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Was Your Child Fathered by Thomas Lippert? (In Vitro Nightmare)
Creative Minority Report ^ | May 10, 2014 | Matthew Archbold

Posted on 05/10/2014 2:05:49 PM PDT by NYer

This is a very disturbing website. A man recently learned that he is not the father of his daughter. He and his wife are shocked because it turns out that the biological father was a man who worked at the IVF clinic.

They found out quite by accident as shown in this video.

Family Discovers Insemination Switch after Tracing Genealogy

The clinic worker is dead and the clinic is gone. The university associated with it is refusing to warn people about the possibility that this nutjob Lippert may have done this many times because "the burdens of this information are likely to outweigh the benefits to families."

Now the couple has a website as an attempt to warn people.

We believe that it is possible that Thomas Lippert has many biological children living in the Salt Lake City area, Minnesota and beyond. The parents of these children may be completely unaware that their child is not biologically related to the presumed father. If you or someone you know was conceived through artificial insemination at the fertility clinic associated with the University of Utah, otherwise known as Reproductive Medical Technologies, you need to be aware of this potential. We encourage you to have your children tested at one of three companies offering genealogy DNA tests where the biological relatives of Thomas Lippert have tested for comparison purposes. These are 23andMe, AncestryDNA and Family Tree DNA. This is not a legal paternity test and is for informational purposes only.

Although some may feel that it is preferable not to know if Mr. Lippert is the biological father of your child, we believe the knowledge of biological heritage is essential to avoid half-siblings who may be living in the same communities potentially engaging in romantic relationships, as well as for family medical history.

Thomas Lippert worked at the fertility clinic from 1986-1997 or 1998, but began donations in 1983. It is possible that his sperm sample was exchanged with other intended fathers' samples and/or was frozen under other names and used after this time.

HT BioEdge


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: ivf
Watch the video! Thomas Lippert, a former professor, served 2 years in jail for a case that made national headlines. For 3 weeks, he kept a college student locked up in a black box, conducting "love" experiments on her. Attorney F. Lee Bailey, represented him. Also, on the wall behind his desk at the clinic, were pictures of children. He was very proud of them. Did he place them there because they were his offspring? Lippert has since died, the clinic is no longer in operation. If anyone used this clinic between 1988 and 1994, there is information on how to be tested.
1 posted on 05/10/2014 2:05:49 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; ...
It is never permitted to do something which is intrinsically illicit, not even in view of a good result: the end does not justify the means.
INSTRUCTION DIGNITAS PERSONAE ON CERTAIN BIOETHICAL QUESTIONS

Ping!

2 posted on 05/10/2014 2:07:15 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: NYer

F. Lee Bailey. Now, there’s a familiar name.

Here’s an extract from the Wikipedia article on him:


2.1 Sam Sheppard
2.2 “Boston Strangler”
2.3 Dr. Carl A. Coppolino
2.4 Ernest Medina
2.5 Patty Hearst
2.6 1994 DuBoc case
2.7 O.J. Simpson
2.8 William & Chantal McCorkle


3 posted on 05/10/2014 2:11:34 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: NYer

"This is the town Professor Lippert told me about."


4 posted on 05/10/2014 2:16:32 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: NYer

Based upon the birth and death dates of Thomas Ray Lippert (1950-1997), I am fairly sure that neither my father (1917-1968), nor myself (1946-Current) were fathered by him.


5 posted on 05/10/2014 2:17:45 PM PDT by GreyFriar ( Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: NYer

It is paramount to remember that this criminal was NOT A FATHER. In journalism they grasp for the right terms that sound more frightening. These children were FATHERED by the man they love and lived with, their Dad. Genetics doesn’t matter.

And these children are perfect, the way Gd made them. Important to remember that children conceived by criminals are still born pure and innocent.

I’ve met FReepers big in the pro life movement who were conceived by a violent rape on a virgin mom. They are innocent of the crime of this genetic sperm donor. Same here.


6 posted on 05/10/2014 2:19:46 PM PDT by Yaelle
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There are many, many reasons why IVF is just WRONG. This is but one of them. But a big one of them. Was this sicko the only man to do this? And what about "clinics" that use sperm for single women or women whose husbands have a low sperm count? How many half siblings are out there and don't know who their fathers are? Detestable. Violate natural law created by God and the result is suffering and trouble.

7 posted on 05/10/2014 2:23:59 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: NYer
Was Your Child Fathered by Thomas Lippert?

Don't think so. I was present at the original events and don't recall him.

8 posted on 05/10/2014 2:25:24 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: NYer

I’m absolutely certain none of them was.


9 posted on 05/10/2014 2:27:37 PM PDT by Tax-chick (You have a bruise on your thumb, James. You'll be okay.)
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To: Cicero

Affectionately known as Flea Bailey.

A class A jerk.

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10 posted on 05/10/2014 2:27:41 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Yaelle; GreyFriar
Genetics doesn’t matter.

I beg to differ with you. As an adoptee and adoptive parent, rest assured that genes carry dna inherited from biological parents. That dna includes predisposition to all sorts of medical issues. Twins separated at birth and adopted by different families, once reunited, display many common personality traits.

I love my adoptive family as does my daughter but Genetics does matter!

11 posted on 05/10/2014 2:36:46 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: NYer

But they have not found one other case.


12 posted on 05/10/2014 2:38:49 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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13 posted on 05/10/2014 2:40:14 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Chickensoup
But they have not found one other case.

I have not been following the story. Have they contacted all children conceived during that time frame and had them tested?

14 posted on 05/10/2014 3:16:00 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: Yaelle
And these children are perfect, the way Gd made them. Important to remember that children conceived by criminals are still born pure and innocent.

