Skip to comments.CIA, FBI agents dying for illegal junta in Ukraine
Posted on 05/19/2014 1:47:32 PM PDT by mgist
The US/CIA/NATO have stepped up their military operations and continue to actively wage their secret war in Ukraine against the Ukrainian people in an extremely dangerous poorly planned operation that is failing and carries with it the real threat of sparking off a full-fledged war, if not World War III, against an unwilling Russian Federation which continues to attempt to deal with the aggressive-in-your-face-threat to its security through diplomacy and peaceful means. The recent capture and killing of 25 CIA officers in Ukraine only shows the desperation of the US effort and the complete disregard for not only international law and the people of Ukraine but also for the lives of their own CIA personnel.
The facts are as follows (backed up by dozens of reports, eyewitness statements and visual evidence): on the 18th of May the Peoples Mayor of Slavyansk, Vyacheslav Ponomaryov announced that: "Kiev-controlled troops and 'law enforcers' had sustained heavy losses during a so-called counter-terrorist operation in the east of the country." "At least 650 servicemen were killed, wounded or taken prisoner in the past ten 10 days," he said.
"There are 70 foreigners among them and of those 13 agents of the US Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) were killed and 12 others were wounded", Ponomaryov told reporters.
The Mayor also said that the self-defense forces afflicted heavy losses on Right Sector/Ukrainian army forces and also completely wiped out the juntas "Alpha" operatives.
According to media and television reports Mayor Ponomaryov stated that with regard to the " foreign mercenaries in the ranks of Ukrainian executioners, they also suffered losses. According to Ponomarev, a private military company Analizy Systemowe Bartlomiej lost 6 people, Greystone - 14 people, Academi - 50 people. CIA and FBI have lost 25 employees, of which 13 - killed."
"Furthermore, killed or injured 40 soldiers of the 95th airmobile brigade of Ukrainian Armed Forces, as well as 20 members of the MUP . Loss Donetsk militias from May 2-12 8 were killed and 3 wounded."
US Denies The Voice of Russia also reported that the CIA denied the claims on a Twitter post, which of course is to be expected: "The US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) has denied reports of a number of CIA agents allegedly killed in clashes between forces loyal to the Kiev authorities and self-defense units in eastern Ukraine." "A CIA official claimed on the US embassy in Berlin's official Twitter page of the that no such incidents had taken place and that allegations by pro-Russian activists did not correspond to reality."
Plausible Deniability Plausible Deniability is a phrase coined by the CIA itself "to describe the withholding of information from senior officials in order to protect them from repercussions in the event that illegal or unpopular activities by the CIA became public knowledge."
Due to the fact that the denial comes through a Twitter post and not from an official CIA or FBI statement, or from the White House for that matter, and that the CIA/FBI is heavily involved in illegal operations in Ukraine and has been for decades, I would argue that it is a given that the CIA has lost officers, agents, mercenaries and support staff in Ukraine. That is almost a given, the only question is how many. Illegal Operation.
Due to the huge flow of information and the massive amount of reports, leaks and revelations there is little debate in the media about one simple fact and that fact is what is most troubling about the entire US/CIA/NATO/EU meddling in the sovereign affairs of Ukraine. To make matters worse the US/CIA/NATO/EU undeniably now have blood on their hands, not only that of Ukrainian civilians, Tatars and Russians but also of citizens of other countries.
The fact that is being ignored is that US/CIA/NATO/EU "operations" and meddling in Ukraine are ILLEGAL. From the overthrowing of the democratically elected government, to the shooting and murder of police, to the killing of anyone who is against the junta, to the backing and training of the Right Sector, and finally to the importing of US/CIA/Greystone and other mercenaries to kill Ukrainians, the entire "mission" is illegal.
The United States of America is involved in a dirty illegal war in a country it had no business in being in in the first place. The Ukrainian operation serves no us security interest, it is no "protecting American lives" and it does nothing for the American people, to advance democracy or human rights or anything else. US/NATO want missiles in Ukraine to further threaten Russia which has done nothing but to try to be friends and simply do business. CIA operations in Ukraine are illegal. Period. End of discussion.
