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Reparations Are Owed: Here are a few ways to pay the bill
Slate ^ | May 22, 2014 | Jamelle Bouie

Posted on 05/23/2014 6:33:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

A high school in Clinton, Tennessee, in December 1956. Reparations wouldn't just be about America's slaveholding era.

With “The Case for Reparations,” Ta-Nehisi Coates of the Atlantic sets slavery aside to focus on the long plunder of the 20th century, in which whites used coercion, violence, and government to exclude blacks from the bounty of American prosperity. The civil rights revolution of the 1960s was vital, but it wasn’t a panacea, and the problems of today—from the racial wealth gap to the crumbling ghettos of the Midwest—stem from the racist policies of our recent past. Or, as Coates puts it, “White supremacy is … a force so fundamental to America that it is difficult to imagine the country without it.”

This is more than rhetoric. Black families paid taxes and black soldiers fought for democracy in Europe and the Pacific, but—from low-interest home loans to money for education—they were barred from the benefits of the G.I. Bill. Indeed, the same federal dollars that built the suburbs were used to keep blacks out of them. It was the federal government that “pioneered the practice of redlining,” writes Coates, “selectively granting loans and insisting that any property it insured be covered by a restrictive covenant—a clause in the deed forbidding the sale of the property to anyone other than whites. Millions of dollars flowed from tax coffers into segregated white neighborhoods.” At the same time, “legislatures, mayors, civic associations, banks, and citizens all colluded to pin black people into ghettos, where they were overcrowded, overcharged, and undereducated.”(continued)

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: blackkk; blacks; demagogicparty; democratpolicies; reparations
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1 posted on 05/23/2014 6:33:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No.


2 posted on 05/23/2014 6:35:34 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not owed. None of this generation are slaves, except those that have yoked themselves to the neo-slavery welfare state plantation; let them seek “reparation” from the leftist Dems, that is, if they can break the chains they willingly put on themselves.


3 posted on 05/23/2014 6:37:36 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Two rubs to this.

1) Once reparations were theoretically paid, here would be no obligation to support them after the wad was blown through in six months.

2) If you are paying for past grievances, we can go back a 100,000 years to tribal conflicts. There is no end.


4 posted on 05/23/2014 6:37:49 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How many trillions of dollars has been given to blacks since 1965?


5 posted on 05/23/2014 6:38:58 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I agree they owe reparations to the whites who fought and died for their freedom in America’s bloodiest war.

And who have spent trillions on them while they took drugs screwed around and squandered every opportunity.

If we are going to talk racial stereotypes then let’s cut the lies.


6 posted on 05/23/2014 6:42:11 PM PDT by Williams
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Not just no but hell no! Are they then going to pay reparations to the hundreds of thousand who fought and lost lives and limbs to free them? Are we going to deduct the decades of special treatment and funding given to them at the exclusion of others? My ancestors in Hungary were enslaved and had their property stolen several times, not to mention most recently by the Allies and then MF Russia, who is going to pay me reparations? Am I not special because the racists call me White?
7 posted on 05/23/2014 6:44:35 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Williams

Pity party contests can get so INTERESTING can’t they.


8 posted on 05/23/2014 6:44:56 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'd support "reparations" if it included renouncing their American citizenship forever and expatriation to another country.

Anything short of that is to spit on the grave of the hundreds of thousands of white soldiers who died freeing the slaves.

If the blood sacrifice of strangers - of another race - doesn't wipe out all debts, then I say hand them a few bucks and say good-bye.

And good riddance to bad rubbish.

9 posted on 05/23/2014 6:45:25 PM PDT by Gluteus Maximus
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10 posted on 05/23/2014 6:46:28 PM PDT by Dallas59 ("Remember me as you pass by, As you are now, so once was I, As I am now, so you will be")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Reparations again? Okay, some black girl can have the sweat off my sack...I’m finished with that anyway.


11 posted on 05/23/2014 6:46:44 PM PDT by Mich Patriot (Pitch black is the new "transparent.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Comments?”

I suggest the Democrats go for it. Put on the full court press. Put actual legislation on the table. Make sure the reparations are funded by an immediate expropriation of property from every white person in America — no borrowing from China or printing money. What is the right amount. Take 20% to 30% of the net worth of every white American of every age, no exception. They must feel pain in order to acknowledge and atone for the sins of their race.

Let’s have a real national debate on the topic. Then put it to a vote in Congress and see what happens, whether it passes or not.


12 posted on 05/23/2014 6:48:46 PM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I will find it exceedingly difficult to ever respect anyone accepting these “reparations”. I judge people by their character.


13 posted on 05/23/2014 6:52:01 PM PDT by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

360,222 Union casualties pretty much says PAID IN FULL as far as I’m concerned.


14 posted on 05/23/2014 6:52:05 PM PDT by technically right
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Tell them that there’s no money left for reparations — zero and Moochelle spent it all.


15 posted on 05/23/2014 6:54:43 PM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (It is no more than a dream remembered, a Civilization gone with the wind.)
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To: Gluteus Maximus

Hey big butt, right on!


