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Greenfield: Twilight of the Family
Sultan Knish blog ^ | Sunday, June 01, 2014 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 06/01/2014 4:07:35 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell

Sunday, June 01, 2014

Twilight of the Family

Posted by Daniel Greenfield @ the Sultan Knish blog

For most of human history the family was the basic social unit of the species. Family was a way of passing down genes, beliefs and wealth. It was a retirement plan that you paid into by keeping your children alive long enough for them to grow up and support you. It allowed the individual to pass on his ideas to people who would care about them because they were part of their heritage. Family was a collective endeavor, small enough to reflect the individual. It was a practical and philosophical aim that made life beautiful and meaningful.

But who really needs it anymore?

The basic practical functions of the family have been replaced by the nanny state. It is the nanny that takes over the care and teaching of the child as soon as possible. And when their parents grow old, it is that same nanny that oversees their care and death.

Governments have come to serve as undying guardians of human society, ushering new life into the world and ushering old life out of it. New parents are as likely to turn to the government for help as they are to their extended family. When their child is old enough to look around for a career, it is the government that they expect to provide the education and the jobs. And when they grow old, the child can keep on working at his government job and paying off his student loans knowing that the government will be there to make all the difficult and expensive decisions about their care.

With all that taken care of, who needs parents or children anyway?

People once had children to pass on wealth, genes and beliefs. But wealth is now thought to be the collective property of society, which is taxed to death or often just given away on some quixotic quest to stamp out disease in Africa or illiteracy in Antarctica. The thought of passing on genes carries with it a tinge of racism for the European and European-descended populations whose birth rates are dropping, but raises no such concerns for minority groups with high birth rates. That only leaves beliefs, which are also thought to be the collective property of the society and the state. Public education, mandatory in some countries, means that the best way to reproduce your beliefs is not to have children, but to get a job as a teacher.

The family has been displaced and replaced. In some places it is even repressed. Like an old station wagon, it idles by the side of the road, while its former owners drive away in their new sleek electric government compact car built for two or a micro-car built for one into a wonderful childless future of unfunded pensions, social collapse and death panels.

Marriage rates have dropped sharply. Not only is divorce more commonplace, but many couples aren't even bothering to marry at all. And many of those who do marry don't bother having children. Childfree is the new Zero Population Growth, not on behalf of the planet, but on behalf of the self. Modern society has made the price of children extremely expensive and many couples have found it easier to end the family with their own deaths.

The future of the West has been aborted or never conceived. It has been broken up, divorced and never married.

The state gave its citizens the impression that it could fulfill all the functions of a family far better than the real thing. Its appeal was the power of bigness, the stability of a system too big to fail and rooms full of experts working night and day to improve on the fallible family. With its vast industrial social services bureaucracy, the state would be able to provide a more stable social safety net, save everyone money on health care, educate their children, care for their elders, perpetuate their values, protect their income, safeguard their way of life and usher in a bright new future.

Unfortunately not only can't the state do any of these things better than the family, but it can't do them at all without the family. And the family has collapsed, falling apart into disassociated lonely individuals, looking for their father and mother, their children and their future, in the great soulless body of the state.

"The State is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else," Fredrick Bastiat wrote. At its most basic the state is a pyramid scheme into which everyone pays into and from which everyone expects to extract more than their fair share. At the very least they expect the state to function like a wise investment fund, taking their taxes and investing them in ways that will maximize their social return.

Unfortunately the state is more like an actual pyramid scheme whose schemers squander as much of the money as they can while pressuring the suckers to throw in more and more, promising big returns and parading around the model investors who made a fortune as their success stories.

Invest more in education, the schemers of the state urge, presenting as an example a few individual students from the diminishing percentage of college graduates who are actually able to find a full-time job based on their degree. Invest more in healthcare they cry, trotting out the elderly and the children who depend on social services, even while those same schemers are robbing those services blind. Invest in foreign aid, in the war on poverty, in infrastructure and the environment and a thousand other social funds, they cry, even as all the trillions of their former investments have gone up in smoke.

