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Noted scientist fears aliens ignored Earth because were too stupid
Hot Air ^ | June 1, 2014 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 06/01/2014 10:08:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

What do you get when you put one of the smartest people in the world – astrophysicist Neil DeGrasse Tyson – in the same room with MSNBC talker Chris Hayes? Answer: You get a lot of science interview questions, not all of which will be gems. But to their credit, they did manage to cover the one burning issue which awaits resolution – where are the aliens, and why haven’t they contacted us?

Tyson may not know for sure, but he has a theory.

Astrophysicist and Cosmos host Neil DeGrasse Tyson told MSNBC host Chris Hayes that while it’s audacious enough for human beings to say they’re capable of defining intelligence, he would still like to know if there’s other intelligent beings in the universe.

“My great fear is that we’ve in fact been visited by intelligent aliens,” DeGrasse Tyson said to Hayes. “But they chose not to make contact, on the conclusion that there’s no sign of intelligent life on Earth. How’s that for measures of intelligence?”

One reason it’s presumptuous for humans to act like they’re the arbiters of intelligence, DeGrasse Tyson said, is the possibility that planets much older than ours are already sending us messages in a format that, while basic to them, is incomprehensible by our current standards.

The idea that the first hint an extraterrestrial species will have of us is old I Love Lucy reruns is not a new one. But would a space-faring race really assume we are all that stupid? A quick inspection would show that we have manned and unmanned artificial satellites orbiting the planet. A modest visual survey would show cities, roads, and all manner of intelligent design. It just seems unlikely to me that aliens would ignore anyone who had not yet mastered the warp drive.

I’ll suggest two other possibilities and you are free to add in your own.

First, assuming there are other intelligent species alive at this time in this galaxy, I’m guessing there aren’t going to be that many of them. Given the number of stars in the Milky Way it would have to take many times the span of years that we have had an advanced civilization to search them all. So they may be out there and looking, but they just haven’t found us yet.

The second possibility I am sure is far more likely. At roughly the same time they invented their own warp drive, they also invented politics. In the ensuing squabbles, the budget for the warp drive was diverted, and they never got off the ground.


TOPICS: Science; TV/Movies; UFO's
KEYWORDS: aliens; ancientaliens; calliingartbell; globalwarminghoax; heshouldtalk; neildegrassetyson; primedirective; space; toserveman; warpdrive; zeframcochrane
One of the smartest people in the world? Hahahaha!
1 posted on 06/01/2014 10:08:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They clearly picked up the trace of Ostupido in the WH then.


2 posted on 06/01/2014 10:09:32 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Another idiot with a tv show. At least he knows his audience.....


3 posted on 06/01/2014 10:11:01 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Soon, "the grateful dead" will be more than just the name of a crap band...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The aliens must have been observing libtards. That’d explain it.


4 posted on 06/01/2014 10:12:59 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: clintonh8r
Would you contact this species?


5 posted on 06/01/2014 10:14:50 PM PDT by DannyTN
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6 posted on 06/01/2014 10:15:06 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He can’t believe in God but he can believe in crap like that?


7 posted on 06/01/2014 10:15:10 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We’ve bubbled to the top, no question. We have a clear understanding of our galactic and extra-galactic environment. As far as “contact” goes, it’s only our own galaxy that’s in play, but even there, the barriers of space and time are formidable. My opinion is that they are more than formidable, they are prohibitive, which makes the whole question moot. Maybe I’m wrong.


8 posted on 06/01/2014 10:20:19 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This guy’s cracked.


9 posted on 06/01/2014 10:22:01 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: BuckeyeTexan
The aliens must have been observing libtards. That’d explain it.


Look at the bright side, it's a better explanation than the alternative explanation - that they are still waiting on finishing the cookbook

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx4oWVw0lI4

10 posted on 06/01/2014 10:25:58 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Science!
11 posted on 06/01/2014 10:29:38 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The idea that the first hint an extraterrestrial species will have of us is old I Love Lucy reruns

That's historical documents.

