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Building a platform on a lie; the GOP is getting ready to insure the next president is a Democrat
Coach is Right ^ | 5/16/14 | Kevin "Coach" Collins

Posted on 05/16/2014 9:00:20 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax

There are people who believe Elvis is alive and there are those who insist that the phases of the moon effect human conduct; then there are those who believe kowtowing to Hispanics will bring Republicans victory in 2016.

The fact that many people believe these things doesn’t make them true. While the first two are harmless fairytales believed by supermarket tabloid readers, the third is a dangerous lie believed by far too many decision makers in the Republican leadership.

Like the first two, the supposed connection between capturing the Hispanic vote and insuring victory for Republicans cannot be defeated with evidence that contradicts it.

Even in the face of a mathematical formula showing Mitt Romney could have won 70% of Hispanic votes and still lost, the GOPe will not give up the fairytale they believe.

Now “just” 18 months before the next presidential election the Republican hierarchy are beginning to show signs...

(Excerpt) Read more at coachisright.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; illegals; republicanparty; rinos

1 posted on 05/16/2014 9:00:20 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: Oldpuppymax

Another year in the pumpkin patch waiting for The Great Pumpkin?


2 posted on 05/16/2014 9:02:20 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

“...then there are those who believe kowtowing to Hispanics will bring Republicans victory in 2016.”

Right... like kow towing to ANY minority has EVER worked for Republicans!


3 posted on 05/16/2014 9:03:01 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: Oldpuppymax

How much are they insuring the next president for?


4 posted on 05/16/2014 9:03:48 AM PDT by Hugin
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To: Oldpuppymax

Every republican congresscritter needs to be told that bringing any immigration bill of any kind to the house floor will result in the instant death of the republican party. No votes at all. All of them must be told that the leadership will cost every single one of them their seat.


5 posted on 05/16/2014 9:05:49 AM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: SMARTY

The GOP ‘leadership’ has the same lack of logic that the liberals do. It’s beyond me how any adult can be so incapable of rational thought.


6 posted on 05/16/2014 9:06:09 AM PDT by yorkiemom
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To: Oldpuppymax

Here’s the reality of the next POTUS election.
The “blue wall” is at 246 electoral votes.
Six times voting Democrat POTUS (or more) in a row.

Anybody think any of those is gonna change?
All they have to do is add Ohio or Florida and they’re done.


7 posted on 05/16/2014 9:07:36 AM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: yorkiemom

They are very capable of rational thought.

The reason that some think the GOP is stupid is because the GOP has lied to them, and those people bought those lies.

The GOP has successfully convinced many people that the GOP is something that it most certainly is not.

The GOP and the Democrat party are both GOVERNMENT.

They both have the same agenda, because they are the exact same thing- government.

The are pursuing the exact same goal, and they are achieving that goal by dividing and conquering us with lies and deceit.


8 posted on 05/16/2014 9:14:55 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Oldpuppymax
Pale Pastels!


I'm telling you folks, the GOP is being run my Democrats. Whomever is
giving these orders and talking points is Not a Republican, but rather
a Democrat spy who has infiltrated the GOP. It's also not unheard of for
a politician in a rage to switch sides out of spite. A Traitor!

Who is making these decisions to ensure defeat for GOP?

9 posted on 05/16/2014 9:17:31 AM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: SMARTY

The Stupid Party. A well earned moniker.


10 posted on 05/16/2014 9:21:32 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: chris37

Thank God SOMEONE understands the truth here.

Call them the ‘uniparty’, the Ruling Class, whatever - state control and unlimited power is what the Democrats and the Republicans in fascist cooperation with big business are all about.

The concept of individual liberty and limited government is as foreign to them as it is to a Jihadist desperate to establish the global Caliphate.

In fact, the Jihadist and the career politician and party want the same thing: a Beast of a government that controls everyone.


11 posted on 05/16/2014 9:23:29 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: SMARTY


12 posted on 05/16/2014 9:24:18 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Oldpuppymax
To: Kevin Collins

You're missing a point here.

Even in the face of a mathematical formula showing Mitt Romney could have won 70% of Hispanic votes and still lost, the GOPe will not give up the fairytale they believe.