Money however is replaceable. Children are not. And nowhere has the pyramid scheme of the social state schemer proven more disastrous than in the collapse of the family. The state has usurped the family, but it depends on the family to crank out industrious little taxpayers, small men and women who will work the shops and factories, toiling night and day, paying their fines and fees dutifully while raising the next generation of taxpayers. Without the family, the pyramid scheme of the state faces a demographic collapse.

Europe has turned to the American solution, bringing in huge numbers of immigrants to fill the demographic dead zone left behind by the progressive state. And America has doubled down on that same solution. But the solution is no solution.

Importing large numbers of immigrants into a vital and booming society is a shot in the arm, but doing the same in a troubled society in decline is a shot in the head. The difference between integration and conquest is a matter of demographics. If the numbers are not on your side, then you aren't expanding your own country, you're giving it away.

Immigrants from the Third World have fared the worst. Caught between a declining West and a backward East, they have produced large and broken families that explode into violence as their children carve out their own rough tribal identities in ethnic gangs and religious terrorist groups across a lost and bewildered land. Not only have they failed to become the taxpayers of the future, upholding the oversized pensions of tomorrow with the labor of today, but they have become an even larger drain on the social services that they were meant to bail out.

In 1848, Marx and Engels published the Communist Manifesto fearsomely declaring, "A spectre is haunting Europe — the spectre of communism." At that time the birth rate in Germany was five children. Today it isn't even two. The spectre of Communism is no longer haunting Europe. It has come and gone. Under Socialism, it is the spectre of demographics that haunts Europe. It is the dead children, no longer killed in factories or protests, but in clinics and for convenience's sake, that float aimlessly through the streets of Munich, London and Paris. Europe is no longer haunted by its dead, but by those who were never born.

Socialism has left behind a terrible bill and there is no one left to pay it. The population is crashing in every Western country. The elderly are losing their generous benefits, the men and women of middle age worry for the future and the youth no longer believe in the future at all. The streets are full of angry foreign teenagers, grinning and glaring, cutting and smashing, and the veiled women shop for goat in small dirty butcher shops. The old native men and women, of the stock that once made world empires, dream of leaving it all behind for Greece or Spain where they hope for a familiar foreignness, rather than the foreign foreignness that has overwhelmed their countries and made their cities no longer their own.

The state replaced the family. It told men and women that they no longer needed to make permanent commitments to each or to their parents and children. So long as they paid their taxes, the state would bear the burden of their commitments. And so men and women gave up on each other, parents gave up on their children and children gave up on their parents, the family fell apart and now the state that took its place is also falling apart.

A building cannot be built on nothing. The tallest tower is only as strong as its foundation. A skyscraper may touch the sky, but it is its grip on the ground that truly counts. A civilization may reach for the sky and the stars, but it is sustained by the soil of the family and the roots of the basic social structures created by individuals perpetuating individuals, not the gargantuan social mechanisms of the state.

When a civilization destroys its families, then it destroys itself. A man cannot cut out his own heart and live. A society cannot destroy its own capacity for life and regeneration, and continue on blithely occupying itself with the wars on obesity, poverty, racism, cough syrup and gendered pronouns. The state may seem impressive, but it is only a scheme by which people pay officials to make life better for them. When the number of people begins to decline while the number of officials increases, then the man touches the place where his empty heart was, stumbles and falls.

American cities and states have built up a vast social infrastructure of schools and hospitals that there will not be enough children to use. From Detroit to California, the future is four teachers to an empty classroom and eight nurses to an empty hospital. The state that is too big to fail has grown bigger than its people. Like Saturn, the progressive revolution has devoured its own children leaving behind only the empty hallways and empty treasuries of the state.


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1 posted on 06/01/2014 4:07:35 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell
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To: Louis Foxwell

It is a good time to be old.


2 posted on 06/01/2014 4:09:49 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Louis Foxwell

The truth is so depressing.


3 posted on 06/01/2014 4:15:15 PM PDT by Bearshouse
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To: Louis Foxwell

Only half are paying in. In both time and money.


4 posted on 06/01/2014 4:16:23 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: daisy mae for the usa; AdvisorB; wizardoz; free-in-nyc; Vendome; Georgia Girl 2; blaveda; ...