12 posted on 06/01/2014 10:32:37 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would hazard a guess that anyone that gets a doctorate in a science is a smart fellow.

But I would reserve an appellation like “One of the smartest guys in the world” for those of demonstrated superior abilities.. i.e., someone like Steven Hawking.


13 posted on 06/01/2014 10:32:44 PM PDT by Bobalu (What cannot be programmed cannot be physics)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Our tv and radio emissions scatter, there would be not enough left to get any kind of recognizable signal by the time it gets to another star


14 posted on 06/01/2014 10:35:46 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: rdcbn

We don’t taste good.


15 posted on 06/01/2014 10:40:06 PM PDT by Dallas59 ("Remember me as you pass by, As you are now, so once was I, As I am now, so you will be")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not a fan of Tyson, but I’m pretty sure he was joking when he said that.


16 posted on 06/01/2014 10:43:35 PM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

~~~Noted scientist fears aliens ignored Earth because we’re too stupid~~~

Outer-space aliens were watching the 2008 and 2012 American elections?


17 posted on 06/01/2014 10:58:18 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: DannyTN

18 posted on 06/01/2014 11:02:52 PM PDT by Right Brother
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To: Corporate Democrat
I think he was being serious.

Like a lot of scientists he believes the only true knowledge is scientific knowledge. He has absolutely no use for theological, philosophical, or even conceptual knowledge unless it is an aid to scientific knowledge.

If there are leaps and bounds yet to be made in our understanding of the universe (e.g. the true nature of dark matter and dark energy, more about string theory, what strings are composed of, etc.) then our scientific knowledge may very well be a pittance compared to an alien civilization that has been around for thousands, or maybe millions, more years than ours.

But humans should get more credit than lots of scientists will allow for our theological, philosophical, and conceptual knowledge. In this regard we may not be far behind the most advanced alien species.

Oh and BTW, Tyson's an idiot.

19 posted on 06/01/2014 11:13:08 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

BULL! The saw what happened to Klaatu, back in 1951, and have been shaking in their tentacle covers ever since.


20 posted on 06/01/2014 11:22:13 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have always been of the opinion that if there are other intelligent races out there, they are probably not going to advertise. The universe might not be the friendly place we somehow tend to assume it is. Other intelligent races might consider discretion to be a wiser policy.


21 posted on 06/01/2014 11:43:52 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: Salamander
If you read the title you know what's coming ping

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22 posted on 06/01/2014 11:59:46 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obviously the aliens’ “first contact” was with the Republican leadership.


23 posted on 06/02/2014 12:03:58 AM PDT by LaybackLenny (Sarah Palin - Last Man Standing (Ironic, ain't it?))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

LOL why is it that supposed Aliens are thought to be so much smarter than us - and so peaceful - and so against our wars - is it because our ideas of any possible Alien species all comes from Star Trek or Hollywood. For all we know any life out there could still be dragging itself out of it’s own primordial soup. Or they have tasted human and we don’t really do it for them - we give them gas!!! One of the Smartest Guys in the World? Is that what he wrote on his pamphlets?


24 posted on 06/02/2014 12:04:56 AM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: LaybackLenny

“Why is their leader orange? I thought Neptunians were orange, Groldvakk? And why is he crying?”


25 posted on 06/02/2014 12:06:14 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What about the idea that life as we know it is so unique that we are it, and it is our commission to “Go forth and multiply” in the galaxy if not the universe.


26 posted on 06/02/2014 12:13:17 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If they are sweet and come in the form of Jeff Bridges, I hope they change their minds. :)

John Carpenter's Starman

27 posted on 06/02/2014 12:19:55 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
DeGrasse Tyson said to Hayes. “But they chose not to make contact, on the conclusion that there’s no sign of intelligent life on Earth. How’s that for measures of intelligence?”

Aliens probably concluded this after watching Tycon's Cosmos global warming episode.

28 posted on 06/02/2014 12:26:15 AM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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>> One reason it’s presumptuous for humans to act like they’re the arbiters of intelligence, DeGrasse Tyson said

