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The world through the eyes of Russian state television
Radio Free Europe via Free Speech Debate ^ | April 04, 2014 | Robert Coalson, a Radio Free Europe/ Radio Liberty correspondent, covering Russia, Ukraine, Belarus,

Posted on 05/16/2014 9:41:15 PM PDT by Mike Darancette

Have you heard about the nefarious Polish general who made Napoleon invade Russia? No? You must not have been watching Rossia-1 television on March 31.

According to a documentary aired on Russia’s main state-run channel, General Michal Sokolnicki’s goal was the dismembering of the Russian Empire and the establishment of a Greater Poland extending from the Baltic to the Black Sea, buffered from a rump Russia by a series of garrison states.

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I see where some of these ideas about Ukraine are coming from.
1 posted on 05/16/2014 9:41:15 PM PDT by Mike Darancette
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They should make some Bullwinkle episodes where Boris and Natasha win.


2 posted on 05/16/2014 9:50:36 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Mike Darancette

Well, their media is not quite as good at propaganda as ours, but clearly it is as beholden to the corrupt scum who runs their government as ours is.

Sad times...


3 posted on 05/16/2014 10:00:16 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Mike Darancette

Bottom line is that in Russia you have access to every imaginable source of information. And a really lot of people are able to compute facts into their own opinions and tell propaganda for what is it.
The problem with fellow Americans is that the vast majority of people are too intellectually lazy to compute facts.
They prefer ready opinions, generated by someone else, and someone else always has some kind of agenda.
It wasn’t that much a liability a few decades ago when people had some proper core values as a moral compass to check said opinions to accept it or not, but it is certainly a problem now.


4 posted on 05/16/2014 10:03:19 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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“In passing we learn such “facts” as that former Ukrainian Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko finds domestic and foreign enemies “no worse than Stalin did.”

This article neglects to mention that Yulia Tymoshenko was caught on tape advocating the mass murder of all ethnic Russians. Wouldn’t that context be useful in understanding minority views of her in Ukraine?

“That the radical nationalist Right Sector activists are “her storm troopers.” “

This article neglects to mention that the interim government has formed new volunteer military units heavily populated by Right Sektor, etc.. These are the units they sent to stop people from voting, instead of regular army units.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/15/ukraine-civil-war-fears-mount-volunteer-units-kiev-russia

The current head of Ukraine’s national security and defence council is Andriy Parubiy, who set up the neo-fascist Social National party of Ukraine together with the current leader of far-right Svoboda.

“Russian sources often refer to Ukrainian activists as followers of World War II-era Ukrainian nationalist Stepan Bandera.”

Because lots of them actually do in fact glorify Stephan Bandera? Hello!
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-25826238

This article neglects to mention that Bandera strove to create a fascist totalitarian state, and advocated expelling or killing all minorities in Ukraine. His “OUN-B” military units mass murdered 80-100,000 Polish civilians in West Ukraine, 1943.

“The successes of rightist forces across Europe was attributed to the social tolerance of Western governments, including the legalisation of same-sex marriage.”

Is it not true?


5 posted on 05/16/2014 10:17:05 PM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Mike Darancette

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micha%C5%82_Sokolnicki_%28general%29


6 posted on 05/16/2014 11:07:17 PM PDT by PAR35
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The Russian people are perfectly OK with BS, as long as it is their BS. TS for everyone else, or even where it leads them.
In Russian culture a distinction is drawn between two kinds of lies, vranyo and lozh which do not have exact parallels in English. Vranyo has been claimed as uniquely Russian, and seems to consist of telling untrue but credible stories, a practice not condemned by those who recognize what is going on. Indeed, for success in vranyo-telling, there must be a listener who pretends to believe in the truth of what is being said. [...] Lozh, on the other hand, implies a conscious intention to deceive.

7 posted on 05/16/2014 11:16:48 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (You can't be passive and moral.)
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shhhhhh don’t let the Putinistas around here know. It will freak them out


8 posted on 05/16/2014 11:29:10 PM PDT by Nifster
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If you believe everything is truth in regards to Ukraine (or Boko Haram, Libya, Egypt...) from our media sources I’ve got a bridge you might be interested in. I would hope FReeepers are more informed that the sheeple.


9 posted on 05/16/2014 11:53:35 PM PDT by McGruff (#BringBackOurCountry)
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" I see where some of these ideas about Ukraine are coming from. "

The source you used: " University of Oxford ", the link going to the Free Speech debate blog on the University of Oxford site, plus the blog date you used all had to be replaced with the original source of the article, a working link to the original article and the original published date.

I also added the credentials of the author, which were found on the blog you linked and were also found on the original article, at the site of original publication, Radio Free Europe.

Please only use the name of the original published source and place that name in the source space. Please only use the original date of publication. Always provide a working link to the original published article only.

Thank you.

10 posted on 05/17/2014 12:11:12 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator

Good work.


11 posted on 05/17/2014 8:51:36 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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