The GOPe comprising McConnell, Boehner and all their sycophants, lieutenants and political operatives have no problem disbelieving the "fairy tale". It's not a question of "belief". It's a question of money and coercive power. They are bought off as they represent entrenched interests that are pulling their strings.

These people of the GOPe have a job to do. Their job is to follow the instructions of their masters, and at the same time try and look good in some sense to their base. They're not doing so well on the latter but without the former they are finished. If they had any sense of ethics or morals or principles, they would resign but they think as gangsters think that if they step down someone worse will take their place. So they are both full of themselves and at the same time controlled by powerful interests (gun to the head so to speak).

It's not complicated.

The questions we have before us are 1) Do we know the true power brokers behind the scenes of the GOPe? (and the democrats for that matter), and 2) if we know are we prepared to do anything about it?

13 posted on 05/16/2014 9:25:28 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Oldpuppymax

islamism closer than the horizon


14 posted on 05/16/2014 9:26:51 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Oldpuppymax

They are persecuting Republicans and other normal people. They are willing to lie, cheat and steal to get another marxist elected.


15 posted on 05/16/2014 9:30:20 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: kabar

That ANY US politician should pander to minorities is a blueprint for ceaseless social discord-nevermind, the ultimately unworkable economics of the thing.

There is no rationale in that. It is a ‘Lose/Lose’ script for everyone concerned....because eventually, EVEN the freeloaders lose when the whole house of cards fails, as it must over time.


16 posted on 05/16/2014 9:30:25 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: MaxMax

If the GOP consistently stood on principles, there would be no need to respond to any rumors. The party is so weak and feckless it is easily manipulated by Democrats. and their pals in the media.


17 posted on 05/16/2014 9:30:54 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Oldpuppymax

Bingo. Well said.


18 posted on 05/16/2014 9:33:26 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Hostage

Excellent post. The GOP is, by and large, compromised and not the least bit interested in representing true conservative interests. If they were, government would a lot smaller than it is today.

Its amazing how often they get away with duping their voter base.


19 posted on 05/16/2014 9:36:16 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Hostage
It's not complicated.

No. It's not.

It's called Fascism … Mussolini-styled.

And the big money likes the partnership with Statist Big Government because government will eliminate their competition for them and create monopolies beholden to government.

It's incestuous, and it always becomes tyrannical and destructive.

20 posted on 05/16/2014 9:42:20 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Starboard
Its amazing how often they get away with duping their voter base.

Too true — I find it kind of disheartening when people claim [basically] that a;; we have to do is vote Republican* to fix things.
(* Like there would be much [any?] difference between a Romney [or McCain] presidency and Obama's — none of the three care a whit about the Constitution.)

21 posted on 05/16/2014 9:46:07 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: INVAR

“Call them the ‘uniparty’, the Ruling Class, whatever - state control and unlimited power is what the Democrats and the Republicans in fascist cooperation with big business are all about.”

Yes, they are all totalitarians who seek power and wealth. I’m happy that some of us realize it.


22 posted on 05/16/2014 9:46:42 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (What we need is to sucker the fedthugs into a "Tiananmen Square"-like incident on the National Mall!)
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To: MaxMax

Something is not right with the Pubbie *leadership*, that’s for sure.


23 posted on 05/16/2014 9:49:04 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Hugin

IF GOP lets a Democrat win the White House—because they blew it a 3rd Time—The Republican party needs to die a slow death—and replaced by some USIP.


24 posted on 05/16/2014 10:01:06 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Oldpuppymax

We frequently refer to Boehner and the rest as stupid, but I think they know that there is not a scintilla of truth in the claim that amnesty will bring more votes to the GOP. That nonsense is just the cover story.

The GOPe is on the pro-illegal train in order to cash in on something. Not sure what that something is, but I just don’t buy into the argument that they really believe immigration “reform” will get them votes.


25 posted on 05/16/2014 11:00:26 AM PDT by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

In a rational world, having the GOP lose the mid-terms because of their pathetic “outreach” to Hispanics would provide them the needed wakeup call to their electoral future after supporting amnesty.

But this isn’t a rational world; it’s the GOP.


26 posted on 05/16/2014 11:00:37 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: Bigg Red
The GOPe is on the pro-illegal train in order to cash in on something. Not sure what that something is, but I just don’t buy into the argument that they really believe immigration “reform” will get them votes.

