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Weep for California
Chronicles Magazine ^ | May 10, 2014 | Clyde Wilson

Posted on 05/13/2014 2:04:34 PM PDT by Pelham

California, once the American Mecca of milk and honey, has fallen on hard times. Though its degradation and decline are largely self-inflicted, California’s condition is nonetheless an American tragedy and a dire portent for the rest of us.

The state is fast becoming a colony and milk cow for Mexico, with a few enclaves occupied by Asians the way the British used to dominate Hong Kong and Singapore. Public spending and debt have reached catastrophic levels unmanageable by a society of self-centered individuals and interest groups. Gang warfare dominates the urban jungle. The state doubtless leads the Union in foreigners, perverts, dopesters, and aborted children. Hollywood, once a source of pleasant diversions, now pollutes not only the U.S. but the entire world with pornography, nihilistic violence, and, what is worse, bad taste. The Terminator and various other flakes have been elected governor. Productive citizens are fleeing east and north by the thousands. If illegal aliens are not counted California is losing population for the first time in a century and a half of American settlement.

However, not to worry. The California legislature has voted unanimously (ONE dissenting vote) to ban the Confederate flag! They have taken a stand on the major issue of the age, valiantly attacking a looming threat to human progress. (Though apparently the Hammer & Sickle, the Swastika, and Che Guevara and Black Power fists are still welcome).

We Southerners are blessedly free of the characteristic American passion for minding other people’s business. I usually don’t care what California is up to, although, of course, the evil of its massive power in Congress and presidential elections threatens me and everything I hold dear. And its fountain of moral and cultural depravity seems inescapable.

The Powers That Be in the lost commonwealth on the Pacific assure us that

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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: california; chronicles; clydewilson

1 posted on 05/13/2014 2:04:34 PM PDT by Pelham
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To: Pelham

They raised the sales tax by a penny for however long and now they claim to have 2 billion extra dollars to give to government employees.

#1 Why not rebate the state for the extra tax collected?


2 posted on 05/13/2014 2:09:10 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

“#1 Why not rebate the state for the extra tax collected?”

Because the Third World needs your money.


3 posted on 05/13/2014 2:10:38 PM PDT by Pelham (If you do not deport it is amnesty by default.)
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To: Pelham

A lot of younger people must look at California, and anticipating the decline in the decades to come, decide to put the energy into their careers and homes, in a place that looks like it will growing with them, in a place that is expected to be better in 30 years, not far worse.

People don’t like to commit to, and invest themselves in losers.


4 posted on 05/13/2014 2:11:52 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: Pelham

did you stop to read the bill that the california assembly actually passed?


5 posted on 05/13/2014 2:13:04 PM PDT by socalgop
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To: socalgop

“did you stop to read the bill that the california assembly actually passed?”

It wasn’t included in the article that I posted. Feel free to inform us what words of wisdom the overwhelming leftist California Assembly bestowed upon us.


6 posted on 05/13/2014 2:17:19 PM PDT by Pelham (If you do not deport it is amnesty by default.)
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To: Pelham
Feel free to inform us what words of wisdom the overwhelming leftist California Assembly bestowed upon us.

Was this the one where they wanted to rename the "Asian Carp" because it was derogatory and offensive to Asians?

7 posted on 05/13/2014 2:23:07 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Tagline deleted at the request of an offended FReeper.)
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To: Pelham

Representatives are based on the number of citizens. With California’s population tepidly becoming devoid of citizens, shouldn’t they lose a few representatives? Seems like they wouldn’t wield so much power with fewer reps or few electoral votes.


8 posted on 05/13/2014 2:25:12 PM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: Pelham

Thank the democrat politicians in Sacramento for running the state into the ground by their taking from the pockets of the working American citizens and running successful business out of the state by over regulations and taxes. They then give it to the illegals both in and out of prison as well as funnel millions to the unions, all so they can get reelected to stay in power as to perpetuate their scam. Anchor babies away!!! Sounds like DC.


9 posted on 05/13/2014 2:26:57 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: bk1000
Representatives are based on the number of citizens.