A society cannot destroy its own capacity for life and regeneration, and continue on blithely occupying itself with the wars on obesity, poverty, racism, cough syrup and gendered pronouns.

Once again Greenfield sticks our noses in the filth created by the state.

Are we incapable of overcoming the tyranny this nation was founded to end?

Our enemy is not our Constitution. It is the government that has rejected our Constitution and established itself as our Lords.

We cannot be both slave and free. The government that took us into a terrible bloody war to overcome racial slavery has transformed into slavemaster of all the citizenry.

5 posted on 06/01/2014 4:24:08 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: Bearshouse
It's not the truth. It's a one sided negative article. Don't buy into the negativity.

The truth is that there are still plenty of families, with children, and that isn't going to end anytime soon.

/johnny

6 posted on 06/01/2014 4:24:32 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: gorush
It is a good time to be old.

No, it's a good time to be young, and to overcome this demonic nonsense, both by fighting for the family, and by forming a family. There's a light at the end of the tunnel, and it isn't an oncoming train.

My only regret is that, as I become old, I have not been able to hand a family-friendly society to my children and grandchildren, as my parents and grandparents handed to me. But my children know what to do, and their children will learn.

7 posted on 06/01/2014 4:27:59 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: chajin
I am blessed to be able to spend a lot of time with 3/5ths of my grandchildren, and am able to pass on what I can.

/johnny

8 posted on 06/01/2014 4:29:25 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Totally bump


9 posted on 06/01/2014 4:29:38 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Bookmark


10 posted on 06/01/2014 4:30:03 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: JRandomFreeper

In what direction are we headed Johnny?
Yes. There are plenty of families left but they are fewer and fewer. There will always be a remnant.
Must we be a remnant or can we conquer the tyranny of Godlessness and establish our nation as the last great hope for mankind?


11 posted on 06/01/2014 4:31:12 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: gorush

gorush:
It is not so much good to be old as it is good not to be forced to face the horrors that lie ahead.


12 posted on 06/01/2014 4:31:29 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I don’t know if I qualify as “old” or not. Is 50-something old?

But I intend to fight this crap until my last breath.


13 posted on 06/01/2014 4:31:36 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: chajin

As an oldster I have experienced the easiest existence ever enjoyed by the human animal. I see our culture declining and am sad to think of the battle that needs to be fought by today’s youth to reinstate that which I took for granted.


14 posted on 06/01/2014 4:32:08 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Louis Foxwell
The article has overstated the negative. That makes for good copy, but it isn't factual.

I see lots of this kind of crap on FR. Posters that are ready to give up, whiners bemoaning that things are changing, claims that America is lost and will never recover.

All that does nothing for building a great America where you are. All it does is demoralize people.

We get that there are problems. Any idiot can see that.

/johnny

15 posted on 06/01/2014 4:35:37 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: gorush
It is a good time to be old.

I agree. And isn't that a shame.

16 posted on 06/01/2014 4:37:13 PM PDT by upchuck (Support ABLE, the Anybody But Lindsey Effort. Yes, we are the ABLE!!)
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To: Lurker
I'm not old. I'm still in my 50s. Doesn't keep me from having a passel of grandkids. ;)

/johnny

17 posted on 06/01/2014 4:37:43 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

You must have gotten started earlier than I did. I’m looking forward to grand kids.


18 posted on 06/01/2014 4:40:48 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Louis Foxwell
And so men and women gave up on each other, parents gave up on their children and children gave up on their parents, the family fell apart and now the state that took its place is also falling apart.

From Rudyard Kipling, nearly a century ago:

On the first Feminian Sandstones we were promised the Fuller Life
(Which started by loving our neighbour and ended by loving his wife)
Till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "The Wages of Sin is Death."

19 posted on 06/01/2014 4:46:57 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring
Excellent quote from an excellent poem by Kipling. 'If' is another great on that applies.

/johnny

20 posted on 06/01/2014 4:49:07 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
"If", by Kipling, and also the "Stockdale Paradox":

This is a very important lesson. You must never confuse faith that you will prevail in the end—which you can never afford to lose—with the discipline to confront the most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever they might be."

