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PATTON Understood the Scumbag Russians...
Reaganite Republican ^ | 1 May 2014 | Reaganite Republican

Posted on 05/01/2014 2:51:59 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican

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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

What you say is probably true. Americans were tired of war, but they carved up Europe and Iran and Iraq and then Israel. I mean, we’re paying the price now.


41 posted on 05/01/2014 9:55:17 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: Kennard

Reagan would be firmly opposed to Putin right now


42 posted on 05/01/2014 9:56:33 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Obama lied; our healthcare died.)
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To: Kennard

“Reagan was anti-Communist, not anti-Russian. Reagan was not a racist. He was a U.S. patriot who opposed Communism”
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What you say is technically correct but today’s Kremlin is the EXACT same KGB clique that enabled the USSR to exist!

Reagan wouldn’t have liked Putin expansionism any more than he did Soviet expansionism- they’re not longer a full fledged Evil Empire, but they’re working on it...


43 posted on 05/01/2014 10:06:39 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican
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To: Vaquero

Nations and people sure change fast in your world.

Russians are no longer Russian and the Americans are no longer the Americans, and all it took for them to replace each other in your mind, was an election.

Perhaps the Japanese can suddenly become something totally different from what they have been for thousands of years, in one election the Japanese might suddenly take on the national character of Australia, or perhaps Ireland.


44 posted on 05/01/2014 10:28:24 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Reaganite Republican
scumbag Russians communists

there you go.

the problem wasn't Russians... it was big govt commies and their ideology that drives them to capture more countries (assets, ie: other people's money).

Patton would have the exact same problem with 0bama and his ilk these days.

45 posted on 05/01/2014 10:35:13 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: sten

Patton would also see these Russian moves as obvious and from the same cloth...whether it be communist land grabs or ultra nationalist land grabs.


46 posted on 05/01/2014 11:45:37 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Russians to the Left of me, Useful Idiots to the Right...)
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To: Sam Gamgee

Makes me homesick. Like zer0 doesn’t play crony capitalist.


47 posted on 05/01/2014 11:54:09 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: ansel12

Get to your point
We have only been Ameican for a little over 200 years
You may not feel the republic is in danger because of one (or 2 ) election. I dont know. Time will tell. I do know we have an avowed Marxist in the white hut. We are on a precipice and I cannot worry about Russia unless they go after the Czechs or Poles or Germany. And even if they do I do not trust zer0 with our military. I’ll wait out the next 2.5 years before I feel comfortable with someone who controls the American military forces.


48 posted on 05/01/2014 12:04:54 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: rbmillerjr

as a people, Russians don’t respect weakness. if you’re weak, you should be relieved of your responsibilities ... and property


49 posted on 05/01/2014 2:28:28 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: sten

That’s true but what is different about todays’ Russia? Are you saying there are positives established by Putin that are superior to the USSR?

He’s a KGB thug and anti American Russian nationalist... the only differences between the USSR and today’s Russian Federation is scope and style of flag... HELLO!

Putin’s regime is much like what Mussolini did... corporatist nationalism. as with Obama. And they are ALL scum.


50 posted on 05/01/2014 5:27:10 PM PDT by Reaganite Republican
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To: sten

It certainly appears to me, if you look at Russian history, that it is a critical weakness of Russians, to need strong despotic leaders.


51 posted on 05/02/2014 6:19:05 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Russians to the Left of me, Useful Idiots to the Right...)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Why are so many people in the US more concerned about the integrity of Ukraine’s border than they are with the integrity of our own borders? Many of the clowns huffing and puffing over Crimea are the same people who wholeheartedly approve of Mexico’s defacto invasion and cultural/political annexation of the American southwest.


52 posted on 05/02/2014 9:30:53 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: ek_hornbeck

Conservatives can multi-task.

It is not in the security interests of the US to allow an avowed enemy of the US, trample over weaker nations.

Appeasement begets more Russian land grabs. We can make them pay an economic price, Russia has already pushed all of Europe closer to the Western sphere.


53 posted on 05/02/2014 10:15:05 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Russians to the Left of me, Useful Idiots to the Right...)
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To: rbmillerjr

It’s not about multi-tasking. The point I was making was that a lot of neoconservatives seem to care about the integrity of every border and the sovereignty of every nation except that of the US. The same people (John McCain, Bill Kristol) who are all up in arms about Crimea are the ones advocating policies that amount to an annexation of the US southwest by Mexico in everything but name.


54 posted on 05/02/2014 10:33:45 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: ek_hornbeck

Why conflate the two issues? They are separate.

The elites from both US Parties have decided they want open borders. We can disagree and fight them on the issue by electing others.

But this issue has nothing to do and is no reason to ignore the illegal annexation and incursion into Ukraine by Russia. And it is not in US security interests to allow an enemy to steam roll weaker nations without at least economic consequences.


55 posted on 05/02/2014 10:45:34 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Russians to the Left of me, Useful Idiots to the Right...)
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To: rbmillerjr
They aren't separate issues. Governments often use foreign wars and imagined foreign threats as a distraction from domestic problems.

Putin is clearly stirring things up Ukraine to distract the Russian population from his corrupt regime and their stagnant, tanking economy. And his tactic is working - his approval rating is skryrocketting in Russia.

Similarly, neoconservatives like to focus America's attention on imagined foreign threats (does anyone seriously believe Putin is going to attack US territory?) is a distraction from their own destructive policies. A case in point is someone like McCain - he makes himself sound all tough and patriotic by fussing over Crimea, while he hands over Arizona to illegals.

The Russians are letting Putin get away with using imagined foreign threats as a distraction from the havoc his policies have caused at home. Apparently many US politicians aren't above playing the same game.

56 posted on 05/02/2014 10:52:47 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: ek_hornbeck

“They aren’t separate issues.”

Factually, logically, and literally, they are indeed separate issues.

“Governments often use foreign wars and imagined foreign threats as a distraction from domestic problems.”

Putin’s naked aggression, certainly wasn’t coordinated with the US. This is a real event that needs to be responded to.


57 posted on 05/02/2014 11:18:44 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Russians to the Left of me, Useful Idiots to the Right...)
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