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Are Rabbinic Interpretations of the Bible Accurate?
Biblical Anthropology ^ | April 19, 2014 | Alice C. Linsley

Posted on 04/21/2014 4:54:57 PM PDT by Jandy on Genesis

Misunderstanding can result from the mechanical reproduction of previously published ideas either because those ideas are taken out of context or because they are based on factual errors. The way authors sort and select data, without verifying the source or checking the facts, leads to distorted interpretations. This problem must be anticipated in Bible interpretation where it is common to rely on what the rabbis have written.

As the Bible is viewed as a Jewish religious text, it is natural to seek rabbinic guidance. Christians tend to read the Old Testament through rabbinic sources. Many pastors use commentaries written by Christ-rejecting Jews. This is especially true among American Evangelicals. They appear to be unaware of the antecedents of Messianic expectation among Abraham's Nilo-Saharan ancestors. They are generally unaware that Hebrew is an African Language.

Rabbinic interpretations have influenced how Christians read the Old Testament from the beginning of the Church. Some early Christians agreed with the rabbis' interpretations, but often they did not. The Church Fathers condemned Jewish attempts to discredit the testimony of the Apostles and many others. They also attempted, some more successfully than others, to refute rabbinic interpretations of the destruction of the Temple in 70 AD, and rabbinic interpretations of Messianic passages, such as Psalm 101:1

The Lord says to my lord: “Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet.”

And Psalm 110:4. The Rabbinic community has made many inflammatory accusations against the Christian interpretation of this verse.

The Lord has sworn and will not change his mind: “You are a priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek.”

Some rabbis insist that Christians tampered with the passage. One contemporary Rabbi has written: “Psalm 110 represents one of the New Testaments’s most stunning, yet clever mistranslations of the Jewish scriptures...”

(Excerpt) Read more at biblicalanthropology.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Religion
KEYWORDS: belongsinreligion; delusional; fantasy; messiah; notreally; psalm110; rabbis; sectarianturmoil; talmud

1 posted on 04/21/2014 4:54:57 PM PDT by Jandy on Genesis
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To: Jandy on Genesis
They are generally unaware that Hebrew is an African Language.

Wrong.

2 posted on 04/21/2014 4:57:13 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Jandy on Genesis

Have you ever posted anything other that that written by Alice Linsely?

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:jandyongenesis/index?tab=articles

Sure looks like you are just promoting yourself like a scumbag blogpimp.

Any thoughts on that?


3 posted on 04/21/2014 4:57:35 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Jandy on Genesis

I would trust the ancient ones before I would trust a news reporter.


4 posted on 04/21/2014 4:59:20 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Jandy on Genesis
No one can be aware that Hebrew is an African language - because it is not an African language.
5 posted on 04/21/2014 5:00:20 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Jandy on Genesis

The old timers have much more knowledge of the context and ancient meanings behind the words. We can only guess because we do not live like the old ones.


6 posted on 04/21/2014 5:06:02 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: humblegunner

Scumbag?

Really now.


7 posted on 04/21/2014 5:09:48 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: Jandy on Genesis
They are generally unaware that Hebrew is an African Language.

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Probably because this statement is a gross error.

8 posted on 04/21/2014 5:13:34 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ifinnegan

Perhaps you might consider reading even the excerpt, if not the article.


9 posted on 04/21/2014 5:14:54 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: mountainlion
We can only guess because we do not live like the old ones.

Let's ask Helen Thomas. She may be from that time.

10 posted on 04/21/2014 5:16:35 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: ifinnegan

Look at the article history:

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:jandyongenesis/index?tab=articles

This critter is only here to promote itself and gain blog hits.


11 posted on 04/21/2014 5:20:05 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: trisham
They are generally unaware that Hebrew is an African Language.

Hebrew originated in the area now known as the Congo and was transferred to the Hebrew tribes through contact with Black Egyptian traders riding gliders into the desert sometime around 4000 BC. Originally, the Hebrew tribes spoke a dialect of Estonian but they had little use or understanding of some words like 'ice', 'snow' and 'refrigerator', so they dumped the Estonian and took up this funny language that you read from right to left.

12 posted on 04/21/2014 5:24:30 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: 17th Miss Regt

LOL!


13 posted on 04/21/2014 5:26:27 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Jandy on Genesis
Since Christ didn't place a high value on the Sadducees' and Pharisees' opinions why should we determine that Rabbis have the scriptures correct?

2 Timothy 3:16-17 King James Version (KJV)
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

Do you want any group making that decision for you?

14 posted on 04/21/2014 5:27:25 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Jandy on Genesis

Given how the King James version mistranslates Thou shalt not kill, why not.


