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Blending In and Survivalist Hate
SHTF School ^ | 5/23/14 | Selco

Posted on 05/23/2014 8:30:41 PM PDT by Kartographer

It is OK if you think that government is corrupt and incompetent, I think that too.

It is OK to have weapon in your home, and will and knowledge to use it, and it is very good if you think that TV is full of crap.

I think too that S. is gonna hit the fan, and that it makes sense to have bug out location and bug out bag, and lots of cans and ammo.

So we are clear that we agree that all of the above (and lots more) make perfect sense. But one thing does not make sense and that is to let everyone else know that you are thinking like this.

Why?

Because it makes you different from (great) majority of folks around you, and what should be one of the basic and first imperatives?

(Excerpt) Read more at shtfschool.com ...


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Selco with more good advise.

Believe me there are even more than a few FReepers who are ardent prepper haters who will turn on you if they can in a heart beat should the shtf. Don't believe me? Go back and read some of my prepper threads.

1 posted on 05/23/2014 8:30:41 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


2 posted on 05/23/2014 8:31:18 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
Be the grey man.

The Grey Man Directive

3 posted on 05/23/2014 8:47:56 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Kartographer

How do I find my local survival group? Do I connect with the nearest Tea Party or network through people I meet at a shooting range?


4 posted on 05/23/2014 9:04:15 PM PDT by conservativeimage.com (I Won't Go Underground http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wema3CNqzvg)
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To: TADSLOS

I had a good friend who was a Romulan. not literally, of course, but he could just be completely unnoticed in any room or group of people, to the point of startling them when he finally talked, even though he’d been standing there for minutes, born with a cloaking device. Exact opposite of charisma, two minutes later Sherlock Holmes would have a difficult time describing him; I played music with him for 17 years semi-professionally (he was a brilliant drummer) and it would still be hard to do a police sketch.


5 posted on 05/23/2014 9:07:48 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: conservativeimage.com

Start visiting the local Army Surplus stores.


6 posted on 05/23/2014 9:13:58 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: conservativeimage.com

The Mormons can be a good source of like minded folks who have a lot of institutional knowledge and often will share it for the asking.

Cody Lundin points out that building good relationships with your neighbors -if they are decent people- can create one of the strongest survival strategies; a few folks who know, trust and live near each other are going to have a much better chance of survival and a better standard of living during any ensuing period of stress. Around here we have had informal neighborhood discussions about what to do when the quake hits, where we’d set up sanitation, who has generators. Grow your own survival group, so to speak.


7 posted on 05/23/2014 9:14:10 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: conservativeimage.com
conservativeimage.com:" How do I find my local survival group?"

Do your homework BEFORE you need them .
Check out 'prepper"sites , as well as 'Survivalist' sites.
The time of preparation is NOT when the SHTF ! If so , you are already out of luck !
Have a 'Bug in ' program already set up, as well as a 'bug out' plan, if things get nasty !
The time to prepare is not when it is alrady hitting the fan !
Boy Scout motto : " BE PREPARED " !!

8 posted on 05/23/2014 9:14:39 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Political Correctness is Tyranny .. with manners ! Charlton Heston)
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To: TADSLOS

Thanks for the site! Good info.


9 posted on 05/23/2014 9:18:33 PM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: conservativeimage.com

Place and ad in the personals.


10 posted on 05/23/2014 9:34:03 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: ansel12

Visiting to purchase AND network? I’m ready for 7 days solo but I have zero relationships which is what I’m most concerned about now. Just don’t know where to start looking for that.


11 posted on 05/23/2014 9:40:40 PM PDT by conservativeimage.com (I Won't Go Underground http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wema3CNqzvg)
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To: miliantnutcase
from Selco Article: " : ..In short, very good policy.
People have somehow strange picture that people who are most noticed have best chance for surviving.

Blend into the community, .. become the 'grey man' (un noticeable)
Move supplies during the night
Know your neighbors , and their skills (ie: mechanic , contractor, gardener, gunsmith , masonry, etc.)
Have an unremakable residence , not an ostentacious "Mc- Mansion" , just something that meets your needs.
Have food and supplies that you are willing to give up, so that your family survival supplies remain intact (deception).
Cache supplies hidden either in the house , or buried outdoors ( food, weapons , ammo , tools, etc. )
Do not wear ostentatious clothing such as Camo, ghillle suit, armlament, armoured vest, to your neighbors.
The intent is for you to 'blend in' to the neighborhood, while 'prepareing', quietly .

12 posted on 05/23/2014 9:48:15 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Political Correctness is Tyranny .. with manners ! Charlton Heston)
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To: Kartographer

Well we are one of only two people who have good sized gardens in our neighborhood, but that’s life. So I guess we already stand out.