What do you base your view on? Scripture would appear to indicate that some children are born under what is essentially a curse, no? Good grief… it’s repeated 4 times! 1. Exodus 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; 2. Exodus 34:7 Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation. 3. Numbers 14:18 The Lord is longsuffering, and of great mercy, forgiving iniquity and transgression, and by no means clearing the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation. 4. Deuteronomy 5:9 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,

I’m glad that curses can be broken. Galatians 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

On another part of your comment, scripture does not agree that children are born pure and innocent… Psalms 51:5 - Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.

15 posted on 05/10/2014 3:19:52 PM PDT by hecticskeptic
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To: NYer

Steve Garvey is NOT my Padre!


16 posted on 05/10/2014 3:21:48 PM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Audentis Fortuna Iuvat)
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To: NYer

I know how you could solve this

Get everybody on Maury Povitch show LOL!


17 posted on 05/10/2014 3:21:50 PM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: NYer

IDK


18 posted on 05/10/2014 3:28:24 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: NYer
The university associated with it is refusing to warn people about the possibility that this nutjob Lippert may have done this many times because "the burdens of this information are likely to outweigh the benefits to families."

How do you define "self-serving?"
This nut job, and the university who hired him, all by themselves have created the obligation in the future, for all in-vitro clients to verify paternity at birth.
I certainly would. And sue their arrogant tenure into the next century!

19 posted on 05/10/2014 3:51:48 PM PDT by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good grace to resign!)
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To: Yaelle
I’ve met FReepers big in the pro life movement who were conceived by a violent rape on a virgin mom. They are innocent of the crime of this genetic sperm donor. Same here.

Noble of you to make a most personal and individual painful decision on behalf of everyone else!

Were you born that way? Or did you really have to work at it?

Look up "personal" and "individual" in the dictionary...

20 posted on 05/10/2014 3:56:11 PM PDT by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good grace to resign!)
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To: publius911
I’ve met FReepers big in the pro life movement who were conceived by a violent rape on a virgin mom. They are innocent of the crime of this genetic sperm donor. Same here.
Noble of you to make a most personal and individual painful decision on behalf of everyone else!

Were you born that way? Or did you really have to work at it?

Look up “personal” and “individual” in the dictionary...


Not sure what your point is here. The poster is declaring the children innocent. I imagine almost everyone on Free Republic feels the same way as the poster.
21 posted on 05/10/2014 4:10:34 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: hecticskeptic

Thank you for posting that, so I don’t have to...lol


22 posted on 05/10/2014 5:35:10 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

Okay which one of you told Freepers that old LA Dodger joke here LOL!

BE NICE Freepers leave to Steve Garvey to us SO cal folks Okay LOL!


23 posted on 05/10/2014 6:22:34 PM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: NYer

Somethings you are better off not knowing. But that doesnt mean that this worm should not be boiled in oil if he were still alive.


24 posted on 05/10/2014 6:27:18 PM PDT by amnestynone (Lindsey Graham is a feckless, duplicitous, treacherous, double dealing backstabbing corksucker.)
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To: NYer

In the context of the paragraph, I meant genetics doesn’t matter in fathering. Or mothering.

Of course genetics is important biologically. But anyone like yourself and me who’ve had parent / child relationships with non genetic loved ones knows that it doesn’t affect the work or the love of the relationship.


25 posted on 05/11/2014 12:31:22 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: hecticskeptic

So you believe the sins of the parent dirty the innocent baby who arrives therefrom? Ok, but I do not. I can’t argue with the religious beliefs of others. But I believe every child is born innocent and deserves love and a good life, regardless of the behavior of his parents.


26 posted on 05/11/2014 12:34:07 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: publius911

I can tell you are angry at me or vehemently disagreeing but I don’t understand what I wrote to cause it, sorry.


27 posted on 05/11/2014 12:35:34 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: hecticskeptic

I think that you’re probably taking things out of context — it looks like the poster was repudiating the idea that the children are responsible for the sins/crimes of their parents; if that’s the case then it is not out of step with the scriptures.

Deuteronomy 24:16
Parents are not to be put to death for their children, nor children put to death for their parents; each will die for their own sin.


28 posted on 05/11/2014 1:51:52 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: NYer

This story gives literal meaning to that old legal term, chain of custody!


29 posted on 05/11/2014 2:08:21 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Yaelle
So you believe the sins of the parent dirty the innocent baby who arrives therefrom?

I believe in scripture and have never found a reason to not do so. Everyone is born in sin as mentioned in my earlier post… Psalm 51:5. However, scripture also talks about something that indicates that parents who engage in sinful practices are actually handing down an additional curse to the next generation….. this so called 'generational course' can be broken but regardless, this has nothing to do with mankind's view of what we might think someone 'deserves', even if referring to a newborn baby. If you want to talk about what mankind ‘deserves’, Hebrews 9:27 says this….. ‘And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:’ It doesn’t say anything about exceptions, the age of the person etc. That word ‘appointed’ infers getting what one deserves……. which is to die and then be judged for one’s sins. However, this curse too can be broken with a way of escape as can be found in many scriptures…. Here is probably the most well known one. John 3:16 ‘For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.’

30 posted on 05/11/2014 8:18:47 AM PDT by hecticskeptic
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To: hecticskeptic

We agree to disagree about the innocence of babies.


31 posted on 05/11/2014 10:56:09 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

Whether you agree with me or not is immaterial. In this instance, I’m just the messenger.....


32 posted on 05/11/2014 11:13:35 AM PDT by hecticskeptic
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To: hecticskeptic
Check Ezekial. God judges each man by his deeds. Guess God changed his mind.
33 posted on 05/16/2014 1:01:44 AM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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