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Nevada Rancher Bundy Starts a Conversation We Need to Have
Guardian Liberty Voice ^ | April 26, 2014 | Paul Winters

Posted on 04/26/2014 8:13:11 PM PDT by dignitasnews

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1 posted on 04/26/2014 8:13:11 PM PDT by dignitasnews
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To: dignitasnews; wastoute; Impy; NFHale; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; GOPsterinMA; AuH2ORepublican; ...
Maybe, but Bundy’s approach looks almost intended designed to loose that debate.

It sounds like:

Blacks is lazy cos the gubment took them off the plantation and put them on welfare so they can sit on their porches and have lots of babies and they be better off as slaves again.
But those Mexicans are different, they come across our border illegally, yes I know they break our laws coming here, but damn they are hardworking, I seen em on my ranch and they is working hard, and they got families, they are always with them on picnics not on those city porches,
We should welcome them when they come here

Dr Ben Carson knows how to approach this in a way that doesn't make us sound like nuts.

2 posted on 04/26/2014 9:12:59 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: dignitasnews
I like this comparison:

" there is a distinct difference between a safety net and a spider web, "

3 posted on 04/26/2014 9:22:56 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: sickoflibs
If you think cattle ranchers are going to sound like
neurosurgeons when they speak that sounds nuts to me.
4 posted on 04/26/2014 9:32:13 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: TigersEye
RE :”If you think cattle ranchers are going to sound like
neurosurgeons when they speak that sounds nuts to me. “

Who says he has to?

He should stick to his cattle, and his related problems on land issues when talking on cam

And stay away from subjects he sounds retarded on,

If you are saying you know he sounds retarded talking about black issues,
but that we should agree with what he says anyway,
then that sounds nuts to me.

5 posted on 04/26/2014 9:43:52 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: sickoflibs

I don’t think he sounds retarded and I do agree with what he said.


6 posted on 04/26/2014 9:56:01 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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RE :”I don’t think he (Bundy) sounds retarded and I do agree with what he said.”

Yep, I can believe that.

But those Mexicans are different, yes I know they come across our border illegally, yes I know they break our laws coming here, but damn they are hardworking, I seen em on my ranch and they is working hard, and they got families, they are always with them on picnics not on those city porches,
We should welcome them when they come here across the border”

7 posted on 04/26/2014 10:20:40 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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LOL I see you deflected and changed the subject from his alleged racist
comments to some of his other comments. Nicely played Alinsky tactic.
8 posted on 04/26/2014 10:32:23 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: TigersEye

BUMP!


9 posted on 04/26/2014 10:36:47 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Graewoulf

Thank you! It’s nice to have support ... even without pinging a dozen people. lol


10 posted on 04/26/2014 10:39:45 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: TigersEye; All

The accusation that someone is a “racist” is all that the Democrats and the Democrat’s Left Stream Media need today for control a large population of people who dare to think and/or speak the same ideas as the accused “racist.”

Thus, the power of the word “racist” is valid only as long as no facts are required by the targeted population to substantiate the accusation by those who do the accusing.

If, someday, the accused is considered “innocent until proven guilty” by the facts, then the power of false accusatory words such as “racists,” “domestic terrorists” and other mind-control words will be relegated to the low level used by the school yard bullies who tried to manipulate all of us back in the day.

IOW, we, OURSELVES, allow ourselves to be manipulated because we have forgotten the words of wisdom from our early childhoods: “Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me!”

Wake up America! The Civil War and the Civil Rights Movement have long since been Won and Done!

Time to grow up America, reject the PC Word Police, mind-control, school-yard bullies of the Left!

If “We, the People,” stand for FREEDOM of speech, then insist that ALL, (especially the manipulators on The Left), listen as well as they speak!

It is time - - - time for a change.


11 posted on 04/26/2014 10:42:30 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Graewoulf

Hear hear!!!


12 posted on 04/26/2014 10:45:48 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: TigersEye

This is a subject that the PC Police do NOT want to be discussed, but IMHO, it is time - - - time for a change.

Krauthammer had a great observation on FOX this week: “Why do the Liberals send inner city Black kids to Berkley where the Black kids have a 54 % flunk out rate and the White kids have only a 14 % flunk out rate?

Why not send inner city kids to good Black schools, like Morehouse, so can they have a much better chance of a good education AND becoming more successful in our Society?” [Note: as best as I can remember what Charles said].

IMHO, we should learn from the past, hope for the best, and do the best we can with what is left of America. (Pun not intended).


13 posted on 04/26/2014 10:46:00 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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That is a typically lucid and informed Krauthammer opinion which is why it is disappointing to me when he is not on the Special Report panel. He really stepped in it about Cliven Bundy last week though IMO.

On Special Report he condemned “Bundy’s words” and in the next hour on On The Record, while discussing the subject of the SCOTUS decision on Affirmative Action, he made the exact same points that Bundy had made about destruction of the black community from liberal welfare policies. No substantive difference whatsoever but Krauthammer said it in a Harvard dialect.

14 posted on 04/26/2014 10:56:27 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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RE :”:LOL I see you deflected and changed the subject from his alleged racist comments to some of his other comments. Nicely played Alinsky tactic”

It was ???

I just posted your exact text:
I don’t think he sounds retarded and I do agree with what he said.”

You claim Alinsky was accurate and honest?

That is really scary

15 posted on 04/26/2014 11:01:20 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: sickoflibs

Do you have a point? Maybe we should we just wait for your buddies to arrive and make it for you.


16 posted on 04/26/2014 11:05:25 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Graewoulf

Sure, Bundy has every right to say what he said. Sure, what he said about government handouts/dependency/slavery is true - but there was a big conversation taking place, one the author says was a needed conversation that was being ignored by the major media. And Bundy’s comments (a rhetorical question is just another way of making a statement) stifled that conversation - and Harry and the Whores are tickled pink that everyone, including you, are talking about whether or not Cliven is a racist, was what he said true or not, and PC speech, and liberal tactics and EVERYTHING except what Harry and the Fed Raiders are doing. You’re doing exactly what they hoped you would do - meanwhile, Harry keeps whispering in China’s ear, and patting his son’s butt, and marginalizing Bundy, and pushing his cows off, and herding the turtles on.


17 posted on 04/26/2014 11:11:52 PM PDT by GilesB
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To: GilesB
It appears to be the only subject you are posting about.
There are other threads about Bundy and the BLM.

Judge Jeanine DEMOLISHES Harry Reid

18 posted on 04/26/2014 11:15:53 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: sickoflibs; Clintonfatigued

The guy made dumb remarks that allow an accusation of racism AND he made pro-shamesty comments that rival those of Jeb Bush, what a strange combo. And yet still, people attack you for mocking him.

The base need of some people to defend this guy no matter what really disturbs me.

It reminds of the Todd Akin diehards, only it makes much less sense because at least they had a decent reason (he was still our nominee for a Senate seat). This is just weird.

The sooner this guy is no longer news, the better.


19 posted on 04/26/2014 11:18:19 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: sickoflibs

He should stick to his cattle?

No, he should stick to whatever he wants to stick to.

Be very careful. The trap you’re falling for (I have no idea how you’re falling for it but you are) is the leftist trap where they get you to act like they act.

Bottom line—the only problems to be targeted in this whole Bundy story are:

1)the problem of government corruption

2)the problem of government tyranny

3)that hideous spawn of leftist ideology known as political correctness


20 posted on 04/26/2014 11:22:11 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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