No, Representatives are based on "the whole number of persons in each State." (U.S. Constitution, 14th Amendment, section 2). So aliens, legal and illegal, are counted in a state's population for purposes of apportioning Representatives.

10 posted on 05/13/2014 2:32:38 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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11 posted on 05/13/2014 2:33:09 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: bk1000

“Representatives are based on the number of citizens. With California’s population tepidly becoming devoid of citizens, shouldn’t they lose a few representatives? “

The only people we are losing are Americans. We replace them with illegal aliens from the third world so the population stays the same or even increases.

And since no one is interested in making sure only Americans vote there is no reason to reduce the number of Congressmen from California.


12 posted on 05/13/2014 2:34:26 PM PDT by Pelham (If you do not deport it is amnesty by default.)
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To: drypowder

You understand the situation here exactly.


13 posted on 05/13/2014 2:35:19 PM PDT by Pelham (If you do not deport it is amnesty by default.)
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To: bk1000
Representatives are based on the number of citizens. With California’s population tepidly becoming devoid of citizens, shouldn’t they lose a few representatives? Seems like they wouldn’t wield so much power with fewer reps or few electoral votes.

The Census Bureau made it clear they're counting everyone, not just citizens.

Thus, Latin America will control a good chunk of the House of Representatives even if California is depopulated of citizens.

14 posted on 05/13/2014 2:36:29 PM PDT by Spirochete (GOP: Give Obama Power)
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To: Pelham

The bulk of California is actually conservative that have fallen for fad type politics. The leeches that are allowed to vote will be in for a big awakening soon. BOzocare will begin the reversal of the trend.


15 posted on 05/13/2014 2:38:08 PM PDT by jetson
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To: bk1000

With close to 40 million people that’s a long way off.


16 posted on 05/13/2014 2:38:41 PM PDT by peteyd (A dog may bite you in the ass,but it will never stab you in the back.)
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To: Pelham

I’ll cry two tears in a bucket.


17 posted on 05/13/2014 2:39:35 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Spirochete
The Census Bureau made it clear they're counting everyone, not just citizens.

Exactly as the Constitution requires. Under section 2 of the 14th Amendment, only "citizens of the United States" can vote for memebers of Congress, but Representatives are apportioned based on "the whole number of persons in each State."

18 posted on 05/13/2014 2:41:02 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Pelham
Amazingly accurate use of words:

"The state is fast becoming a colony and milk cow for Mexico, with a few enclaves occupied by Asians the way the British used to dominate Hong Kong and Singapore."

19 posted on 05/13/2014 2:41:57 PM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Pelham

I am finally ready to leave. I was born here and would have likes to stay here in Paradise forever. But I can’t afford paradise any more, and there are more and more home invasions in paradise.

Any freepers in denver?


20 posted on 05/13/2014 2:42:39 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

How sad! California is a beautiful state with a beautiful climate, and the Dems have ruined it in less than thirty years.

And how sad it is that you have to be driven out due to their stupidity.


21 posted on 05/13/2014 2:44:45 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Yaelle

You want to go to Colo-fornia now?

out of the frying pan...


22 posted on 05/13/2014 2:44:54 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Pelham
The California legislature has voted unanimously (ONE dissenting vote) to ban the Confederate flag!

Actually, they banned only the State government from selling Confederate flags. (Apparently, the gift shop at some State park was selling Confederate flags and someone complained.)

23 posted on 05/13/2014 2:44:56 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Yaelle

” and there are more and more home invasions in paradise.”

LA County?

These home invasions are just some of the Wealth of Diversity of the new, improved California.


24 posted on 05/13/2014 2:46:10 PM PDT by Pelham (If you do not deport it is amnesty by default.)
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To: Pelham
I found this:

California Assembly Moves To Ban Sale Or Display Of Confederate Flag

1, May 6, 2014 by jonathanturley

220px-Confederate_Rebel_Flag.svgCalifornia flagThe California state assembly has passed a new law that will be prohibit the selling or displaying items with an image of the Confederate flag. We have previously discussed the disciplining of students and others over the display of this flag as protected speech. In the same way, this bill raises serious constitutional questions and could trigger a court fight.


