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They went there: Seattle just enacted a $15/hour minimum wage
Hot Air / The Associated Press ^ | June 2, 2014 | Erika Johnsen

Posted on 06/03/2014 2:43:58 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Last week, Michigan became the latest of a handful of states to officially raise its minimum wage this year, with a gradual four-year phase-in that will take its floor from $7.40 up to $9.25 an hour — but over in the city of Seattle, things just got real. Say hello to what will soon become the highest minimum wage in the nation, via the AP:

The issue has dominated politics in the liberal municipality for months. Mayor Ed Murray, who was elected last year, had promised in his campaign to raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour. A newly elected socialist City Council member had pushed the idea as well.

“This legislation sends a message heard around the world: Seattle wants to stop the race to the bottom in wages and that we deplore the growth in income inequality and the widening gap between the rich and the poor,” Councilmember Tom Rasmussen said...

(Excerpt) Read more at hotair.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Local News
KEYWORDS: economy; minimumwage; seattle; washington

1 posted on 06/03/2014 2:43:58 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The USSR “got real” too. But look where it ended up.


2 posted on 06/03/2014 2:45:45 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Seattle, say hello to Detroit.


3 posted on 06/03/2014 2:52:16 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, just look at it as a lab experiment and see what happens.


4 posted on 06/03/2014 2:52:23 AM PDT by Hugin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hamburger, fry, and a coke?....... That will be $12.32 sir.


5 posted on 06/03/2014 2:53:35 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m glad this is confined at the city level. The people of Seattle are punishing themselves. Too bad they are a bunch of stupid liberals and won’t learn from their pain. I bet they will asking for another increase in the not too distant future.


6 posted on 06/03/2014 3:04:37 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (We need to fundamentally transform RATs lives for their lies.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This will be very interesting to watch from a distance. I wonder how many of the Union Contracts both Public and Private have a clause relating their wages to the Minimum Wage?

If so they good people of Seattle are about to receive a lesson in how Taxes must rise, (Property, Sales, and whatevers) to pay for the increases in wages, etc.


7 posted on 06/03/2014 3:05:37 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“ ....... we deplore the growth in income inequality and the widening gap between the rich and the poor,”


Why not just pay everyone as much as Bill Gates and Warren Buffett? That will close the gap for everyone.

Libs just don’t get it.


8 posted on 06/03/2014 3:06:52 AM PDT by boycott
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How long will it be before some lib starts moaning about the loss of minimum wage jobs? How could this happen?


9 posted on 06/03/2014 3:12:06 AM PDT by Artie (We are surrounded by MORONS)
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To: ConservativeInPA

I’m surprised they beat Portland, Berkeley, San Francisco and Austin to the punch.


10 posted on 06/03/2014 3:14:53 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Any guesses on how long it will take for businesses to start their move out of Seattle to a more business-friendly city or state? Mayor Murray and city council, I hope you are prepared for the catastrophe that is about to overcome you once great city.


11 posted on 06/03/2014 3:21:27 AM PDT by ImNotLying (The Right To Bear Arms: Making good people helpless won't make bad people harmless!)
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To: Hugin

“Well, just look at it as a lab experiment and see what happens.”

I encourage all who are unemployed, lack any marketable skills, and have room temp IQ’s to relocate to Seattle. Those who don’t wish to work should relocate to Detroit where there’s lots of juicy benefits and free housing available. There! Now that the deck has been cleared everyone else can get back to work....


12 posted on 06/03/2014 3:22:33 AM PDT by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If you do the quick math in your head... After about a year of this, there’s going to be a whole lot less people doing a whole more. Most of the people who had jobs paying less than the new minimum wage, won’t have jobs. Most of the people who made more than the minimum wage, will have their pay cut and workloads increased.


13 posted on 06/03/2014 3:38:14 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

the rich is gonna pay more for their lattes and the poor is gonna live large and raise families on $15 an hour

everyone head for Seattle!


14 posted on 06/03/2014 3:45:07 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Dixie Yooper

“If you do the quick math in your head... After about a year of this, there’s going to be a whole lot less people doing a whole more.”

They just increased the cost of an unskilled full-time employee to $36-$40,000, before benefits. I see LOTS of automation in their future.


15 posted on 06/03/2014 3:50:39 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Dixie Yooper

What’s funny is that here in Texas the minimum wage is the federally-mandated $7.25 an hour, yet hardly anyone is forced to work for that because our economy is humming along like a Swiss watch. The market is taking care of it.