I will not go into how many poor innocent Ukrainians have died or suffered in the Nuland coup and since, only to say that those who were burned alive and gassed and murdered in Odessa and other locations in Ukraine will not be forgotten and those responsible, whether they be CIA or nazi trash, will be held accountable.
CIA Recklessly Using Staff as Cannon Fodder This is a message most likely of interest to those poor CIA operatives in Ukraine who are blindly fulfilling the orders of the Agency, the Company, the Farm, Langley or whatever else you want to call it and the "Washington Elites" who have abrogated onto themselves the right to send you off to die in some far off land to fulfill their poorly though out geopolitical objectives and continue to propagate and wage the Cold War that they just can not seem to let go of. Also for all you members of the CIAs Special Operations Group, NAVY Seals, CIA/Greystone/Academi and the like who are operating in Ukraine. I am a humanist I suppose and am speaking to the human in all of you. I understand that when you signed up you were full of misdirected patriotism, perhaps full of prejudice and hate for "rag heads" and "terrorists" and the like and all you wanted to do was to serve your country and even proudly give your life for the Constitution, the security of the American people and for your "government of the people by the people and for the people". Honorable motivations (other than the racial hatred thing and love of killing of course) but what will you do when you find out you have been used? When your comrades and you are asked to kill women and children or provide intelligence and support for the killing of civilians whose only crime is that they speak Russian and do not want to be ruled by nazis? How will your wives and families feel back in America when they find out you died in some field near Slavyansk and your body was left there to rot because the US Government could not even admit on a Twitter post that you died fulfilling your mission?
There is no justification for what your "leaders" are asking you to do in Ukraine. There is no threat against America other than what they themselves are creating. The Russian people and the Russian Government, no matter how much they are demonize wish the American people and even you no harm. Look at Edward Snowden. He was CIA AND NSA and Russia gave him asylum because he saw the lies and understood the truth about the illegality that he was asked to take part in. Even this certified "enemy of the state" was protected by Russia.
I have written for the world audience and my readers about what is really happening in Ukraine for the last 6 months. Trying to get the truth out to the world and little has changed, now I ask you directly: you who are helping the nazi junta for the US Government, the CIA, Greystone, USAID and the like, stop what you are doing, you are killing innocent people, including your own highly trained citizens. I am pleading to you because your leaders, your president, you secretary of state are doing the bidding of someone other than the American people. Remember who you serve. Remember your Constitution. There is no legitimate reason for you to be subverting Ukraine. The central bankers, the military industrial complex and the Washington elite are not what you signed up to give your life for. Russia is not your enemy. Believe me. Neither is Ukraine. Your enemy and the enemy of all of us is sitting in Kiev right now (the nazi junta) and in Washingtons elite clubs and posh watering holes patting each other on the back for the million dollars they made today. Or is it billion? And for the way they have gotten you to unwittingly go along with their little plan. They must be laughing that you are prepared to die for them.
In the end you may die in some field near Slavyansk or some other Ukrainian city as you were involved in a "secret" operation to kill Christian women and children for the crime of being "pro-Russian" and they will deny that you exist and your body will rot somewhere in an unmarked grave. Is that what you signed up for?
Think about it. Look around you. What are you really doing? The views and opinions expressed above are my own. I can be reached at firstname.lastname@example.org.
The demon in the oval office cannot get enough blood, even the millions of abortions a year can not sate it.
I would sooner believe this Voice of Russia author than the Regime that currently runs the USA.
I’m not ashamed, either.
I once hated Russia, and I don’t love her now, but most of what this guy is saying is correct.
Yes, it is wrong. But no need to discuss you personal shortcomings.
The “650 Killed” figure is likely fantasy.
There have been several twitter rumors in recent days of mass desertions among the Army, though, as well as the report today that a Ukrainian “spetnaz” unit surrendered to the rebels near Donetsk.
There are also persistent twitter rumors of Ukrainian Army defecting to the locals.
Are they eating babies yet, according to Twitter?
