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Black man declares himself immune from American law; media calls it a “clash of cultures”
Coach is Right ^ | 5/8/14 | Kevin "Coach" Collins

Posted on 05/08/2014 10:44:54 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax

On New Year’s Eve, the St. Charles County Missouri police stopped a man for a speeding violation. Subsequent investigation established that although the man presented papers indicating that his name is Noble Yahudah Ben YisraEL and he is a member of the United Nation of YisraEL, his former name is Clarence Holmes and he was wanted under that name for felonious driving with a revoked licenses. Unable to pay his $25,000 bail he was kept in a local jail until April 2.

Holmes, a 28 year old African American, claims The United Nations of YisraEL, is an organization of American Blacks who demand certain privileges based on their being descendants of slaves. The group insists they are citizens of a sovereign state which exempts them from regulatory laws...

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TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: clarenceholmes; missouri; racism; stcharlescounty; unofyisrael

1 posted on 05/08/2014 10:44:54 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: Oldpuppymax

I call it Obama-cloning.


2 posted on 05/08/2014 10:47:08 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Oldpuppymax

Just renounce your citizenship, leave the country, then come back and be an illegal.


3 posted on 05/08/2014 10:49:11 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Oldpuppymax

He’s looney, but at least he’s not a Muslim.


4 posted on 05/08/2014 10:52:20 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Clarence Holmes needs to understand that he cannot simply refuse to recognize the authority of the government.


5 posted on 05/08/2014 10:54:04 AM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: Oldpuppymax

Well Clarence, how’s that working out for you so far?


6 posted on 05/08/2014 10:54:47 AM PDT by soycd
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To: Oliviaforever

wonder what the Left will have to say about this, I remember when Clive Bundy said nearly the same thing they demanded he be shot.


7 posted on 05/08/2014 10:56:02 AM PDT by Trueblackman (As a Conservative, I am proud to be on the Obama's enemy list and on the right side of history..)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Deport him.


8 posted on 05/08/2014 10:56:42 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Oldpuppymax

They already have a lot of special privileges. Freedom from prosecution from hate crimes. Free college tuition. Preference in hiring.
What more could they want?


9 posted on 05/08/2014 10:56:42 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

I always love the real names of Nation of Islam people.


10 posted on 05/08/2014 10:59:19 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: PapaNew

” - - - I call it Obama-cloning. - - - “

Yup, just lie, deny and refuse to comply.

Could be that he will be appointed to be on AG Holder’s Staff at the DOJ.


11 posted on 05/08/2014 10:59:36 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Throw him in jail for life with no access to trial by a jury of his peers. If he doesn’t recognise American laws, he should not be afforded the protection of American laws.


12 posted on 05/08/2014 11:00:46 AM PDT by anonsquared
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To: I want the USA back

Isn’t it fun living during the second period of Reconstruction? First as tragedy, second as farce.


13 posted on 05/08/2014 11:01:02 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Oldpuppymax

guess he didn’t want to put in his time in the nation of israel, or the black panthers.


14 posted on 05/08/2014 11:01:50 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: anonsquared

any good lawyer would tell you that’s unfair treatment based on what we do to mexicans who don’t recognize American laws. he’d have him signed up for more govt programs and a counter-lawsuit in about an hour.


15 posted on 05/08/2014 11:04:07 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Trueblackman

“wonder what the Left will have to say about this, I remember when Clive Bundy said nearly the same thing they demanded he be shot.”

i believe Mr. Bundy claimed that he did not recognize the authority of the federal government. This Holmes character appears to recognize no legitimate government within the United States.

But I do suspect that you are right in that the Left will be hypocritical as usual and will not condemn Holmes. However, I would not be surprised to see some of the very same Patriots who came to the aid of Mr. Bundy also do the same for Homes.


16 posted on 05/08/2014 11:04:22 AM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: PapaNew

Yeah, I thought this thread would be about Obama.


17 posted on 05/08/2014 11:05:05 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Oldpuppymax
The group insists they are citizens of a sovereign state which exempts them from regulatory laws...

Then don't break those laws on U.S. soil. What's the problem, Clarence?

18 posted on 05/08/2014 11:06:18 AM PDT by RansomOttawa (tm)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Clash of cultures is as good a way of putting it as I have seen. It seems the majority but not all Black people have a different way of looking at things than I do. They play the race card at the drop of a hat. Everything is racist to them.


19 posted on 05/08/2014 11:09:06 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Oldpuppymax

Let him demand all day. The state should demand he pay his fines or let him rot in jail.