220px-Hall_headshotAssemblyman Isadore Hall, D-Compton secured a 72-1 vote in favor of the new law. It would not prohibit the display in educational or museum settings. However, it would prevent people from displaying the flag on state property which would presumably include parks. Hall said that he took the action after his mother saw replica Confederate money being sold at the state Capitol gift shop.

The amended bill is quite vague on key terms. It states:

SECTION 1. Section 53.5 is added to the Civil Code, to read:
53.5. (a) The State of California may not sell or display the Battle Flag of the Confederacy, also referred to as the Stars and Bars, or any similar image, or tangible personal property inscribed with such an image unless the image appears in a book that serves an educational or historical purpose.
(b) For purposes of this section, “sell” means to transfer title or possession, exchange, or barter, conditional or otherwise, in any manner or by any means whatsoever, for consideration. “Transfer possession” includes only transactions that would be found by the State Board of Equalization, for purposes of the Sales and Use Tax Law, to be in lieu of a transfer of title, exchange, or barter.

This removes problematic language in the original version but leaves a lot of questions. Here is the original language:

THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS:

SECTION 1. Section 53.5 is added to the Civil Code, to read:
53.5. (a) A person The State of California may not sell a Confederate flag or display the Battle Flag of the Confederacy, also referred to as the Stars and Bars, or any similar image, or tangible personal property inscribed with the such an image of a Confederate flag on property owned or operated by the state unless the image appears in a book that serves an educational or historical purpose.
(b) For purposes of this section, all of the following apply:
(1)“Person” means any individual, partnership, firm, joint stock company, corporation, limited liability company, association, trust, estate, or other legal entity.
(2)“Sell” section, “sell” means to transfer title or possession, exchange, or barter, conditional or otherwise, in any manner or by any means whatsoever, for consideration. “Transfer possession” includes only transactions that would be found by the State Board of Equalization, for purposes of the Sales and Use Tax Law, to be in lieu of a transfer of title, exchange, or barter.

Hall insisted that the flag is a symbol of racism that should not be allowed to be displayed. The Southern flag is clearly insulting to many people due to its historical associations. However, it is also a simple of Southern heritage and sacrifice. Robert E. Lee himself identified with the flag while rejoicing in the end of slavery. He stated:

In this enlightened age, there are few I believe, but what will acknowledge, that slavery as an institution, is a moral & political evil in any Country.

So far from engaging in a war to perpetuate slavery, I am rejoiced that slavery is abolished. I believe it will be greatly for the interests of the South. So fully am I satisfied of this, as regards Virginia especially, that I would cheerfully have lost all I have lost by the war, and have suffered all I have suffered, to have this object attained.

Respected scholars like Civil War historian Shelby Foote have noted that the flag traditionally represented the South’s resistance to Northern political dominance. As discussing in PBS interview, he was sensitive to how many of his friends viewed it as a symbol of racism but he did not share that view. Others view it as a symbol of state’s rights or Southern culture or opposition to speech codes or politically correct sentiments. The point is that, if some flags are allowed, there are a variety of symbols that are viewed as offensive by different groups.

So the question is what happens when people want to display this symbol while others are displaying other flags viewed negatively by other groups from Free Tibet to the PLO to Israel to China. It sounds a lot like content-based censorship.

The bill was amended to exclude non-government employees and businesses from the ban to address some of these concerns. It would also not ban the display for educational or historical reasons in textbooks. To the extent that it only affects government speech, the state is on stronger ground to be sure, but I am still unclear on the wide array of displays organized by the government with citizens or groups. Even with the wise exclusions, there would appear a myriad of circumstances where state employees would be presented with a conflict in barring the display not just on a flag but in other forms containing this symbol. Those specific conflicts could present an interesting challenge to the new law.


25 posted on 05/13/2014 2:59:21 PM PDT by Rio (Proud resident of the State of Jefferson)
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To: Pelham

I would, but...

Seems it never rains in Southern California.
Seems I’ve often heard that kind of talk before.
It never rains in California,
But girl, don’t they warn you.
It pours.....man it pours.

