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Should Taxpayers Bailout Detroit?
Capitol Confidential ^ | 5/2/2014 | Jarrett Skorup

Posted on 05/06/2014 5:10:03 PM PDT by MichCapCon

The Michigan Legislature is currently debating whether or not to send extra state money to Detroit. There have been three polls taken on this issue with fairly different results.

Lambert, Edwards & Associates/Denno found very high support, depending on how the money will be spent. I cannot find the exact language of how the question was asked, but this was in the press release:

Sixty-one percent of the 600 likely voters polled statewide said they backed Snyder’s proposal to offer the funds so that Detroit pension cuts wouldn’t exceed 34 percent. A quarter of those polled opposed the move, while nearly 14 percent were undecided. The same LE&A/Denno Research poll asked voters if they would support offering the state funds as part of a deal that would protect the DIA from having to sell any of its art collection. Slightly fewer voters backed that plan, with 53 percent favoring spending the money and 30 percent opposing it. Seventeen percent were undecided.

Marketing Research Group showed 51 percent support, 37 percent opposed by asking:

"Would you support or oppose the State of Michigan using $350 million dollars of tobacco settlement money over the next 20 years to help the City of Detroit meet its pension contract agreements and prevent the city from having to sell any of its Detroit Institute of Arts paintings and artwork collection?” The Mackinac Center commissioned a poll through Mitchell Research and found 44 percent support to 49 percent opposed. Here’s how the question was asked:

Governor Snyder has proposed, and the Legislature is considering, passing a $350 million partial bailout of Detroit — paid over 20 years — using state money. Do you support or oppose using state money to bail out the City of Detroit? We believe that to be the easiest and fairest way to ask the question. Tobacco settlement money is completely fungible as state dollars — that is, it can be used for anything. So make no mistake, the money is coming from the state budget.

But the big dispute is whether or not this money is a “bailout.” Well, here is the definition of the word: “An act of giving financial assistance to a failing business or economy to save it from collapse.”

These are the poll results. You decide which is most meaningful.


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: detroit

1 posted on 05/06/2014 5:10:03 PM PDT by MichCapCon
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To: MichCapCon

No, no and again no.


2 posted on 05/06/2014 5:11:01 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: MichCapCon

A precedent is all we need to start the long line of similar cities who refuse to cut their benefits offered to it’s lazy citizens...


3 posted on 05/06/2014 5:14:02 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: MichCapCon

Absolutely not! Detroit was brought down by years and years of corrupt Democrats and union officials.

Why should I, or any other taxpayer, have to pay for their nasty deeds?

Let ‘em stew.


4 posted on 05/06/2014 5:15:30 PM PDT by upchuck (Support ABLE, the Anybody But Lindsey Effort. Yes, we are the ABLE!!)
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To: MichCapCon

Not NO, but HELL NO!!!!!


5 posted on 05/06/2014 5:17:48 PM PDT by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416,Feisty Old Vet !!)
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To: MichCapCon

without a thought... NO.

next question


6 posted on 05/06/2014 5:18:05 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: MichCapCon
Can someone tell me what damned choice we'll have?

obama will just issue an Executive Order and billions will flow to the gibmedats.

And what the hell will we be able to do about it?

Nothing.

7 posted on 05/06/2014 5:20:07 PM PDT by Snake Skin Sonny
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To: MichCapCon

"It'd be an act of love!"


8 posted on 05/06/2014 5:20:10 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: Snake Skin Sonny

Yes, I know that the story is about STATE funds, but mark my words, the federal coffers will open and obama will decree it.


9 posted on 05/06/2014 5:21:32 PM PDT by Snake Skin Sonny
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To: MichCapCon

With strictly state funds, no problem. Let the voters of Michigan decide.

Federal funds, absolutely not. There are plenty of ghost towns already so what’s one more?


10 posted on 05/06/2014 5:22:22 PM PDT by DNME (This is the government our Founders warned us about.)
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To: MichCapCon

No, next question.


11 posted on 05/06/2014 5:23:39 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: MichCapCon

No!!! Why build something up to watch the same people destroy it again, at our expense?


12 posted on 05/06/2014 5:26:19 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: MichCapCon

It’s an issue of the sovereign state of Michigan. If Michigan wants to be stupid enough to bail out Detroit, the citizens of Michigan will have to live with the consequences.


