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FBI Visiting Gun Shops to Investigate “People talking about Big Government”
SHTF Plan ^ | April 15, 2014 | Brandon Turbeville

Posted on 04/16/2014 8:01:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

In keeping with the tradition of the FBI’s position on gun rights, it appears the Bureau is working overdrive to monitor and harass gun owners and the gun shops that sell to them.

While government surveillance of gun purchases and gun owners is nothing new, a recent visit by an FBI Counterterrorism agent to a Columbia, South Carolina gun shop has only reinforced the knowledge that the U.S. government is growing more and more concerned by the prospect of a well-armed populace – particularly one that prefers to live without constant government interference in their personal lives.

While the narrative surrounding “counterterrorism” operations used to eviscerate civil liberties after 9/11 was initially based upon the threat of Muslim fundamentalists, that narrative has clearly shifted to a focus on gun owning, law-abiding American citizens – both those who are politically active and those who are blissfully ignorant of current events.

For many, this shift of focus has been quite the surprise. Thus, when the Columbia, South Carolina gun shop in question was approached by an FBI counterterrorism agent on Monday, April 14, the individuals who spoke with him were somewhat alarmed to realize that the agent’s concern was not fundamentalist Muslims but Americans who promote small government.

According to an individual who was present during the visit (this person will remain anonymous for obvious reasons), the agent pulled up in a regular vehicle in plain clothes and took a look around the shop as if he were considering a purchase before approaching the staff and announcing that he was with the FBI Counterterrorism unit.

“Never in a million years would I have thought this guy was a fed,” said the witness. “He was in a completely normal vehicle. Regular clothes. Everything. I would have thought this guy was just some downhome country boy.”

After showing proper identification, the agent told the shop owners that he was tasked with all the gun shops in the general area and that he was charged with investigating “suspicious purchases” in accordance with counterterrorism operations.

The suspicious purchases he mentioned, however, were completely normal transactions. This included, paying with cash, purchasing long guns, and other similarly innocuous behavior.

However, what surprised the owners the most was his statement regarding what he was most interested in tracking.

According to the witness, the agent stated, “If you see some Middle Eastern guy come in. You don’t have to be so worried about that. What we’re really looking for are people talking about being sovereign such as sovereign citizens or people talking about Big Government.”

The agent also mentioned that he had a spreadsheet of all the gun shops in the area.

After this brief chat, the agent left a flyer with the shop that listed some of the more generic and normal behaviors which they were expected to view as suspicious.

Some of these trigger behaviors are:

◾Payment in cash or someone else’s credit card.
◾Reluctant or unwilling to produce valid I.D.
◾Large purchases or unusual inquiries into buying in bulk
◾Lack of knowledge involved in firearms or product usage
◾Hints at illegal or misuse of explosives
◾New or unknown customers
◾Nervousness or evasiveness

In the end, while the visit to a local gun shop by an FBI Counterterrorism agent is no surprise, it should serve as a stark reminder that the U.S. government is vastly concerned about a well-armed populace. Gun rights have been gradually eroded in the United States for decades but the assault on gun rights has been ratcheted up to a new level by the Obama administration.

Still, those expecting a public declaration of total gun illegality and martial law confiscation will be wringing their hands in anticipation for a very long time. Of course, while they wring their hands and anticipate the declaration of outright war against gun owners, their guns are being slowly stripped from their hands in an incremental fashion. Slight rule changes and isolated confiscations will continue to take place over time until the public has been properly acclimated to them as a fact of life, at which point the public’s line in the sand will be moved slightly forward once more. Again, the line will be crossed, but only slightly. Eventually, Americans will wake up to find themselves completely disarmed and neutered in a land in which they once believed they were free. At that point, with a completely defenseless population, the thin veneer of freedom will be lifted.

It is time for gun owners and gun rights activists to go on the political offensive. In 2014, it is no longer a legitimate mode of activism to be content to defend your already attenuated freedoms. It is time to make demands. It is time to throw compromise out the window.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Government; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; fascism; guncontrol; teaparty

1 posted on 04/16/2014 8:01:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe they should go to Congress and listen?


