentity of this rag or not?

BTW, your translation of this leaflet is incorrect, probably to make it sound more ‘racist’ by alleged author.


30 posted on 04/17/2014 12:34:28 AM PDT by wetphoenix
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Why would you say alleged, as the guy said
his people had them and put them out.

If he says they passed them out that means
they are real. Not something I wrote up....

Is this like the great libturds deal,ocare, where we won’t
know what is in it until we put it in motion...

I don’t translate languages, but there is
piture of flyer in other thread.Are you russian
translater?? ED


31 posted on 04/17/2014 1:17:45 AM PDT by hubel458
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Go back to his comment and he only said they have ‘issued leaflets’. No one actually asked about content but it passes as he confirmed he have issued that exact leaflet.

It is a perfect example of liberal Pravda-style journalism and you are perfectly okay with that.


32 posted on 04/17/2014 1:31:30 AM PDT by wetphoenix
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~I don’t translate languages, but there is
piture of flyer in other thread.Are you russian
translater?? ED~

I can read Eastern Slavic languages.
That was translated as a ‘Pro-Slavic’ in your comment actually translates as ‘True (Right) Christian’ aka ‘Orthodox’.


33 posted on 04/17/2014 1:34:40 AM PDT by wetphoenix
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