21 posted on 06/01/2014 4:54:52 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring
I'm pretty sure everyone sees the problem. Repeating it over and over may sell articles, but it doesn't do much for fixing the problems.

And articles like this ignore the great gains we've made in things like the 2nd amendment, and closing abortion clinics. Those things have happened since FR started.

Excessive negativity is demoralizing.

/johnny

22 posted on 06/01/2014 5:01:54 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Louis Foxwell

For the future, I am both pessimistic and optimistic.

My pessimism says that a collapse is coming. Probably within my lifetime, say under 25 years. The collapse may or may not start in the US. That does not matter. Governments and economies are too interwoven for any to escape once it begins. It will not be confined to any country, nor to any continent. The collapse will result in death, both from killings and from “natural” causes, such as exposure and starvation, on a scale that will make the 20th Century look mild. The killings will be done by both government agents, until the collapse overwhelms even the remnants of government, and clashes between individuals and groups of “survivors.”

My optimism is from considering the reconstruction that will follow. People will survive, apply either of the words “some” or “many,” but people will survive. Mankind will revert to tribalism (it is only a short reversion) because that is how we know whom to trust. Families are not dead and gone, because families are the most basic of “tribes,” and form the basis of the larger tribe, as has always been the case.

We won’t collapse to the stone age, but there will be no corner grocery stocked with products from far and wide. Food will have to be produced locally, as has been the case with nearly all our existence. Learn all you can of traditional skills: axe, knife, shovel, rope craft, food growing and preservation, soap making; any manual skill will be of value. Relearn the mending of clothing.

And, we will recover to a somewhat more comfortable existence. But, we better avoid the man who says he can make it all better, if we just follow him.


23 posted on 06/01/2014 5:07:29 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats--the party of Evil. Republicans--the party of Stupid.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
The truth is that there are still plenty of families, with children, and that isn't going to end anytime soon.

I was just gonna say ... Certainly from my personal perspective, it's family, family, family, and not just my own. And then in our wider social interaction, the same thing, except everybody's a $%&*!@ liberal. Go figure!

24 posted on 06/01/2014 5:58:38 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: JRandomFreeper

I see a renewal coming, along with a religious revival.

We are called to support it.

I think the article is a warning and a call to action.


25 posted on 06/01/2014 5:59:30 PM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I feel Greenfield’s perspective on this issue is lagging the reality of a growing dissatisfaction with the Left’s abuse of traditional America.


26 posted on 06/01/2014 6:01:16 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Really? Is it the government that rejected the constitution, or is it the federalism that established the constitution speeding to its logical conclusion?

Patrick Henry was right when he noted that he smelt a rat in Philadelphia tending toward monarchy.


27 posted on 06/01/2014 6:03:39 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Relocate and Dominate: freestateproject.org)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I sure see a lot of young families with kids out there. True, many aren’t married, but what would you expect when it’s such a bad deal from an economic perspective?


28 posted on 06/01/2014 6:05:24 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Relocate and Dominate: freestateproject.org)
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To: JRandomFreeper

You’re right, Johnny. The eeyores get tiresome after awhile. While I believe that I have significantly less freedom than I did when I was younger, I do see plenty of opportunities for greatness and a better future. See tag line for one example.


29 posted on 06/01/2014 6:09:44 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Relocate and Dominate: freestateproject.org)
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To: Louis Foxwell
Importing large numbers of immigrants into a vital and booming society is a shot in the arm, but doing the same in a troubled society in decline is a shot in the head.

Paging Sen. Cruz - your campaign meme awaits you.

30 posted on 06/01/2014 6:33:36 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: JRandomFreeper

In two hundred years there won’t be enough Germans to keep the language alive... And yeah, the land mass known as “Germany” will still be there - but it’ll be a middle eastern country. Same with most of Europe.

In our country liberal ‘elites’ hate middle class traditional families... we know it - and we’re giving up too. You’re wrong on this JRandom - it’s happening slower here than in Europe - but it’s happening...