16 posted on 05/23/2014 6:55:30 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I owe nothing to anyone of any color except to be self sufficient and not sponge off of them.

I’m sick of this sh1t.


17 posted on 05/23/2014 6:56:09 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nothing is owed


18 posted on 05/23/2014 6:56:47 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
No. I am sorry it happened, but I am sorry a whole bunch of other ill has happened in the world as well.

The costs of slavery have far exceeded any "benefit" of slavery.

If, and it's a huge if, we ever want to have some degree of assimilation in this country, the reparations talk has got to cease.

19 posted on 05/23/2014 6:57:24 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The longer this idiotic idea hangs around, the longer it will take for individual blacks to escape the chains of their own diseased culture and find out there is nothing holding them back save their own expectations.


20 posted on 05/23/2014 6:57:51 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance on parade.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In simple practical terms, how do you ever get this operational?

Only white people pay? What about someone who’s half-white, do they pay a “half-share”? Quarter-race = quarter-share?

Similarly, who receives? If you’re half-black you get a half-share? etc.

So there’s gonna be government-administered tests for racial purity? That smacks of the Nazis.

This scheme is going nowhere except in the minds of black racists.


21 posted on 05/23/2014 6:59:42 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I think a fair question to ask is, “Who among you descendants of slaves would be better off in Africa if your ancestors were not enslaved in America?”
22 posted on 05/23/2014 7:00:03 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If you believe in migration theory, Blacks kicked my ancestors out of Africa. So maybe they owe me reparations.


23 posted on 05/23/2014 7:01:27 PM PDT by fini
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Considering that almost every ethnic, tribal or national group of people in the world have, at one time or another, been slaves to another ethnic, tribal or national group ... what the hell is their particular problem?

We have been paying reparations since LBJ ... enough already.

The Jewish people have been slaves to more nations than any other group over the years, yet you don’t hear them bellyaching over reparations.

Mayhap if they got up off their welfare supplied couches busted their asses like everyone else, their problems would go away.

Rant off.


24 posted on 05/23/2014 7:02:06 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m descended from a 12 year old Londoner who was lured onto a ship and sold into indentured servitude, do I get reparations for that?


25 posted on 05/23/2014 7:05:04 PM PDT by abishai
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Those “dollars flowing into white neighborhoods” were not tax dollars, the VA home loans were from private funds but the mortgages were government-insured. This guy shows his moron at every turn.

Once they get their wish list totaled up, I’ll start on the minus column with every LBJ dollar since 1965. Bet the whiners end up owing everybody else...


26 posted on 05/23/2014 7:11:23 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
With “The Case for Reparations,” Ta-Nehisi Coates of the Atlantic sets slavery aside to focus on the long plunder of the 20th century

At least the racist thieves are realizing the slavery dog won't hunt anymore.

27 posted on 05/23/2014 7:12:01 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: canuck_conservative

This would tear apart the country.

Descendants of Union soldiers would have to pay?

Descendants of Europeans who arrived long after slavery ended would have to pay.

What about Asians or Latin Americans? Would they have to pay?

Government is not God and doesn’t have the knowledge or Wisdom to right all wrongs.

This is the underlying problem today. The left is trying to make Government God.


28 posted on 05/23/2014 7:16:51 PM PDT by crusher2013
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To: abishai

And those of us of Irish descent? Remember “No Irish allowed”? Or “No Irish need apply”?


29 posted on 05/23/2014 7:16:58 PM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

none are due reparations now or ever!


30 posted on 05/23/2014 7:18:50 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

since the Civil Rights Act, blacks have had privilege-hiring in government, state and local governments, sports leagues and private and corporate America. Same with enrollments in universities, where testing has been adjusted to allow for cultural differences and where tuitions are largely free to blacks due to the abundance of grants, as Coates, I’m sure, is well aware of. We have heard Coates diatribe before - in the 60’s. Some people just can’t move on - or rather, they’d rather blame white people for some black peoples’ inability to move on over the past 60 years to a life of accomplishments, thanks to the Dem party who profits in power most by keeping the black populace feeling victimized.


31 posted on 05/23/2014 7:26:53 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The only thing this IQ-of-85 tree-stump would be satisfied with is being given white slaves.
32 posted on 05/23/2014 7:37:56 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: Soul of the South
Then put it to a vote in Congress and see what happens

Maybe a civil war is what happens.

33 posted on 05/23/2014 7:41:23 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Reparations were paid in the form of blood and lives on a thousand battlefields from 1861-1865.

For every five blacks freed, one white soldier gave the ultimate sacrifice of his life, and many others lost arms and legs.


34 posted on 05/23/2014 7:45:33 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Gluteus Maximus

Excellent rebuttal.


35 posted on 05/23/2014 7:46:23 PM PDT by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN (girl type))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah...anyone who is democrat pay these race card whores off—Republicans were the party that fought for minority rights, so they don’t owe anyone.

Next-—when are we going to have to pay women “reparations” for their “oppression”?

Next-—when are people gonna grow up?


36 posted on 05/23/2014 7:51:14 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Mortrey

Pretty soon, white males are gonna DESERVE reparations!

