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The Daily Beast: Knife Deaths Aren't as Important as Gun Deaths
Breitbart's Big Journalism ^ | May 27, 2014 | AWR Hawkins

Posted on 05/28/2014 5:06:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

On May 27, The Daily Beast's Cliff Schecter took a different tact from other gun control proponents, who have simply ignored the fact that Elliot Rodger stabbed and killed as many people as he shot and killed, when he tried to lessen the significance of that fact by saying stabbing victims in other recent mass attacks were not killed.

In other words, the fact that the same number of people died from knife wounds as died from bullet wounds in Santa Barbara means nothing because stabbings do not consistently kill.

Here are Schecter's exact words:

"And although, tragically, three young men were killed after being stabbed by the killer in Santa Barbara, perhaps the clearest comparison between gun violence and knife violence is provided by looking at the attack that occurred at a Chinese school in the Henen Province the very same day as the [heinous crime at Sandy Hook Elementary]. Twenty-three students were attacked in Henen and none died – as opposed to 20 murdered at Sandy Hook Elementary. Or how about the 22 injured in a knife attack at a school in Pittsburgh this past April? Nobody died there either."

Schecter went on to say knives "can't kill as impersonally, as many, as fast or as at far a distance." He said he has never heard of "presidents [being] knifed from book depositories (or grassy knolls, whatever your preference)."

And of course, knives cannot be hated as much as guns because knives don't have a "powerful lobby"(continued)

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: banglist; california; guncontrol; ucsb
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1 posted on 05/28/2014 5:06:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thought it was a Machete


2 posted on 05/28/2014 5:07:58 PM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Hey, I wouldn't have a problem hearing about one hit on a golf course.....
3 posted on 05/28/2014 5:11:35 PM PDT by fedupjohn (America...Designed by Geniuses...Now inhabited by Idiots..Palin 2016...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In general guns are more effective than knives, especially at any distance. On the other hand, a guy who knows what he is doing just might be more deadly with the right edged weapon up close.

Didn’t Juan Corona kill all his huge number of victims with a machete?


4 posted on 05/28/2014 5:12:25 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hoplophobia is a serious disease.


5 posted on 05/28/2014 5:14:03 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: yarddog

We did police training with a harmless rubber knife with an assailant coming at you from about 20 yards away. It’s amazing how quickly that person can be upon you as you try to stop him with your pistol. Plus knives don’t make any noise to alert other potential victims.


6 posted on 05/28/2014 5:15:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have always had an innate fear of swords and machetes at least in the couple of times an idiot was playing with them near me.


7 posted on 05/28/2014 5:17:42 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wonder what the Boston Bombers used to indiscriminately kill people.

Outlaw guns....they use knives....outlaw knives (practically a reality in UK)....they use homemade bombs. Crazed killers will always find a way.


8 posted on 05/28/2014 5:23:29 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: yarddog
I spent 8 hours a day with a knife in my hand for years when I worked in military and commercial kitchens. Up real close (and inside... my ears), I'd prefer a knife. If you know what you are doing, you can stop someone almost instantly.

Ask any of the pigs I've slaughtered with just a knife. Oops, can't. They got turned into sausages and smoked pork.

9 posted on 05/28/2014 5:24:00 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

GRAMMAR ALERT!!!

On May 27, The Daily Beast’s Cliff Schecter took a different tact

should be:

On May 27, The Daily Beast’s Cliff Schecter took a different TACK.

Like a sailing ship.


10 posted on 05/28/2014 5:25:35 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The usual two-bit sophism from someone whose view of the deaths of young people is calibrated by how far they serve to advance his political agenda. In any other field this sort of monomaniacal obsession would be cause for intervention; in politics he’s just another liberal.


11 posted on 05/28/2014 5:26:58 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Give me some help here.

HOw many people died by knife

HOw many people died by gun

HOw manuy people died by car

How many injured by knife

HOw many people injured by gun

HOw manuy people injured by car

I cannot seem to find a straight answer in the press.