31 posted on 06/01/2014 8:31:48 PM PDT by GOPJ (ObamaCare - like buying a pig in a poke...)
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To: RobinOfKingston

Here’s a book you’ll enjoy:

“The Knowledge - How to rebuild our world from Scratch” by Lewis Dartnell...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/bookreviews/10757085/The-Knowledge-How-to-Rebuild-OurWorld-from-Scratch-by-Lewis-Dartnell-review.html

from the above link:

... and his book is full of those “oh!” moments... In the fascinating chapter on substances, for instance, Dartnell talks about the uses of wood. Not merely the obvious one – building stuff out of it – but its importance as a source of industrial chemicals. No doubt many people already know this, but to me it was extraordinary to learn that you can get tar, pitch, acetic acid, turpentine, acetone and methanol out of wood, by heating it and capturing the vapours that pour out – and that the cordite used in the First World War was made using acetone captured in this way (until Britain ran out, and started gleaning acetone from conkers).

Similarly, cement is something I rarely think about. But the invention of so-called “hydraulic” cement, the stuff that sets underwater, was one of the reasons the Romans were able to dominate the Mediterranean – because they could create huge breakwaters of concrete, simply by pouring it into the sea, where there was no natural harbour. Cement itself is based on quicklime, made from limestone, without which little of our civilisation would operate.


32 posted on 06/01/2014 8:42:51 PM PDT by GOPJ (ObamaCare - like buying a pig in a poke...)
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To: GOPJ

Thank you. $21.13 at Amazon. It’s on my wish list.


33 posted on 06/01/2014 8:50:27 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats--the party of Evil. Republicans--the party of Stupid.)
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To: GOPJ
we know it - and we’re giving up too

You may be, but not everyone is. Try getting away from television for a while, and see if that doesn't help. A steady mental diet of liberal crap can make anyone depressed.

/johnny

34 posted on 06/01/2014 8:56:27 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Thanks JRandom for the encouragement...I’m not totally giving up... did you see post #32?


35 posted on 06/01/2014 9:07:50 PM PDT by GOPJ (ObamaCare - like buying a pig in a poke...)
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To: GOPJ
No, I hadn't seen that book. I've been putting together something similar for my grandchildren. I've also been teaching them the skills. Book larnen' is good, but there is nothing like actual OJT to make it real. ;)

/johnny

36 posted on 06/01/2014 9:11:41 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: GOPJ
In our country liberal ‘elites’ hate middle class traditional families...

But the liberal elites ARE middle class traditional families. True enough though, they hate themselves. It's WHITE GUILT, the hidden throbbing power source of liberal politics.

37 posted on 06/01/2014 9:56:09 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Louis Foxwell

Bumping an excellent exposition of our parlous state.


38 posted on 06/02/2014 5:51:29 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: Paladin2

“Only half are paying in. In both time and money.”

We pretend the system can be made to work and the system pretends to take care of us.


39 posted on 06/02/2014 6:12:01 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

“The government that took us into a terrible bloody war to overcome racial slavery has transformed into slavemaster of all the citizenry.”

Regretfully, I must point out the sad reality that the public willingly went to the government feeding troughs. We have allowed ourselves and our children to become the Gimme Pig and the GibsMeDat generation.

Pigs always are slaughtered, and those with their snouts in the trough are getting nervous because the trough is going empty and the smell of blood is in the air.


40 posted on 06/02/2014 6:16:51 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Remember the 5% Rule - 5% of a population is the floor of significance. Blacks are 12% of America, and 40% of them have IQ scores of 82 or lower. Blacks are 4.8% of America with sub-normal IQ and in a cognitively demanding society they will have to be supported. The more so because of what the Pooblik Skrewl Collective did to them.

Mexicans also contribute some 4% to the “perpetually bewildered” population, except that now those folks are turning violent - the “Urban Ferals”.

As they like to say on National Palisimian Radio, “Lets do the numbers”. 4.8% plus approximately 5% equals nearly 10% which is double the significant level minimum.

Now add in nearly 1% for the Muslims and one has all the elements of societal destruction.

If America is to survive, acceptance of the realities of demographics and that which is antithetical to, and irreconcilable with the constitution is essential.

That which is antithetical to, and irreconcilable with America is treason. We have allowed Big Government to breed generations of the deliberately un-acculturated in the welfare hives. We allowed importation those who can never become part of America because their culture is treason by definition, the Koran and the behavior of Koranimals.