20 posted on 05/08/2014 11:09:15 AM PDT by armydawg505
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To: Oldpuppymax

Fine, handcuff him and put him on a Delta flight to Lagos, Nigeria. Case closed.


21 posted on 05/08/2014 11:10:15 AM PDT by armydawg505
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To: Oldpuppymax

Uh, Clarence? Some bad news: if a French or German or Latvian or Gambian or Australian or Chinese citizen decides to double the speed limit on the San Diego Freeway, he’s going down. Sorry about that.


22 posted on 05/08/2014 11:12:16 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Oldpuppymax

The guy is an idiot. I really think he is from the planet Venus.


23 posted on 05/08/2014 11:12:22 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Oldpuppymax

I wonder if this United Nation of YisraEL is an offshoot of the Moorish Science Temple of America?

The word “Noble” in his name immediately struck me. It reminded me of Noble Drew Ali (born Timothy Drew, 1886) and with his name of “Noble Yahudah Ben YisraEL” - that ‘el’ suffix at the end of the name is very common among MSTA members.

They’re still around, and they’re really into the sovereign citizen thing. I can’t help but wonder if this group has a connection to the Moorish Science Temple.


24 posted on 05/08/2014 11:13:49 AM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

We had a recent experience here in Florida with a friend of ours, Martin, a German national living here on a visa, spoke English fluently, married with twins, gainfully employed for years with my wife’s uncle as an electrician in his commercial electrical contracting business, paid taxes, owned a nice house and some land on which he was building a shop to start his own business as a furniture and cabinet maker, which he learned to do in Germany years ago. He had renewed his visa and work permit many times in the past with no problem, but after Obama took office, the government rejected his request for a visa extension. He appealed and was turned down at every turn. So he decided to become a citizen and started the process, but the Obama administration forced him to finally leave and go back to Germany before he could complete the requirements. He had to move back to Germany where he and his wife knew no one, she didn’t speak the language and he had to take a job as a day laborer, in hopes that he could find work as a cabinet maker or electrician.

I told him when it looked like all of his avenues of appeal to renew his visa were
exhausted, that he should simply add an “ez” to the end of his name and call himself Martinez and the government would not only let him stay but give him free stuff. We laughed about it but it was not far from the truth. If he had been an illegal hispanic, he would have not only been allowed to stay without a visa but he would have access to all the government services that many Americans born in this country don’t qualify for or have access to.

This man was a productive, taxpaying member of this country. Why he was forced to go back to Germany when he had established himself here and started a family here, was a mystery to us. He was an asset and the type of citizen that this country should want as immigrants. But, typical of everything else Obama has done in since taking office, nothing is the same or as it appears. The world is upside down anymore.


25 posted on 05/08/2014 11:19:12 AM PDT by HotHunt
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To: Oldpuppymax

Ah! One of them Soveriegn Citizens.


26 posted on 05/08/2014 11:21:41 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

If he is “immune” to American Law, he’s not protected, either.


27 posted on 05/08/2014 12:11:51 PM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: Trueblackman

Good point.


28 posted on 05/08/2014 12:13:22 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: HotHunt

Not so hard to figure out. He’s white, right?


29 posted on 05/08/2014 12:17:35 PM PDT by Wildcat Stevens
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To: Oldpuppymax

Sounds like the jungle in Nigeria would be compatible.


30 posted on 05/08/2014 12:21:11 PM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: Oldpuppymax
Black man declares himself immune from American law; media calls it a “clash of cultures”

There seems to be a lot of that going around since the "elections" of 2008.

31 posted on 05/08/2014 12:26:05 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: hal ogen

The typical Odumbo voter! Perfectly cloned millions of times.


32 posted on 05/08/2014 1:29:29 PM PDT by SgtHooper (This is my tag!)
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To: SgtHooper

Sovereign citizen?


33 posted on 05/08/2014 1:31:28 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Looks like a good time for the US to declare war on this “country” and wipe it the eff out. Thanks Oldpuppymax.


34 posted on 05/08/2014 3:03:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Trueblackman

It’ll be fun to remind them of that. :’)


35 posted on 05/08/2014 3:07:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

Good catch!


36 posted on 05/08/2014 3:09:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: DannyTN

They will as soon as they figure out where on earth the United Nation of YisraEL actually IS!


37 posted on 05/08/2014 3:12:47 PM PDT by Hoffer Rand (Bear His image. Bring His message. Be the Church.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

He’s been arrested, he is resisting authority, and favors disobedience.He needs to have his testosterone level checked to see if he is suffering from abnormally high testosterone levels.


38 posted on 05/08/2014 3:37:17 PM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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