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Obama CONFISCATES ALL APACHE ATTACK HELICOPTERS From The Governors of ALL 50 STATES
Secrets of the Fed ^ | April 17, 2014 | secretsofthefed.com

Posted on 04/17/2014 9:59:31 AM PDT by Art in Idaho

As if the Obama administration’s purchase of more than 2 billion rounds of ammunition, and nearly 3,000 urban tanks, along with their unprecedented (and highly illegal) domestic spying program was not enough to convince you that the federal government is about to suspend the Constitution once and for all, the man who once vowed to run “the most transparent administration in history” has just rather inexplicably, ordered the U.S. Army to seize every Apache attack helicopter currently in use by the National Guard.

In all, the Defense Department will confiscate 192 Apaches from National Guard units around the country and give them to the active duty Army.

In exchange for the heavily armed and highly maneuverable choppers, Guard units will receive 111 UH-60 Blackhawk transport helicopters from the Army, Defense One reports.

Last week, U.S. Army Chief of Staff Gen. Ray Odierno testified before the Senate Armed Services Committee, claiming that the measure will save taxpayers $12 billion, over the next three years.

Of course, when one considers that this ‘cost saving’ move comes from an administration which regularly runs trillion-dollar deficits and, to date, has proposed no less than 442 tax increases since taking office in January 2009, the idea of saving money for the American taxpayer is a bit hard to swallow.

So, what could be another, more reasonable explanation?

The Apache, which began service in 1986, is armed with a 30 mm M230E1 Chain Gun (with 1,200 rounds), Hellfire anti-tank missiles, and 70 general-purpose 70 mm rockets. In short, it is capable of fending-off any enemy, foreign or domestic.

Obviously, these helicopters could pose a substantial obstacle to say, a tyrant drunk on his own power, with an army at his disposal.

With the recent, attempted seizure of the Bundy family ranch in Nevada by more than 200 armed federal officers, including many snipers, we know that the Obama administration is not afraid to use force against the American people.

Furthermore, considering the unprovoked attacks and murders of U.S. citizens on their own property by federal agents, such as the Ruby Ridge and Waco massacres, we also know that the federal government has no problem suspending due process and using lethal force on its own citizens. Couple that with the as yet, unexplained, massive arms buildup by the Department of Homeland Security, and the National Defense Authorization Act which allows the feds to arrest and detain any U.S. citizen indefinitely without charges, and even the most establishment-minded American should be able to see what is coming.

There are a few governors around the country who would not stand for martial-law being arbitrarily declared by this or any president, but without any teeth (i.e. Apache attack helicopters) what could they use to stop Obama’s tyranny?


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Military/Veterans; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: chopperswap; federalreserve; government; military; obama; paranoia; politics; secretsofthefed
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"When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." - Thomas Jefferson

So, is Obama planning his Waco? This time 200 million gun owners will respond.

1 posted on 04/17/2014 9:59:31 AM PDT by Art in Idaho
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To: Art in Idaho
In exchange for the heavily armed and highly maneuverable choppers, Guard units will receive 111 UH-60 Blackhawk transport helicopters from the Army

What do they plan on transporting?

2 posted on 04/17/2014 10:02:36 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Art in Idaho

I Love our Army and Air Force. Great Going Army. Little do they know ... Thank You.


3 posted on 04/17/2014 10:05:36 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: dragnet2

Bodies?


4 posted on 04/17/2014 10:06:18 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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Kudos Air Force. Standing By.


5 posted on 04/17/2014 10:06:34 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Art in Idaho
Gen. Ray Odierno is one of the good guys. I think 12 billion was sufficient reason to find funds in a depleted DOD budget.

Besides, Apaches will have little application in CW2 and 4th Generation Warfare.

I think we can back away from the ledge now.

6 posted on 04/17/2014 10:07:24 AM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: Art in Idaho

I question whether he has authority to do so (not that that would stop him). The Constitution gives rather specific direction as to the militia of the various states and how to arm, supply and train. This seems rather hokey.


7 posted on 04/17/2014 10:08:11 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: Art in Idaho

In other words, we “save” money by dipping into our reserves. Sweet!


8 posted on 04/17/2014 10:08:32 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Rusty0604

Detainees?


9 posted on 04/17/2014 10:09:05 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Art in Idaho
They don't want any states putting up resistance to fed overreach, like for instance the Bundy ranch.