With over 10% being either useless, untrainable and hostile, and a few million Muslims who will surely do what they have done for the last 1,400 years(go ‘full jihaddi’), may I inquire as to why you feel the present nuclear families can replace the historic multi-generational families and deal with the Muslims?


41 posted on 06/02/2014 6:39:37 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.
Importing large numbers of immigrants into a vital and booming society is a shot in the arm, but doing the same in a troubled society in decline is a shot in the head.

Paging Sen. Cruz - your campaign meme awaits you.

 

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Isn't that an ironic statement? Considering Ted Cruz is a second generation imported immigrant.

 

42 posted on 06/02/2014 6:45:24 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: GladesGuru
What a load of cod-swallop. First, the multi-generational family isn't gone. For another, what happens in the feral enclaves (cities) has very little to do with the future of America.

Cities don't produce America's food, power, or warriors, fly-over country is where all that happens.

You can keep your negativity. I have no use for it.

I'm seeing great gains in the 2nd Amendment, and seeing abortion clinics closing all over the nation. Texas went from being LBJ's liberal bastion to a place where socialists can't win a statewide race.

This is far from over.

/johnny

43 posted on 06/02/2014 6:46:19 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.
Importing large numbers of immigrants into a vital and booming society is a shot in the arm, but doing the same in a troubled society in decline is a shot in the head.

Paging Sen. Cruz - your campaign meme awaits you.

Any candidate who campaigns on that theme will get my very serious consideration.

44 posted on 06/02/2014 6:49:35 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Peace, FRiend! We are on the same side.

We are dependent on a technological society which is very vulnerable to violent attack from within. Consider just power transmission and power distribution. Remember the terrorist attack on the power substation transformers in California? All those terrorists did was take an AK style rifle chambered for 7.62X39 and shoot holes in the cooling surfaces of the transformer heat exchangers.

In essence, I am calling for the preemptive war which has been an accepted response to known threats since well before Boethius.

Time to play Cowboys and Muslims, Homies, “Bronze Peoples”, ad nauseam.

They give us no choice.


45 posted on 06/02/2014 7:15:31 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Isn't that an ironic statement?

LOL at the use of 'ironic' in that statement.

Speaking of irony, demeaning Cruz with "Ted Cruz is a second generation imported immigrant" and having a tagline that says "NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!" and then posting lib talking points.

Try taking responsibility FIRST, OK?

46 posted on 06/02/2014 7:21:19 AM PDT by Syncro (Benghazi-LIES/CoverupIRS-LIES/CoverupDOJ-NO Justice--Etc Marxist Treason IMPEACH!)
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To: Syncro

I did not demean Senator Cruz. Are you assuming that being a second generation imported immigrant is demeaning?

Apparently you dislike my senator. Whatever. I hope he runs for (and is elected) president.


47 posted on 06/02/2014 7:42:26 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
From reading this thread and the context, I stand by my statement. Your comment was obvious as I described it, although quite subtle.

I majored in subtleties at the Institute of Phenomonology and earned a Doctorate in that field.

If you had watched Free Republic over the years you would realize I was out in the field with Ted Cruz, as was Sarah Palin and 10's of thousands of other conservatives/teapartiers, and the Tea Party org I worked with had him speak at several of our Tea Party rallies.

We worked hard to get him elected, and now you claim him as your own and describe him as a " Ted Cruz...a second generation imported immigrant" which only feeds the trolls and liberals.

He wasn't "imported," his parents brought him here.

Your statement "Apparently you dislike my senator" was a completely poor attempt at throwing up a straw man, but is excused as you spoke out of ignorance of my involvement in getting him elected.

48 posted on 06/02/2014 8:01:18 AM PDT by Syncro (Benghazi-LIES/CoverupIRS-LIES/CoverupDOJ-NO Justice--Etc Marxist Treason IMPEACH!)
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To: GladesGuru
We have allowed Big Government to breed generations of the deliberately un-acculturated in the welfare hives. We allowed importation those who can never become part of America because their culture is treason by definition

I blame Ted Kennedy.

49 posted on 06/02/2014 8:41:44 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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