They’re CONSTANTLY being downtrodden, ridiculed, oppressed, insulted, disenfranchised, and THEY BUILT THIS COUNTRY.


37 posted on 05/23/2014 7:53:47 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Slavery has been a common condition for most of human history, among all races. Every race and culture has experienced it - it’s still around, especially in mohammedan dominated areas and in Africa. I myself am of Slavic descent - my ancestors were enslaved so often that that’s where the word comes from. If it weren’t for old white guys in England and the US that decided that slavery is too barbaric to be tolerated by civilized people, it would still be common everywhere. So no.


38 posted on 05/23/2014 7:55:37 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: Olog-hai

Reparation?

Go see Andersonville National Historic Site, Georgia.

Paid in full!!


39 posted on 05/23/2014 8:06:35 PM PDT by Ricebug
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This might sound crude, but the best think that ever happened to blacks in the Americas was that their ancestors were brought over the ocean as slaves. The law of unintended consequences. Blacks in the Americas on average live far better lives than African blacks. There is no African Oprah unless it’s the wife of a typical, thieving black strongman.


40 posted on 05/23/2014 8:11:18 PM PDT by driftless2 (:-))
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To: Jack Hydrazine

“How many trillions of dollars has been given to blacks since 1965?”

I read once years ago it was enough to make everyone from the Rockies to the Mississippi a millionaire.


41 posted on 05/23/2014 8:21:26 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: Soul of the South

What if they are ‘half-white’ ?

It gets kind of difficult doesn’t it ?


42 posted on 05/23/2014 8:35:59 PM PDT by sunrise_sunset
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To: Jack Hydrazine

“How many trillions of dollars has been given to blacks since 1965?”

...and, things have gotten worse. My parents and I paid a great deal in taxes for the war on poverty, and frankly, the people and government who conducted the war did a spectacularly crappy job - the numbers speak for themselves. It’s too late for my mom and dad, but I would like a partial refund as -my- reparations, with, of course, interest. Because I am older, it would be most convenient if these started as soon as possible.


43 posted on 05/23/2014 8:36:44 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Black families paid taxes and black soldiers fought for democracy in Europe and the Pacific, but—from low-interest home loans to money for education—they were barred from the benefits of the G.I. Bill.

Flatly untrue, at least with regard to the education benefits. The program may have been administered unfairly, and blacks had difficulty accessing the programs for many reasons, including colleges that wouldn't accept them.

But they were not barred by law from the programs.

44 posted on 05/23/2014 8:38:47 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Reaparations ?

My relatives paid their own way to the United States.
Islamo warloards still take captives and sell them into slavery !
Islamo slavery is endorsed by this current FED Govt. to this day Slavery exsists to this day , and our FED Govt. supports these Islamo slavers, even to this day.
If Slaves are owed reparations, ..then also , my relatives are owed reparations for their bought oceanliner transport tickets.
If slaves , sold by other African blacks are owed reparations for building up this nation,
then my relatives , and their peroginy are ellgible for reparations as well !!

GROW up !! realize your blessings .. or go back to Africa.
I wish that I could afford to go back to Ireland !
You don't know what you have until you have lost your heritage
Reparations .. BrewHa ha, ha, ha ha !!
Reparations or go back to a third world country - what a choice !!
At least you have a choice in this country !

45 posted on 05/23/2014 8:43:23 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Political Correctness is Tyranny .. with manners ! Charlton Heston)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The democrats believe in reparations. Their party is the one that stopped blacks from receiving 40 acres and a mule, so the democrats should be the one who pay. Works out perfectly. They believe it should be paid and they are the ones responsible for paying. I don’t see any problem here at all. They won’t have enough money to back any candidates for some time but they will be living up to their beliefs.


46 posted on 05/23/2014 8:43:57 PM PDT by Waryone
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To: Williams

Stereotypes survive for a reason. If they weren’t valid in peoples minds they would be quickly forgotten as not relative.
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47 posted on 05/23/2014 8:45:16 PM PDT by glyptol
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Muh-uh! No way!

WHile those alleged slaves were being freed, my forebears were getting their asses kicked over in eastern Europe/Russia.

Over 30 years ago, I got mugged by 2 black perps in downtown L.A. Among other crap, they told me, "We don't care if we kill you 'cause you white."

Have been called "fat-assed whie bitch" by certain minority indivduals who did't like being asked to not loiter on the property where I was renting; perhaps they were really casing the oint--who knows?

Got called an "oppressor" by a black female because I asked a different black female not to crack her gum in my face)!) Yeah, sure... who's oppressing whom?

At any rate, I have felt oppressed by certain miniorities, and I could sure use some reparations. Where do I go to demand them?

48 posted on 05/23/2014 8:46:43 PM PDT by pbmaltzman
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Exactly. Offer every African-American a lump-sum payment (TBD) in exchange for a lifetime denial of any form of public assistance.


49 posted on 05/23/2014 8:48:27 PM PDT by huckfillary
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Exactly. Offer every African-American a lump-sum payment (TBD) in exchange for a lifetime denial of any form of public assistance.


50 posted on 05/23/2014 8:48:45 PM PDT by huckfillary
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