10 posted on 04/17/2014 10:09:12 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: dragnet2
In exchange for the heavily armed and highly maneuverable choppers, Guard units will receive 111 UH-60 Blackhawk transport helicopters from the Army.

What do they plan on transporting?

Good point. . Three guesses folks. .

11 posted on 04/17/2014 10:09:32 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Art in Idaho

12 posted on 04/17/2014 10:10:38 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: Art in Idaho

CHANGE = Suspend the Constitution once and for all


13 posted on 04/17/2014 10:11:59 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Rebelbase
It sure feels like one minute to midnight. Continue to pray for America and prepare.
14 posted on 04/17/2014 10:13:01 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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BOOKMARK


15 posted on 04/17/2014 10:13:32 AM PDT by Faith65 (Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior!)
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To: Vaduz

In the name of God ... Never!


16 posted on 04/17/2014 10:14:19 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: dragnet2

“What do they plan on transporting? “

Bodies of the people killed by Apaches.


17 posted on 04/17/2014 10:15:13 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary")
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To: Art in Idaho

And some still don’t get it. Have no idea and are still playing around with their toys while America is in the process of being a dictatorship and eventually will destroy their toys. And the MSM are the biggest fool in America. They are destroying themselves. Fools.


18 posted on 04/17/2014 10:15:25 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: no-to-illegals

He’s working on it so far it’s working Soros may get his plan through with Obama&Co.


19 posted on 04/17/2014 10:18:08 AM PDT by Vaduz
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Listen up Air Force ... Here in my cold dead hands, I hold the next plan for the next club. In the mean time, Support Free Republic.


20 posted on 04/17/2014 10:19:35 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Art in Idaho

After this swap, the army will then give the Apaches to the BLM...


21 posted on 04/17/2014 10:21:28 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Art in Idaho

After this swap, the army will then give the Apaches to the BLM...


22 posted on 04/17/2014 10:21:28 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Logical me
And the MSM are the biggest fool in America. They are destroying themselves. Fools.

They will be the first ones rounded up. When are they going to 'step up' and do some real investigative reporting? If I were a journalist/reporter, I'd rather go down fighting than waiting for the 3 am knock on the door.

23 posted on 04/17/2014 10:22:29 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Art in Idaho

Maybe the governors of the States can take all those A-10 Warthogs off of the government’s hands, seeing as it doesn’t want them anymore.


24 posted on 04/17/2014 10:23:15 AM PDT by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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To: Art in Idaho
"It sure feels like one minute to midnight."

Better than the other day when it was about 10 seconds to midnight!


"A Psalm of David. Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight" Psalm 144:1

25 posted on 04/17/2014 10:23:45 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Amen Kart ... Amen.


26 posted on 04/17/2014 10:27:04 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Art in Idaho
In WWII Japanese were forced to be kamikazes. To resist would be immediate imprisonment or death. One man saluted his officers took off, circled around and sent every round he had in to the headquarters building......just saying....
27 posted on 04/17/2014 10:27:42 AM PDT by virgil283
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To: Alas Babylon!

in a related matter

Why is Obama pulling tanks out of Germany to place on U.S. soil?

http://www.examiner.com/article/why-is-obama-pulling-tanks-out-of-germany-to-place-on-u-s-soil?cid=PROD-redesign-right-next


28 posted on 04/17/2014 10:27:51 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: Alas Babylon!
After this swap, the army will then give the Apaches to the BLM...

I wouldn't put it past him. You know, I was just sitting here getting mad that we're even talking/thinking about all of this. The Bundy ranch stand, all the stuff on Nachum's list, Benghazi, IRS scandal, the Obamas, Fast and Furious, the Clintons, the march to socialism, Obamacare, the daily 'something every day.' Never had these thoughts and worries during Reagan's terms.

November 4, 2014! Hope that at least stems the tide. We'll see. . .

29 posted on 04/17/2014 10:31:47 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

“We are five days from fundamentally transforming the United States”

And who is “Obama”?


30 posted on 04/17/2014 10:31:50 AM PDT by Ray76 (Take over the GOP? You still beg! Forget them. Second Party Now.)
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To: Art in Idaho
U.S. Army Chief of Staff Gen. Ray Odierno

The consummate "YES" man.

