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Scheme To Bypass Electoral College Quietly Advances
Klein Online/WND ^ | May 15, 2014 | Aaron Klein

Posted on 05/16/2014 9:33:46 PM PDT by Ray76

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SCHEME TO BYPASS ELECTORAL COLLEGE QUIETLY ADVANCES.
‘National Popular Vote’ 61% of way to skirting Constitution
1 posted on 05/16/2014 9:33:47 PM PDT by Ray76
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To: Ray76

If the elites behind this thought it would help TEA Party candidates, the effort would instantly come to a halt.


2 posted on 05/16/2014 9:36:30 PM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: Ray76

Communism advances.


3 posted on 05/16/2014 9:36:52 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: Ray76

Presidential Election Popular Votes 1940-2012
http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/elections/common/pop_vote.html


4 posted on 05/16/2014 9:40:16 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Ray76

Considering the amount of ire for the Dems by the public, what happens when conservative Pubbies (or even GOP-E) win the popular vote?

What will they do then? Go back to the electoral college?


5 posted on 05/16/2014 9:44:14 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

That is an interesting table.


6 posted on 05/16/2014 9:48:20 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Demorats are counting on influx of welfare seeking 3rd world immigrants to make them a permanent majority.


7 posted on 05/16/2014 9:51:48 PM PDT by entropy12 (Some thought Obama would be no worse than Romney. So we have less jobs and more food stamps people.)
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AND .. IN CASE YOU HAVEN’T NOTICED .. THIS IS EXACTLY WHY THE DEMS WANT AMNESTY .. THEY WILL NEED ALL THOSE VOTES IN ORDER TO WIN THE ELECTION IN 2016.

IF THEY MANAGE TO PULL IT OFF .. IT WILL FINISH THE DESTRUCTION OF AMERICA.

OR .... IT WILL START A CIVIL WAR (WHICH IS WHAT I THINK OBAMA WANTS); HE WILL DECLARE MARTIAL LAW AND ALL GOVT WILL BE SUSPENDED.

AMERICA BETTER WAKE UP .. WE’RE ALMOST OUT OF TIME.


8 posted on 05/16/2014 9:53:39 PM PDT by CyberAnt (True the Vote: MY AMERICA, "... I'm terrified it's slipping away.")
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To: Ray76

Do those that advocate the popular vote scheme expect conservative states to just accept it without contemplation of separation?


9 posted on 05/16/2014 9:53:41 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

The NPV is an underhanded assault calculated to obviate a Constitutional provision


10 posted on 05/16/2014 9:55:28 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party)
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To: Ray76

We’re about two elections away from a Mexican president. Sometimes I’m glad I’m old....


11 posted on 05/16/2014 9:56:27 PM PDT by clintonh8r (#Don't give up! The liberals are buggering and aborting themselves into extinction.)
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To: clintonh8r

Although I am much younger than you, I’m glad to be old enough that when this is complete, I will probably be dead as well.


12 posted on 05/16/2014 9:58:04 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Ray76

Why are these states so quick to yield their sovereignty?


13 posted on 05/16/2014 10:05:15 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: CyberAnt

AND .. IN CASE YOU HAVEN’T NOTICED .. THIS IS EXACTLY WHY THE DEMS WANT AMNESTY .. THEY WILL NEED ALL THOSE VOTES IN ORDER TO WIN THE ELECTION IN 2016.

IF THEY MANAGE TO PULL IT OFF .. IT WILL FINISH THE DESTRUCTION OF AMERICA.

All I have to say is when you are right you are right.


14 posted on 05/16/2014 10:06:56 PM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

So they still have not forgiven Republicans for not letting Gore steal the election in 2000.


15 posted on 05/16/2014 10:16:44 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (I never thought anyone could make Jimmy Carter look good in comparison)
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To: Ray76

Many constitutional scholars find that the NPV Compact probably is unconstitutional. Here are some links:

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDMQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.law2.byu.edu%2Flawreview%2Farticles%2F1360684250_3.williams.fin.pdf&ei=ivB2U9zUCsuisQSCqYHIBA&usg=AFQjCNFALc56QqubWsTX4vIFpzPGlIp6vQ

http://www.michiganlawreview.org/articles/ideological-endowment-the-staying-power-of-the-electoral-college-and-the-weaknesses-of-the-national-popular-vote-interstate-compact

http://jurist.org/forum/2012/02/william-ross-vote-compact.php

Basically, the arguments against the NPV are that it violates the Compact Clause of the Constitution, it may violate the Voting Rights Act, and it violates the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment.


16 posted on 05/16/2014 10:35:00 PM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: Ray76

the winners are big population centers and losers are medium and small states.

in essence it makes all states losers except for about six.


17 posted on 05/16/2014 10:35:16 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Ray76
I'd love to find some way to make the selection of the president non-partisan.

Having a partisan president select a partisan head of the Justice Department means the executive branch can get away with just about anything, the 2/3rds of the Senate conviction standard being a very high bar.

18 posted on 05/16/2014 10:40:53 PM PDT by freerepublicchat
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To: Jack Hydrazine

In the run up to the 2000 election the democrats were crying that if Bush won the popular vote it wouldn’t matter as long as Gore won the electoral vote. Well, the opposite happened and they changed their tune.


19 posted on 05/16/2014 11:11:45 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Jonty30
Exactly, which is why I wouldn't lose any sleep worrying about this retarded scheme.

If anything, they are doing the Right a favor by painting themselves as targets when action needs to be taken.

20 posted on 05/16/2014 11:18:28 PM PDT by Rome2000
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