We have loads of dandelions, so I plan to forage those, and other stuff, so that they know we don’t have lots of stuff to eat, because if we did we wouldn’t have to gather weeds.

One lady decided to try and grow some squash seeds that she got free in the mail, but that was it.

The other people with gardens are on the other block, and we have sometimes traded tomato starts.


13 posted on 05/23/2014 9:56:44 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Kartographer

save for later.


14 posted on 05/23/2014 10:11:02 PM PDT by Conservative4Ever (waiting for my Magic 8 ball to give me an answer)
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To: Kartographer
How many people does it take to keep a secret?

One. After that, it isn't a secret any more.

15 posted on 05/23/2014 10:11:19 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: conservativeimage.com

I wasn’t sure what you were saying there about 7 days solo, and networking, and zero relationships, but if you start visiting the Surplus stores and talking about the gear and to the clerks, you should be able to find out where prepper type events are taking place, and what they do.

If you are enjoying a conversation, then invite whoever you are talking to, to come over for BBQ and beers.


16 posted on 05/23/2014 10:12:52 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

“Have food and supplies that you are willing to give up, so that your family survival supplies remain intact (deception).”

That’s something I do need to work on. Once I get a basement for the real storage, it will be easier to figure out.


17 posted on 05/23/2014 10:27:03 PM PDT by yorkiemom
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To: yorkiemom
“Have food and supplies that you are willing to give up, so that your family survival supplies remain intact (deception).”

Consider doing the same for ammo
If someone is "raiding" for more supplies, if you remove the gunpowder from ammo, the primer,alone , will lodge the lead in the barrel
and result in an exploding gun barrel, when the perp really needs it, perhaps leading to his demise !

18 posted on 05/23/2014 10:43:43 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Political Correctness is Tyranny .. with manners ! Charlton Heston)
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To: conservativeimage.com
Visit meetup.com and do a search on ‘survival’ ... it will change your life in a most positive way.
19 posted on 05/23/2014 11:10:35 PM PDT by The Duke ("Forgiveness is between them and God, it's my job to arrange the meeting.")
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To: RedStateRocker

A stealther....


20 posted on 05/23/2014 11:25:36 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: TADSLOS

Thanks.


21 posted on 05/24/2014 6:41:31 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Good idea, thx.


22 posted on 05/24/2014 7:08:16 AM PDT by yorkiemom
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To: ansel12

We started our neighborhood watch about 9 years ago. Using that as a starting point we got to know who is and who isn’t worth a damn. From that initial group we built a small cadre of like minded folks we are reasonably sure we can depend on when the time comes.

Nothing is 100% of course, but it’s a good start.


23 posted on 05/24/2014 7:10:28 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: TADSLOS

Good stuff. Thanks for the link.


24 posted on 05/24/2014 7:42:40 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: Kartographer

So true Kart. Desparate people do desparate things. Selco is right in that you really will not be able to help other people when the SHTF.

Mr. GG2 and I have gone around about this several times. I am a naturally generous person and it took me a long time to harden my heart on this subject. When things get really bad you have to take care of your family and everyone else is on their own.


25 posted on 05/24/2014 7:59:14 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Kartographer

The biggest danger for those who survive the first month will be the roving packs of cannibals.


26 posted on 05/24/2014 8:33:20 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

You would have thought you would have read the article first before commenting.


27 posted on 05/24/2014 9:13:30 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Thank you.


28 posted on 05/24/2014 9:23:25 AM PDT by Silentgypsy (Mind your atomic bonds.)
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To: TADSLOS

Thanks for link.


29 posted on 05/24/2014 9:24:06 AM PDT by Silentgypsy (Mind your atomic bonds.)
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To: Kartographer
When SHTF, I mean real SHTF, most of the people will not like you because you are prepared, people will hate you, even if you help them. They will hate you because you are prepared and you have food, water, weapon and shelter for you and your family, and they do not have anything like that.

Just like America is hated even while other countries are cashing bazillion dollar aid checks from us. Lesson long learned.

30 posted on 05/24/2014 10:13:20 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Mariner
The biggest danger for those who survive the first month will be the roving packs of cannibals.

Not if there's a skeleton with a few empty bottles of bbq sauce hanging at your gate.

31 posted on 05/24/2014 10:22:19 AM PDT by bgill
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To: The Duke; ansel12

Brilliant. Thank you.


32 posted on 05/24/2014 10:37:32 AM PDT by conservativeimage.com (I Won't Go Underground http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wema3CNqzvg)
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To: conservativeimage.com; The Duke

That Duke post was eye opening, I didn’t know about that source, I may use it myself for some classes.


