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Divide and Conquer (Nyquist & Polish Journalist on Russia/Ukraine)
JR Nyquist ^ | 4/21/14 | JR Nyquist

Posted on 04/21/2014 7:34:47 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans

Divide and Conquer

Commentary for 21 April 2014

I recently asked a Polish journalist friend his ideas regarding the ongoing crisis in Ukraine. He gave me a five point answer: (1) The Ukrainians are fighting against Russia’s corrupt version of so-called capitalism; (2) Russia is trying to portray Ukraine as a non-state; (3) Putin is rebuilding the former Soviet Union’s empire, extending Moscow’s influence over specific economic sectors; (4) Moscow’s ultimate goal is to completely push the United States out of Europe, using a new anti-American ideology; (5) Meanwhile, Moscow relies heavily on the West’s readiness to compromise on everything and anything to preserve their access to Russian markets. There is truth in what my Polish friend says. The key point, above all, is the intention to push the United States out of Europe. This was a Soviet goal prior to 1991, and it remains unchanged to this day. In part, the threat of war in Ukraine is being used to produce a split in Europe. Talk of economic sanctions also has the same effect. While some politicians may wish to support Ukrainian sovereignty, as the United States and Britain are obligated to do in accordance with the Budapest Memorandum, other politicians think it ridiculous to sacrifice their own constituents’ economic interests for a country that has been under Russia’s thumb for centuries. Furthermore, a case is being made that Washington is responsible for stirring up trouble in Ukraine, and that Europe’s interests are more closely aligned with Russia’s. Arguably, this is the immediate objective of Moscow’s push into Crimea: To split Europe, split NATO, isolate America from Europe; and to demonstrate Europe’s need for what Russian officials call – “a new security architecture.”

Perhaps the incident most damaging in this regard, in terms of Moscow driving a wedge between America and Europe, came at the publishing of a phone conversation between Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt, which occurred prior to the overthrow of Ukrainian President Yanukovych. From Moscow’s point of view, this conversation between Nuland and Pyatt was made to order. It gives the impression that American officials were orchestrating the opposition in Ukraine from behind the scenes. Below is an excerpt from the Nuland-Pyatt conversation:

Nuland: What do you think?

Pyatt: I think we’re in play. The Klitschko piece is obviously the complicated electron here. Especially the announcement of him as deputy prime minister and you’ve seen some of my notes on the troubles in the marriage right now so we’re trying to get a read really fast on where he is on this stuff. But I think your argument to him, which you’ll need to make, I think that’s the next phone call you want to set up, is exactly the one you made to Yats [Arseniy Yatseniuk]. And I’m glad you sort of put him on the spot on where he fits in this scenario. And I’m very glad that he said what he said in response.

Nuland: Good. So I don’t think Klitsch should go into the government. I don’t think it’s necessary. I don’t think it’s a good idea.

Pyatt: Yeah, I mean I guess … in terms of him not going into the government, just let him stay out and do his political homework and stuff. I’m just thinking in terms of sort of the process moving ahead we want to keep the moderate democrats together. The problem is going to be Tyahnybok and his guys and I’m sure that’s part of what Yanukovych is calculating on all this.

Given the power and influence of KGB structures in the former Soviet Republic of Ukraine, it is unlikely that these Naïve American diplomats had any idea what they were doing. They certainly did not consider their phones were tapped. In fact, their every whisper was known to the bosses in Moscow. Such helpless creatures do not orchestrate the overthrowing of presidents. Ukrainian intelligence officials have publicly stated their finding that President Yanukovych did not flee to Russia voluntarily, but that he was kidnapped by the Russian GRU and taken to Russia as a prisoner/puppet. If this sounds absurd it is only because the reader is unfamiliar with Russia’s political method: that is, provocation. If the Ukrainian Revolution is a Russian provocation, undertaken with the object of splitting NATO, then we should expect to find evidence that the Russians created the Ukrainian Revolution themselves. We should expect to see a crack forming in NATO; for the Russians would never undertake a provocation unless they considered it likely to succeed. So it shouldn’t surprise us when Assistant Secretary of State Nuland tells Ambassador Pyatt (in their recorded conversation) about doing an end run around the European Union through the United Nations. Upon mentioning this, Nuland says:

TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: jrnyquist; russia; ukraine; ukrainecrisis
More at link. I recommend reading all his articles, actually.
1 posted on 04/21/2014 7:34:47 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Thank you. I appreciate the thoughtfulness of this article

2 posted on 04/21/2014 7:41:03 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Interesting excerpt from ye old Agreement...

The Parties shall develop and strengthen their cooperation on environmental issues, thereby
contributing to the long-term objective of sustainable development and green economy. It is
expected that enhanced environmental protection will bring benefits to citizens and businesses in
Ukraine and in the EU, including through improved public health, preserved natural resources,
increased economic and environmental efficiency, integration of environment into other policy
areas, and higher production as a result of modern technologies. Cooperation shall be conducted in
the best interests of the Parties on the basis of equality and mutual benefit while also taking into
account interdependence existing between the Parties in the field of environmental protection and
related multilateral agreements.
Cooperation shall aim at preserving, protecting, improving, and rehabilitating the quality of the
environment, protecting human health, prudent and rational utilisation of natural resources and
promoting measures at international level to deal with regional or global environmental problems,
inter alia in the areas of:
(a) climate change;
(b) environmental governance and horizontal issues, including education and training, and access
to environmental information and decision-making processes;
(c) air quality;
(d) water quality and water resource management, including marine environment;
(e) waste and resource management;
(f) nature protection, including conservation and protection of bio and landscape diversity
(g) industrial pollution and industrial hazards;
(h) chemicals;
(i) genetically modified organisms, including in the field of agriculture;
(j) noise pollution;
(k) civil protection, including natural and man-made hazards;
(l) urban environment;
(m) environmental fees.

1. The Parties shall, inter alia:
(a) exchange information and expertise;
(b) implement joint research activities and exchange of information on cleaner technologies;
(c) plan the handling of disasters and other emergency situations;
(d) implement joint activities at regional and international level, including with regard to
multilateral environmental agreements ratified by the Parties and joint activities in the
framework of relevant agencies as appropriate.
2. The Parties shall pay special attention to transboundary issues.
Gradual approximation of Ukrainian legislation to EU law and policy on environment shall proceed
in accordance with Annex XXX to this Agreement.

3 posted on 04/21/2014 7:49:05 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Moscow’s ultimate goal is to completely push the United States out of Europe, using a new anti-American ideology;

Obama is doing Putin's work for him.

4 posted on 04/21/2014 7:50:32 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
Obama is doing Putin's work for him.

Both hate the US. Both certainly don't want to the US have influence in Europe.

5 posted on 04/21/2014 8:25:03 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: dfwgator
We can see some of the basis of the "new ideology" in Russia's propaganda in Ukraine. Namely, in trying to pin the brutal acts of Yanukovich (which the GRU recommended to him in the first place) on the West, as well as depicting it as part of a greater strategy of the "NWO" to wipe out innocent Russia. IOW, we will be depicted as warmongers, with spies everywhere, and a danger to the world.

The real scary part about it is that this also sets us up to be as demonized as Hitler depicted the Jews (though the actual Jews won't be free of Russia's wrath either). It's basically the groundwork for a nuclear attack on the United States at some point, since we allegedly fired the first shot with our nefarious plots.

6 posted on 04/21/2014 9:24:46 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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