13 posted on 05/06/2014 5:26:31 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: MichCapCon

Like many Michiganders let Detroit go its own way. No taxpayer money. Look Obama promised three hundred million for blight (read union bailout). Will the last person to leave Detroit turn off the lights


14 posted on 05/06/2014 5:36:36 PM PDT by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: rovenstinez
In the movie "CBGB", there's a shot of a guy reading the paper with "Ford to NYC: Drop Dead" on the front page.

If a guy from Michigan can say that to New Yorkers, then Michiganders/Michiganites/Michiganians can say it to Detroiters.

15 posted on 05/06/2014 5:38:43 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: MichCapCon

Yes, Michigan should bailout Detroit! Let’s get it ON! The longer the slow bleed, the “slower the boil”. Let’s get the pot boiling over right NOW!


16 posted on 05/06/2014 5:58:20 PM PDT by SgtHooper (This is my tag!)
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To: MichCapCon

Does a bear $hit in a bathroom?


17 posted on 05/06/2014 6:00:25 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: MichCapCon

Bulldoze the entire site. Scatter the population. Sell the land to people with cash.


18 posted on 05/06/2014 6:11:24 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: MichCapCon

Only if you are comfortable with the leaders of the city stealing the money.


19 posted on 05/06/2014 6:33:52 PM PDT by kempster
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To: MichCapCon

Is this a joke? Detroit should be emptied of most of its current residents and have them dispersed around the country. Then restock the city with people who like to work for a living and obey the laws.


20 posted on 05/06/2014 6:40:46 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: MichCapCon

Negatroids!!! There is an old saying that you reap what you sow. Detroit has reaped it along with the chickens coming home to roost.

They can first start by all city employees taking a pay/benefits cut. Then reign in the unions.


21 posted on 05/06/2014 6:50:23 PM PDT by QT3.14
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To: MichCapCon

No. And Hell No. Would be the worst thing that could happen to Detroit. Would simply make the pit and the reckoning WORSE for them. Seriously.

Sigh, I am sure that statement is somehow not PC, as are most facts these days. Sigh again.


22 posted on 05/06/2014 6:59:32 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: driftless2

Dispersed around the country?

Notice to people from Detroit: Texas is racist, everything here is poisonous, gun fights happen every day in every town (OK, you are used to that), we have city eating tornados, the food sucks, few of the women rate above a 6 (the “men” max out at 5), and we have no jobs. Wish I had never come here. OK?

To any Freeper or conservative, the above is clearly /sarc, but you knew that, right?


23 posted on 05/06/2014 7:09:15 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: MichCapCon

Let’s see, that’s the same tobacco settlement money that was supposed to be used to prevent smoking, anti-smoking campaigns, etc. So instead the money is wasted on Detroit to enable them to continue on their merry way.


24 posted on 05/06/2014 7:27:07 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Surgeon General Warning: Use of Planned Parenthood is hazardous to unborn black fetuses.)
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To: MichCapCon

Certainly NOT!


25 posted on 05/06/2014 8:40:23 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: MichCapCon

It is what the Democrats made of it. It is what the people of that city voted for, for decades. Let it rot.


26 posted on 05/06/2014 8:42:05 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Every penny given to film and TV media companies goes right into enemy coffers. Starve them out!)
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To: MichCapCon
From the leading manufacturing city in the world to this. How did we come to this?

Silly question. Everybody knows how we came to this. The place was looted. And everybody knows who did it. When Detroit and the nation can face that unflinching we'll have a chance. That certainly isn't now.

27 posted on 05/06/2014 8:47:30 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: MichCapCon

The State of Michigan and its citizens can do whatever they want with their $$ in regards to Detroit. That’s a Michigan problem, just like Chicago is Illinois’, etc., etc....

Just don’t dare go reaching into MY pocket...(even if I lived in the respective states I’d still say NO)


28 posted on 05/06/2014 10:45:24 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: piytar

And those armadillos taste awful. My brother makes me eat them morning, noon, and night whenever I visit. Wouldn’t be so bad, but the tire marks are a bit distracting. (snicker)


29 posted on 05/07/2014 5:33:19 AM PDT by driftless2
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