15 posted on 04/21/2014 5:47:30 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (We should not fear our government. Our government should fear us.)
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To: Jandy on Genesis

“O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones those sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, just as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, and you would not have it!

Luke 13:34


16 posted on 04/21/2014 5:48:07 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (Up yours NSA !)
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To: Dogbert41

Yeah!

Everybody knows the Catholic Church, the Lutheran Church, Jehovah Witnesses, Joseph Smith, Michael Rood, and Joel Osteen, all have much more inspired and reasonable interpretations of the Bible than those goofy rabbis who have only 3000 years of learning!


17 posted on 04/21/2014 6:04:25 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Jandy on Genesis
Christians tend to read the Old Testament through rabbinic sources.

Um, no.

Protestant Christians might tend to do that. We Orthodox (and the Latins and the Copts and the Armenians and the Assyrians) read the whole of the Scriptures, of the both Old and New Testaments through the light of Christian Holy Tradition, which is often very much at odds with rabbinic sources. The Old Testament is seen as pointing to Christ, and all matters which require interpretation are approached in that manner. Rabbinic Judaism essentially defines itself in contradistinction to Christianity (for example, the one passage in the Jewish canon which is never read in synagogue is the "Suffering Servant" passage in Isaiah).

The Holy Apostles dealt with a judaizing heresy involving earthly food and drink. Preferring the interpretations of Christ-denying rabbis to those of the Fathers of the Church is a judaizing heresy involving the spiritual nourishment of the Holy Scriptures.

18 posted on 04/21/2014 6:28:21 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: Jandy on Genesis

Incorrect premise....it is not the Bible which is considered a Jewish religious text....that only applies to the Old Testament. The New Testament is a Christian religious document.

I don’t bother reading further when the premise is misplace. It guarantees false conclusions


19 posted on 04/21/2014 7:20:46 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Would like to see a citation on this piece of so called evidence


20 posted on 04/21/2014 7:24:05 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: wideawake
The favored term now for the language family which includes Hebrew and the other Semitic languages is "Afro-Asiatic." Some of the languages are indigenous to western Asia, others to northern and eastern Africa. There are five branches to the Afro-Asiatic language family: Semitic, Berber, Cushitic, Egyptian, and Chadic. Egyptian survives only in the form of Coptic (used in the Coptic Church the way Latin used to be used in the Catholic Church, but no longer used in daily life as a first language).

I don't know if there is any way to determine if the proto-language from which the later languages descend was spoken in Asia or Africa. The late Martin Bernal thought they started in Africa because there is a greater diversity of them on that continent.

As to Hebrew, after it developed as a language, being African, that would apply only to the time when the Children of Israel lived in Egypt.

21 posted on 04/21/2014 7:26:01 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: 17th Miss Regt
"Biblical Hebrew (Hebrew: עִבְרִית מִקְרָאִית), also called Classical Hebrew (Hebrew: עִבְרִית קְלַסִית‎), is the archaic form of the Hebrew language, a Canaanite Semitic language spoken in the area known as Canaan, roughly west of the Jordan River and east of the Mediterranean Sea. Biblical Hebrew is attested from about the 10th century BCE, and persisted through the Second Temple period (ending in 70 CE). Biblical Hebrew eventually developed into Mishnaic Hebrew, which was spoken until the 2nd century CE. Biblical Hebrew is best-attested in the Hebrew Bible, a document which reflects various stages of the Hebrew language in its consonantal skeleton, as well as a vocalic system which was added later, in the Middle Ages. There is also some evidence of regional dialectal variation, including differences between Biblical Hebrew as spoken in the northern Kingdom of Israel and in the southern Kingdom of Judah." This is what is commonly known
22 posted on 04/21/2014 7:26:21 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: bravo whiskey

What????


23 posted on 04/21/2014 7:26:53 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Jandy on Genesis
The history of scripture has been explored in prodigious depth by real scholars for centuries, and amateur bloggers like this pisky ex-priestess should not be trying it at home.
24 posted on 04/21/2014 7:45:46 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: 17th Miss Regt
Makes as much sense as the idiot blogger does.
25 posted on 04/21/2014 7:47:00 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Starstruck
There was never then and is not now any semblance of consensus among rabbis. Anyone can cherry pick a quote that agrees with their premise, if they are not too scrupulous, even among the ancient sources.
26 posted on 04/21/2014 7:49:17 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: bravo whiskey
Given how the King James version mistranslates Thou shalt not kill, why not.

Because everyone understands that the KJV is poetry, not translation.