The whole thing is likely a fantasy. The idea that the US administration would side against the Muslims in Ukraine is laughable.
How come they did not mention the UN? That alone tells you they’re serving up a Jim Jones Kool Aid cocktail. The Russians are consistent about one thing. That is lying. There’s no reason for the CIA or the FBI to operate as soldiers taking on the separatists. The folks doing that are Ukrainians. The majority of Ukrainians don’t want the Russians on their soil nor us. As the operation in Marupol showed, they can take care of business on their own.
Russia is using every means it has to confuse the issue and try to spread dissension.
The inability to discern fact from fiction on either side is just ONE MORE reason for the United States to stay out of this conflict. Nothing that can happen in Ukraine has any impact whatsoever upon our national security, so we have no business meddling there.
Well as far as I’m concerned this is all a turf war for government cartels. Ukraine is a strategically located nation for trafficking into EU. In the same way Mexico, is to the US.
Famed author, Samuel Hersh detailed Obama’s use of the US military to support Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaeda regimes in,The Red Line and the Rat. They aren’t just terrorist organizations, they are heroin traffickers.
Another strategic point is Syria. Benghazi was about arming Syrian rebels with $millions in cash, and weapons. The rebels are bombing the country, and have pledged allegiance to Al Qaeda a heroin cartel, and 160,000 people have died in that country.
US military is reported to be protecting the Afghan poppy fields, and heroin is flooding world markets. Russian officials have claimed that the heroin coming out of Afghanistan has killed over 500,000 people.
It is also consistent with the FEDS protecting the Sinaloa cartels. Fast and Furious was about Holder’s ATF giving the murderous Sinaloa gangs an arsenal of weapons. Sinaloa members have testified in court they had agreement with US Federal agents to traffic drugs in the US, specifically through Chicago.
Soros is running around dictating policy, and I have a strange fantasy that Putin will just help Soros meet his maker a little sooner. The Father of Lies should be waiting with open arms.
(National Guard) Ukraine shot soldiers gathered to the side of the militias
National Guard NKVD supposedly killed 10 Ukrainian Soldiers that wanted to “defect”. This is likely the incident outside of Slovyansk that has been tweeted about for several days now.
The coup government admitted to today that a group of soldiers has defected to the Donetsk Republic.
That’s an interesting standard: are we to think that the Cold war should not have been fought because either side used propaganda?
Soros is far too valuable to Putin as a propaganda tool. To Putin, Soros is better alive than dead.
Patriotic Americans are helping our Ukrainian allies kill our dirty rotten Russian enemies, and will continue to do so. Any American who supports Russia is a traitor and is helping Russia kill brave patriotic Americans.
All the Obama administration does at this point is lie.
“The Russians are consistent about one thing. That is lying. “
This man is clearly wrong. FBI agents aren’t being grunts on the eastern front. But its very likely, almost to a near certainty, that they and the CIA both have a mission to Kiev, advising them on how to suppress the uprising in the east.
That said, just a little thought exercise. You say the Russians are consistent about lying. Can you please tell us the last time after around WWII or Korea you believe our own government has been honest with the people, and not a consistent purveyor of lies, coverups, and misdirection at home?
The way I read the article is the Christians the US is opposing and the muslims they have and maybe are fighting for and with.
Very near the end it says "In the end you may die in some field near Slavyansk or some other Ukrainian city as you were involved in a "secret" operation to kill Christian women and children for the crime of being "pro-Russian" and they will deny that you exist and your body will rot somewhere in an unmarked grave. Is that what you signed up for? "
As is obama.
I’m sorry but I just can’t believe that Obama would do anything to harm his friend Vladimir with whom he promised to be ‘flexible’.
Nobody is expected to discern what of the enemy propaganda is a lie. But if your own government is 100% dishonest, its insane to follow them into a war. Cold or hot.
Unless of course some childlike part of a person simultaneously believes Obama is a Marxist, a revolutionary, a moslem sympathizer, raised abroad till age 18, and is animated by his dislike of everything American......and that he sometimes leads America in a pure and wholesome directions.
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