One - Big Business likes illegal illiterate Mexican labor. They make money from it. They give that money to politicians. GOP Politicians are beholden to money from big business moreso than the Leftists who are beholden to ideology are.

Two - The Ruling Class knows where the power is going to lie in the new order - and they will do anything to share in it. Judeo-Christian American Conservatism is being destroyed - and government is going to be the god of a post-Constitutional, post-American nation. Therefore they are going to do anything and everything to ensure a seat for themselves in that power.

Three - A permanent slave dependency class will always support that which it worships for provisions. The Ruling Class considers government to be that deity, and therefore all principles and loyalty is to the establishment, protection and growing that Beast.

All civilizations collapse. All Republics fall into debt, chaos and dictatorship before annihilation. We're simply trodding over old worn paths that came before us.

27 posted on 05/16/2014 12:41:47 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Starboard

Young people are addicted to the MSM and to social networks.

Ones who MAY have understood and voted Repulican have been hijacked... they are lured away by the cheesy glitz and shallow flash of populist BS.

The deck is really stacked against Conservatism.


28 posted on 05/16/2014 12:56:02 PM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: SMARTY

“...the cheesy glitz and shallow flash of populist BS. The deck is really stacked against Conservatism.”

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I couldn’t agree more with you. People are attracted to the idea of being taken care of, given freebies, and promises of utopia. They want to live on Easy Street.

This naivete, greed and laziness is putting us on a destructive path and things will only worsen over time UNTIL it all eventually blows up. Then....the country will look to real leadership to get us out of the mess.


29 posted on 05/16/2014 1:17:14 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: INVAR

Can’t argue with anything you said. ~~sigh....~~

On the bright side, maybe you and I will be on the same work detail in the re-education camp, comrade.


30 posted on 05/16/2014 1:33:33 PM PDT by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: yorkiemom

OK?


31 posted on 05/16/2014 2:19:36 PM PDT by cooper10
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To: Bigg Red
The GOPe is on the pro-illegal train in order to cash in on something. Not sure what that something is, but I just don’t buy into the argument that they really believe immigration “reform” will get them votes.

I believe the something is cheap labor — in particular they're striving to create what is, in effect, a slave caste.
This benefits their big corporation sponsors as well as allows them to build little fiefdoms.

32 posted on 05/16/2014 2:32:43 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

I’ve said before, if “immigration reform” gets passed, minimum wage becomes a huge issue for the Democrats. Because it will drive down wages to the point that the public will demand that politicians “do something”. And talking about how it will kill entry level jobs won’t persuade anyone because those jobs will be going to foreigners anyway. So the Dems will offer raising the minimum wage to 12 or 15 an hour to “save the middle class”, and what will the GOP-e have to offer? Nada.


33 posted on 05/16/2014 4:43:51 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: chris37

“They both have the same agenda, because they are the exact same thing- government.”

Sad but true. And power corrupts. To the point that the Constitution and our founding fathers’ warnings are forgotten.


34 posted on 05/16/2014 8:14:30 PM PDT by yorkiemom
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To: yorkiemom

freep not working correctly: phone or yahoo only. very sorry.


35 posted on 05/17/2014 2:06:33 PM PDT by cooper10
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To: cooper10

$ ?


36 posted on 05/17/2014 6:21:51 PM PDT by yorkiemom
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To: Starboard

Unfortunately, in cases like that, despotism knows only too we’ll how to disguise itself as “real leadership” .

Spoiled, I’ll-educated and lazy mobs won’t know or care how
to make the critical distinction and ALL of us will be trapped in THEIR nightmare.


37 posted on 05/18/2014 7:52:49 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: yorkiemom

want to set up a schedule :) freep not allowing private. Other way necessary PLEASE!


38 posted on 05/19/2014 11:59:29 AM PDT by cooper10
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To: cooper10

I can swing by on my way east.

Of course, last time I suggested that you got married.
Time before that you got stinking drunk and threatened me.

So my dropping by obviously isn’t something you have ever desired.

You do your very best to discourage me, in every way imaginable.


39 posted on 05/26/2014 9:43:08 PM PDT by yorkiemom
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To: cooper10

OK?


40 posted on 06/29/2014 2:43:17 PM PDT by cooper10
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