27 posted on 04/21/2014 7:50:54 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Nifster

My post # 12 was not intended to be taken seriously.


28 posted on 04/21/2014 7:57:05 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Okay. Sorry my brain apparently isn’t registering properly this evening..... I was trying to make sense of it and was confused.....(but then I find myself in that state all too often these days)


29 posted on 04/21/2014 8:45:36 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: 17th Miss Regt; trisham; Nifster; humblegunner; Salamander; Slings and Arrows
Kernel of Truth are like the Nuts of a Blind Squirrel.
The having of them is tasting the fruitiness of perdition and false sources.

Although it is true that Ancient Hebrew was developed through the efforts of Apostle of Eris Dr. Van Mojo (Patron Saint of the Season of Discord)

But though he be African Hebrew is not only more like unto itself A Sacred Chao brought to the Middle East by Hung Mung, A Sage of Ancient China and Official Discordian Missionary to the Heathen Chinee.

Hebrew was then widely diasporated by Malaclypse the Elder

During the Mediterranean Walk-About Era.

But in the modernness of today, thorough understanding of Hebrew can only be appreciated completely when viewed (and heard) through the seeings of Zarathud the Incorrigible.

Zarathud expoundiates completely in his commandments (also known as the Several Strong Urges) to which he can be seen pointilliating above.

But Hebrew definitely did not emitiate itself from Africa.

30 posted on 04/21/2014 10:02:45 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: shibumi

Wow...gonna be one of *those* nights, eh?

To Eris human.


31 posted on 04/21/2014 10:04:42 PM PDT by Salamander (Agent Of Fortune)
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To: Nifster

I think it’s more correctly “Thou shalt do no murder” which is different from killing in war, etc.


32 posted on 04/21/2014 10:06:14 PM PDT by Salamander (Agent Of Fortune)
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To: Salamander; shibumi

All hail Discordia. Or maybe Dat Cordia.


33 posted on 04/21/2014 10:09:23 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Richard Warman censors free speech.)
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To: humblegunner
Any thoughst on that?

I agree with you here. Thanks for digging.
34 posted on 04/21/2014 10:12:50 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: Salamander

The meds just kicked in.


35 posted on 04/21/2014 10:13:06 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: PA Engineer; humblegunner
"I agree with you here. Thanks for digging."

Pardon my usurpinations, but I think Gunner might be catching a wink or two.

So on his behalf (Or his bewhole) let me just say .....


36 posted on 04/21/2014 10:19:59 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Jandy on Genesis
No. Rabbinic interpretations are not accurate. The Bible makes it clear that it is impossible for them to accurately reflect the scriptures. These men are unsaved and do not have the mind of Christ.
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness unto him, neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ." (1 Corinthians 2:14-16)

Their interpretations are not simply uninformed. They are deceptive. Again, the Bible makes this clear.

Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist that denierh the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father. But he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. (1 John 2:22,23

37 posted on 04/21/2014 10:37:35 PM PDT by nonsporting
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To: Slings and Arrows

;D


38 posted on 04/21/2014 10:38:20 PM PDT by Salamander (Agent Of Fortune)
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To: shibumi

You don’t say!


39 posted on 04/21/2014 10:39:02 PM PDT by Salamander (Agent Of Fortune)
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To: nonsporting

They were never accurate? Or were they only accurate until Jesus came?


40 posted on 04/21/2014 10:41:47 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: shibumi

Now that there is just plain funny


41 posted on 04/22/2014 6:47:46 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Salamander

You complaint comes from the changing times not the manner in which the scholars translated it. Read about the men who undertook the task before you discard with contempt


42 posted on 04/22/2014 6:48:59 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Salamander
The Septuagnt translation has ou phoneuseis.

Phoneuo is translated as "to murder, slay, kill, commit murder, put to death."

So either "thou shalt not kill" or "thou shalt not murder" are acceptable renditions.

43 posted on 04/22/2014 6:52:08 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: jjotto

I have a serious question for this thread: Do Rabbis claim divine inspiration for their interpretations of scripture or do they just logic it out?


44 posted on 04/29/2014 12:26:16 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
... Do Rabbis claim divine inspiration for their interpretations of scripture or do they just logic it out?

The meaning of Scripture is conveyed by learning from master to student going back to Moses. It is believed that Divine Inspiration vouchsafes faithful transmission, but merely claiming Divine Inspiration gets one nowhere among knowledgeable religious Jews. Quite the opposite. Sharp logic may be honored and have applications in Jewish law, but really doesn't determine interpretation of Scripture except in a general way. Tradition determines the meaning of Scripture.

45 posted on 04/29/2014 6:18:43 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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