A rather presumptuous statement.


29 posted on 06/02/2014 12:28:28 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: shibumi
Who IS that guy? I see his picture around, but I have no idea what the story might be.
30 posted on 06/02/2014 12:47:37 AM PDT by Psiman (PS I am not a crockpot)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Now THAT'S funny.
31 posted on 06/02/2014 12:48:38 AM PDT by Psiman (PS I am not a crockpot)
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To: shibumi

I truly would not know what to do without you.

<3

:)


32 posted on 06/02/2014 12:53:41 AM PDT by Salamander (It's a cult and they worship blue oysters!)
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To: shibumi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bzz6zBqjnO0


33 posted on 06/02/2014 12:57:22 AM PDT by Salamander (It's a cult and they worship blue oysters!)
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To: Psiman
His name is Giorgio Tsoukalos.

He is one of the hosts of the History Channel's series on Ancient Aliens.

We have not yet decided if it's documentary, fantasy, satire, self-parody or some other form of high comedy.

But "just *everyone*" wants Giorgio's hair!

Rumor has it he was a consultant on the sci-fi show "Babylon 5" -


34 posted on 06/02/2014 12:59:20 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I saw an earlier documentary about the universe hosted by this guy. He said the same thing. These celebrity astrophysics are definitely in the misanthrope category. I’m not entirely sure of his meaning. What I gathered in to context of the technology required to travel faster than light (thus proving the physicists wrong) is that we humans are not worth the time to visit. Kind of like Star Trek not making contact with pre warp civilizations.


35 posted on 06/02/2014 1:02:27 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: shibumi

36 posted on 06/02/2014 1:02:41 AM PDT by Salamander (It's a cult and they worship blue oysters!)
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To: Salamander

I hit the YouTube link and the first thing that popped up was an ad for hair transplant surgery.


37 posted on 06/02/2014 1:02:45 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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I can state with certain knowledge that we are not ignoring you, we are selecting which of you can serve, and who otherwise should die.

Perhaps I have said too much.


38 posted on 06/02/2014 1:06:30 AM PDT by Peter ODonnell (It wasn't this cold before global warming)
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To: shibumi

Hairvolution.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDKvWiToj8Y


39 posted on 06/02/2014 1:10:56 AM PDT by Salamander (It's a cult and they worship blue oysters!)
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To: shibumi; Psiman

It is *the* best show on History Channel.

I adore Girgio even though he’s toys in the attic/batsh*t in the belfry/cracker factory crazy.

I have never seen a show whereupon so many wildly disparate yet tortuously unified mad hatter assertions are made with absolutely straight faces.

It is high entertainment of the most absurd sort.

I never miss an episode.

:)


40 posted on 06/02/2014 1:21:43 AM PDT by Salamander (It's a cult and they worship blue oysters!)
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To: Peter ODonnell

this is just one possible answer to the “Fermi paradox”

there are many. many others

my favorite is the thought that a given civilization must develop three things before a trip to another star becomes the least bit inviting, money, banks and compound interest

Wikipedia has a good article on the paradox

(my apologies to the one who came up with this idea years ago for not crediting him/her—the name has long since vanished down the memory hole and searching yields no answer)


41 posted on 06/02/2014 1:27:51 AM PDT by tanstaafl44 (GDTA)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He must be the exemplar, possibly a battalion leader...


42 posted on 06/02/2014 1:29:56 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obviously, there aren’t that many stupid people or MSNBC’s ratings would. be higher.


43 posted on 06/02/2014 1:30:51 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They met who we elected as leaders and wrote off this planet as a loss.

Demolition is scheduled for our year 13420


44 posted on 06/02/2014 4:32:32 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s possible that these aliens happened to tune into a radio station playing rap and that concluded the matter for them.


45 posted on 06/02/2014 4:40:37 AM PDT by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: Dallas59

We don’t taste good.


You say that like it’s a bad thing


46 posted on 06/02/2014 5:27:44 AM PDT by rdcbn
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