12 posted on 05/28/2014 5:28:00 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Ramius; 300winmag; IrishCatholic; lookout88; Wpin; spetznaz; Smokin' Joe; ...
thanks, for the post...
SWORD PING!...

13 posted on 05/28/2014 5:31:39 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Bathhouse/"Rustler" Reid? d8-)
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To: Chickensoup; All
I cannot seem to find a
straight answer in the press.
and you won't really find one from the liberals...
To the liberals, Knife attacks, don't fit the overall liberal mindset/template
, only guns, are evil, not the person
pulling the trigger...dead is dead, blame the firearm.

14 posted on 05/28/2014 5:40:49 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Bathhouse/"Rustler" Reid? d8-)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There’s a lot of Sandy Hook style confusion going on out there in the “media” right now about this “massacre” but if what I heard today, the three guys who were stabbed were Asians. If these news reports are correct, Schecter sounds like he may be a racist. He also thinks the three people who were stabbed aren’t as dead as those who were shot.


15 posted on 05/28/2014 5:43:30 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That one kid who went rampant in a school injuring 22 people could have easily killed them. With a knife. I think one or two people died(?)


16 posted on 05/28/2014 5:59:35 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Intereferes With Justice. And Pay Your Liberty Tax Citizen.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Shhhhh, now they will come for my pocket knife!


17 posted on 05/28/2014 6:06:20 PM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ("There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It is completely useless arguing with these Communist a**clowns. We've been doing it for years, and anyone with a room temperature IQ knows we're right. But their minds are already made up, so why bother beating our heads against the wall trying to sway them?

What we need to tell them is simple...Molon Labe! Bring it on, bitches...put your money where your mouths are.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

18 posted on 05/28/2014 6:07:39 PM PDT by wku man (We are the 53%! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUXN0GDuLN4)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

> ...he has never heard of “presidents [being] knifed from book depositories (or grassy knolls, whatever your preference).” <

Before the invention of guns, assassins with knives did a pretty good job on Julius Caesar. It had to be done from close up, but they were willing to do so.

Admittedly nowadays guns (or bombs) would be more effective for assassinations and mass murders. If the killers are willing to switch to serial killing, though, the knife could be effective too.

Another thing to bear in mind is that though guns can be effective in committing mass murders, they can also be effective in defending against them. It’s more difficult for a single wacko with a gun to mass-murder people if some of them are armed.


19 posted on 05/28/2014 6:21:07 PM PDT by GJones2 (Assassins with knifes)
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To: muir_redwoods

Civil war is the worst of all national diseases. And it’s on the way. Recognize the symptoms, those who wish to survive.


20 posted on 05/28/2014 7:25:03 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If a nut job wants to kill, they’ll kill.
They will kill with a gun, a pick up truck, a pressure cooker, knives, baseball bat or an axe.


21 posted on 05/28/2014 8:00:24 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

et tu brute?


22 posted on 05/28/2014 8:02:37 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"'Tis but a flesh wound! Come back you ninny, and fight like a man!" (Monty Python reference)

Mrs. Joe's ancestors were pretty well feared for their ability to make fillet of captive (while the captive was protesting, of course)...

Tough to do that with a firearm...

But, by all means, don't get the hoplophobes started on edged weaponry, or we'll be carving our steaks with plastic butter knives.

23 posted on 05/28/2014 8:05:57 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: yarddog
I have always had an innate fear of swords and machetes at least in the couple of times an idiot was playing with them near me.

I have no fear of a sword or a machete.

I am, however, ever wary of idiots. They can do incredible damage with even the most commonplace and mundane items.

24 posted on 05/28/2014 8:08:38 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: All

I always carry a folder.

Usually a 4” serrated edge.

Nasty piece of steel.


25 posted on 05/28/2014 10:34:37 PM PDT by Rodney Dangerfield (Has any President in history sunk to such a level of self-flattery & validation-seeking?)
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