2 posted on 04/16/2014 8:01:46 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Intereferes With Justice. And Pay Your Liberty Tax Citizen.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“If you see some Middle Eastern guy come in. You don’t have to be so worried about that.......”

Isnt THAT SPECIAL!! no racial profiling THERE, Nope.

I see an EXABYTE of People on The National Mall VERY SOON!!


3 posted on 04/16/2014 8:04:12 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They’d probably shut down the gunshop if they walked in and heard Rush on the radio like our local one does


4 posted on 04/16/2014 8:07:12 PM PDT by digger48
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To: upchuck

SC ping!


5 posted on 04/16/2014 8:07:16 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama
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To: 2nd amendment mama

ping!


6 posted on 04/16/2014 8:07:25 PM PDT by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And this is supposed to surprise who?


7 posted on 04/16/2014 8:08:07 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Again, the line will be crossed, but only slightly. Eventually, Americans will wake up to find themselves completely disarmed and neutered in a land in which they once believed they were free.

Perhaps.

The Dem/libs have been engaging in a steady push to infringe on our right
to keep and bear arms for decades. And this is how it has been working out
for them in the last two decades...

And in the last two months... (Nov. 2012 and Dec. 2012)

And it continues...

And there is more...

And more...

MOLON LAVE! WE'LL BUY MILLIONS MORE. ;-)

8 posted on 04/16/2014 8:11:14 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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9 posted on 04/16/2014 8:16:49 PM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Of course they aren’t worried about the muslims; it’s the religion of peace. Good thing those bad NYC cops stopped spying on them. Sadly there aren’t any gun stores in NY for them to watch.


10 posted on 04/16/2014 8:31:41 PM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun control?)
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To: PistolPaknMama

This reminded me of something totally unrelated.

In Oct 2013 I started researching indoor hydroponics as a hobby (Tomatoes, Vanilla Orchids, Talapia and such) It wasn’t but a week after my first online purchase of hydroponic related stuff That I had a walk thru by two deputy sheriffs. They walked onto my property and when I queried them they said they saw smoke and were investigating. The spent about 10 minutes walking through the heavily wooded area in my 8 acre lot.

Now, you can tell when somebody is burning leaves in the area and there was no smoke or the odor of smoke, but basically nothing I could do about it.


11 posted on 04/16/2014 8:37:12 PM PDT by Usagi_yo (Islamunism = Facism + Islam : Islamunist = someone that adheres to Islamunism.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Federal retards.
Muslims and other assorted criminals don’t purchase firearms from legitimate gun stores.

sorry feds, can’t believe your garbage about protecting the citizenry. This is nothing but harassment.

Wonder where the FBI thugs shop? hmmm.


12 posted on 04/16/2014 8:41:51 PM PDT by Texas resident (The democrat party is now the CPUSA)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Insist these jerks leave the premises immediately. You have no reason to talk to them. ATF goons showed up in my shop when I registered as a machine shop with the state. They “heard” I was making guns. Yeah, just a coincident I get my Inc. And you show up.


13 posted on 04/16/2014 9:06:36 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: PistolPaknMama; 2A Patriot; 2nd amendment mama; 4everontheRight; 77Jimmy; ...
Thanks for the ping Mama.

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14 posted on 04/16/2014 9:46:26 PM PDT by upchuck (Support ABLE, the Anybody But Lindsey Effort. Yes, we are the ABLE!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance.”


15 posted on 04/16/2014 9:56:41 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: digger48

When the FBI agent announced himself, the shop owner should have said,

“Do you have a warrant?”
“Do you have probable cause?”
“Are you here to make a purchase?”
“No to all three? Then please leave!”

The outrageous part is the FBI govag basically demanding that respect be shown to any Muslim/Middle Easterner who enters.


16 posted on 04/17/2014 5:21:09 AM PDT by elcid1970
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well let em visit. They can go back to the gulag masters with the news flash that everyone is talking about big govt and not in a good way.


17 posted on 04/17/2014 7:58:37 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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