31 posted on 04/17/2014 10:32:14 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Who but a TYRANT shoves down another man's throat what he has exempted himself from?)
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To: Kartographer
Yeah, getting back to 1 minute is giving us at least 60 seconds. . Prepare. .
32 posted on 04/17/2014 10:33:15 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Art in Idaho

I don’t pay much attention to idiots who run ludicrous blogs. Obama provides plenty of real ammunition without to venture into the absurd.


33 posted on 04/17/2014 10:33:43 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: Art in Idaho

If he can take their helicopters, is there any reason he can’t take their rifles and side arms, too?


34 posted on 04/17/2014 10:35:50 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: Art in Idaho
Ridiculous.

The Army needs them elsewhere in the world.Mp>Besides the Apache is no match for the birds the Military could deploy.

The Apache is not an asset to a Governor who chooses to oppose the US military.

There's only one protection against that: Small arms and the will to use them.

35 posted on 04/17/2014 10:36:48 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: MeshugeMikey
Didn't know about the tank transfer. So now we have no tanks in Europe? What would Patton say?
36 posted on 04/17/2014 10:38:13 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Ray76

he is nothing that resembles who he claims to be...!


37 posted on 04/17/2014 10:39:00 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: Art in Idaho

” I wanna kick that young whippersnapper back to kenya!!”


38 posted on 04/17/2014 10:39:39 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: Art in Idaho

it’s not like these apache pilots can just automatically fly these blackhawks. it’s not what they are trained on.

plus he’s taking attack craft and replacing with transport craft. hardly the same thing.

this is about what’s detailed in state dept pub 7277, freedom from war. these are going to be army assets not internal security force assets.


39 posted on 04/17/2014 10:40:35 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Kartographer

another amen brother...


40 posted on 04/17/2014 10:41:01 AM PDT by stockpirate (Only a tidal wave of tyrants blood will return our tree of liberty......)
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To: Kartographer

This is a beautiful photo of REAL Americans!


41 posted on 04/17/2014 10:42:34 AM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: dragnet2

Actually this appears to be a sensible reconfiguration of Army air assets. The National Guard is more likely in peacetime to need transport helicopters for the usual things they do stateside like disaster relief. The attack helicopters go with the regular army and are available for expeditionary assignments without calling up National Guard units.


42 posted on 04/17/2014 10:43:57 AM PDT by Procyon (Decentralize, degovernmentalize, deregulate, demonopolize, decredentialize, disentitle.)
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To: Art in Idaho

***The Defense Department will confiscate 192 Apaches from National Guard units around the country***

April 19,1775. Government attempts to confiscate the Militia arms.


43 posted on 04/17/2014 10:58:24 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: rjsimmon

I believe rjsimmon has a very valid point!

Article I, Section 8 give CONGRESS the power to “provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States ...”

The President is NOT empowered to arm or disarm the Militia, or what we call today the National Guard. If he wants to treat the National Guard as just another subdivision of the Army, then call them the Army and be done with it and leave the Militia to the States. Time to consider a divorce.

Then again, I don’t believe the President should have command of the military unless and until war (or something like it) is declared.

Again, Article I, Section 8 gives CONGRESS the power to “make Rules for the Governing and Regulation of the land and naval forces;” The President gets to play commander-in-chief only when a commander is required, not for day-to-day governance. That job belongs to Congress.

Guess that’s why our out-of-control tinpot wants his own army.


44 posted on 04/17/2014 10:59:31 AM PDT by DNME (This is the government our Founders warned us about.)
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To: no-to-illegals

Yes. They took the bait. Our plan worked. The Apaches are now within the military bases awaiting our activation sequence...lol


45 posted on 04/17/2014 11:01:43 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001

They did remember to install the override controls didn’t they?...lol


46 posted on 04/17/2014 11:03:21 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: DNME

Dad, served in the National Guard till drafted into the Army. Long Live Our Army, please Lord.


47 posted on 04/17/2014 11:03:25 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: jsanders2001

{{HUGS}} ... May We Long Play Our Music in the Sun.


48 posted on 04/17/2014 11:04:42 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
April 19,1775. Government attempts to confiscate the Militia arms.

April 19, 2014 on deck. What hath God wrought?

49 posted on 04/17/2014 11:08:14 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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Looking out New England town ... Yes, has all been done.


50 posted on 04/17/2014 11:11:45 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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