Out of work
I’m outta my head
Outta self respect
I’m outta bread.
I’m under loved
I’m over taxed
I wanna go home!


26 posted on 05/13/2014 2:59:56 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Pelham
Screw 'em. I'm not leaving.

California, still home to Free Republic...

A lot of people want to leave, but where are they going to make a stand? Everywhere you can go has been infested with either aliens or democrats. Nevada is pretty conservative overall but that's where Harry Reid hatched.

If you have to move come to the foothills.

27 posted on 05/13/2014 3:03:47 PM PDT by eldoradude (How many democrats does it take to change a light bulb?)
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To: Yaelle
Any freepers in denver?

East Tenn. is generally conservative,
politics are usually laissez faire
and the TVA lakes are wonderful
Lots of water here, moderate weather

Oak Ridge is a high tech enclave
home of Oak Ridge National Labs

http://www.ornl.gov/

Regional Dept. of Energy site

http://science.energy.gov/isc/

Not to mention Dolly Parton,
the Smokies,
and Great Country Music

28 posted on 05/13/2014 3:08:26 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: Pelham
My oldest...moved back to OK...from CA.

Could not be happier about that!!!

29 posted on 05/13/2014 3:13:19 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: Pelham

The bill originally banned all sales of Confederate flag memorabilia on state property. In explaining that provision, Hall noted a sign sold at the state fairgrounds depicting a Confederate flag with the phrase “It’s still my American flag.”
He amended the bill to exclude non-government employees and businesses from the ban to avoid violating constitutional free speech protections.
Courts have upheld the rights of individuals to display the Confederate flag while also upholding the rights of government agencies to limit what they endorse.

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014/05/05/state-bill-banning-sale-of-confederate-flag-passes/


30 posted on 05/13/2014 5:38:39 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: HangnJudge

Funny you should say TN. We went earlier this year to check out Nashville. We need a city and we need hockey and various services and opportunities for kids. Two of us loved it and one of us hated it. I have a total infatuation with Nashville now. And I am not a country music fan.

But our next city to check out is Denver. I know it’s not conservative but neither is L.A.


31 posted on 05/13/2014 11:14:53 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Pelham
Though its degradation and decline are largely self-inflicted...

Largely? Only about 100% or so.

32 posted on 05/13/2014 11:48:53 PM PDT by uglybiker (nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-BATMAN!)
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To: Yaelle

Raleigh, NC would be a possibility.


33 posted on 05/14/2014 12:03:43 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: eldoradude

Ditto the “Screw’em. I’m not leaving.”

I refuse to turn-tail and run. This state is beautiful! Has the best weather. (And this is coming from someone who lived in Hawaii and Texas)

Americans shouldn’t run from bullies. We stay and fight.

There are many good conservatives in this state, contrary to popular opinion on FR.


34 posted on 05/14/2014 12:06:11 AM PDT by Aurorales (I will not be ridiculed into silence!)
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To: Pelham

Wouldn’t waste a single tear for them. Self-inflicted.


35 posted on 05/14/2014 5:05:24 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Why should the number of illegals count?


36 posted on 05/16/2014 8:13:02 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy

Because the Constitution says so.


37 posted on 05/16/2014 9:17:55 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy; sickoflibs; Spirochete; yongin; ...

Your very literal interpretation of the phrase “the whole number of persons” aside, it makes very little sense to count foreign nationals toward congressional representation, would you go to the hotels and count foreign tourists as well? I doubt the founders intended that.

In any case it needs to stop, we can’t have states like Cali getting more seats than they’re entitled to.


38 posted on 05/16/2014 9:26:12 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: A CA Guy

If I stopped paying my bills I would have extra money also.


39 posted on 05/16/2014 9:26:28 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: Impy

if we’re going to count undocumented illegals, then why stop them from voting? oh wait. san fran allows ‘qualified’ illegals to vote in some city elections. we really should have cut funding to cities that provide sanctuary to illegals.


40 posted on 05/17/2014 5:25:38 AM PDT by yongin
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