33 posted on 05/24/2014 10:57:50 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12
Before I began participating in local meetup groups I probably had 2 semi-close, work-related friends in this world. Now I've got countless prepper friends from all walks of life spread across the country. The invitations to learning evenings and hunting trips have been non-stop. And for the most part these are some of the finest people I've ever known. ... FWIW. :)

Of course they have these groups for virtually any topic you can imagine.

34 posted on 05/24/2014 11:54:54 AM PDT by The Duke ("Forgiveness is between them and God, it's my job to arrange the meeting.")
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To: TADSLOS

Boy, in SHTF as a freckled red head I’m pretty well toast aren’t I?


35 posted on 05/24/2014 12:54:11 PM PDT by conservativeimage.com (I Won't Go Underground http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wema3CNqzvg)
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To: conservativeimage.com

You are so screwed.


36 posted on 05/24/2014 3:09:05 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Kartographer

We used to have a guy on the prepper threads who would brag about how he’d rob each and every one of us of our hard-earned preps. The personal way in which he did that was downright creepy!

On one of those, when he was harrassing a mother and telling her how he’d torture her kids and use her for a plaything, I offered to let him have all my jars of home-canned foods that didn’t process correctly.

He hasn’t been seen since.


37 posted on 05/24/2014 3:32:06 PM PDT by Ellendra ("Laws were most numerous when the Commonwealth was most corrupt." -Tacitus)
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To: conservativeimage.com

My suggestion would be to sound like you’re curious about prepping but don’t know where to start. People will give you advice, some good and some bad, but if you’re always the newbie, they’re less likely to think of you when they need somebody to mooch off of.


38 posted on 05/24/2014 3:36:24 PM PDT by Ellendra ("Laws were most numerous when the Commonwealth was most corrupt." -Tacitus)
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To: Kartographer

I hate running out of ammo.


39 posted on 05/24/2014 3:37:02 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Mariner

“The biggest danger for those who survive the first month will be the roving packs of cannibals.”

Roving implies they will get off their dead azz and do something. Not going to happen.
To my son at a track meet “Why do people here run so fast and walk so slow?”


40 posted on 05/24/2014 3:39:18 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Kartographer
more than a few FReepers who are ardent prepper haters who will turn on you if they can in a heart beat

Don't believe me? Go back and read some of my prepper threads.

How about doing us all the favor of just posting the names of those haters.................You can also repost the threads if you like.

41 posted on 05/24/2014 3:47:13 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Under Reagan spring always arrived on time.....)
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To: Kartographer
With that being said, I may have responded to one of your posts by saying that if the SHTF, folks will likely turn a blind eye considering they've got their jobs, their mortgages, their payments on their boats and their new Ford Trucks.

If they've got time to spend away from their kid's weekend little league or soccer game, they just might join you............

Till then, it ain't going to happen..............

Carry on........LOL!

42 posted on 05/24/2014 3:53:00 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Under Reagan spring always arrived on time.....)
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To: Kartographer

Oh, and for the record, I’m not a hater, just a realist who has the ability to rcognize the internet brodadoccio for what it is .........


43 posted on 05/24/2014 3:56:51 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Under Reagan spring always arrived on time.....)
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To: Hot Tabasco

What you are is covered in Selco’s article. You would have known that if you had bothered to read it.


44 posted on 05/24/2014 4:35:29 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
What you are is covered in Selco’s article.

If that's the best argument you can offer then you've pretty much proven my point.

But then again, you've never disproven my statement on similar threads you've posted in the past.........

The revolution won't be televised because you and all the rest of your chest thumping braggarts will be too busy at home......"Count me in but not this weekend, I've got the grandkids.....maybe next weekend"


45 posted on 05/24/2014 4:50:14 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Under Reagan spring always arrived on time.....)
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To: Mariner

They will not be a problem after they eat a few fat $ss left wing nut jobs. 95% bull shit slow fat and stupid. Most of them don’t know what real food looks like if it’s not from a drive up window.


46 posted on 05/24/2014 4:59:45 PM PDT by lostboy61 (Lock and Load and stand your ground!)
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To: yorkiemom

Airtight containers. Basements tend to be damp in many places.


47 posted on 05/24/2014 5:03:40 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Hot Tabasco; Kartographer; All
and yet you Hot Tabasco keep following Kart around like a hound on a scent... Your (HT) antagonistic attitude, in my opinion, belies your statement of "I'm not a prepper hater".
48 posted on 05/24/2014 7:53:51 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

If you didn’t read the argument then how do you know if its good or bad? Because you don’t care to argue facts you just want to state your opinion.

You claim I brag in these prepper post, well back up your words and show one post in which I bragged.


49 posted on 05/24/2014 9:29:30 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Post #45 Proof of the truth of Selco’s words.


50 posted on 05/24/2014 9:30:54 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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