16 posted on 06/03/2014 3:53:56 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: silverleaf

“Tax the rich, feed the poor
Till there are no rich no more.....”

—Ten Years After


17 posted on 06/03/2014 3:54:50 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: All

There will also probably be a huge influx of unskilled hipsters.
It gone be ugly.


18 posted on 06/03/2014 4:20:54 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To win the country back, we need to be as mean as the libs say we are.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If there’s any rational argument against $50/hr then it applies to $15/hr. if there is no such argument then make it $1,500/hr.


19 posted on 06/03/2014 4:35:17 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: catfish1957

around here that order costs about 7.35 with tax...

I’d bet it’ll be 15.50 if the min wage here went up to 15 hour..


20 posted on 06/03/2014 4:37:42 AM PDT by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I was actually going to take and excursion to Seattle this summer as part of a work-vacation, but this minimum wage increase has just put my costs out of reach. I guess I will have to find some other place to visit. Does anyone have any suggestions near Portland?


21 posted on 06/03/2014 4:38:22 AM PDT by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Watch for a slew of businesses to open right on the outskirts of Seattle.


22 posted on 06/03/2014 4:40:59 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (Some people say that experts agree!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Grew up in a "dry" county in South Georgia. If you wanted to buy booze, you had to drive to the county line to buy it. Then you had a choice of six liquor stores and three bars. All in the middle of nowhere!

Sounds like it will be like that in Seattle for anyone who wants to buy a Happy Meal or a bucket of chicken.

23 posted on 06/03/2014 4:50:35 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A vacation to Seattle just doubled in price. I guess only the rich and famous will be able to visit.


24 posted on 06/03/2014 5:20:13 AM PDT by randita
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t know the layout of Seattle, but I would expect a very large growth spurt of businesses in the ‘burbs where the minimum wage is less than $15/hr. If there are suburban cities built right to the border with Seattle, I expect the building of dozens of fast food restaurants on roads bordering Seattle. This does not bode well for Seattle’s future, a down town core with high rise office buildings and nothing else, a hollowed out core like Detroit...


25 posted on 06/03/2014 5:41:32 AM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In five years, these idiots will be whining because $15 isn’t a livable wage and demanding $30, $40 and $50/hr and that $347 they managed to save will be worth a buck fifty. Just wait until their retired fixed income parents have to move back in with them because their pensions won’t cut it anymore.


26 posted on 06/03/2014 5:41:50 AM PDT by bgill
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Alberta is the same way. You may notice the same thing in TX, depending on US laws, but in Calgary, when you go to almost any Tim Horton’s (think ‘Dunkin’ Donuts’ or ‘Second Cup’), you will hardly find a Caucasian working there. Instead, there are many Indians and Orientals, all on special work visas, allowing them to be paid less than the going rate in Alberta. At one point, during the early part of the boom, Tim Horton’s was offering $14/hr and could not get employees, so they pushed Ottawa to allow immigrants under special visas.

In my neighbourhood, there is a van bearing the logo ‘CanMex Employment Services’. The house is apparently where a number of Mexican immigrants live and they perform the jobs Canadians won’t do. And Alberta still pays over $3 billion annually in ‘equalization payments’ to Quebec, so they can continue with their their profligate socialist governments.


27 posted on 06/03/2014 5:52:28 AM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Nope - the next step is to disallow employers from firing/not hiring.


28 posted on 06/03/2014 5:58:18 AM PDT by MortMan (Avoid temporary variables and strange women.)
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To: MortMan

wait until they close all the Starbucks then all hell will break loose


29 posted on 06/03/2014 6:01:39 AM PDT by jneesy (rough seas make skillful sailors)
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To: jneesy

Without Starbucks, Seattle would sleep 22.75 hours per day, probably...


30 posted on 06/03/2014 6:08:15 AM PDT by MortMan (Avoid temporary variables and strange women.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Does Seattle have suburbs?


31 posted on 06/03/2014 6:09:54 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Haha...hope the libs I know there get their lesson in economics NOW.


32 posted on 06/03/2014 6:25:37 AM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

They could not get locals at $14 an hour? What gives? Do all young people have wealthy families or something in Calgary? Incidentally, the wife and I spent three or four days in the Calgary area three years ago. In fact, across the street from our hotel was a Tim Horton’s. Can’t remember who was working inside.


33 posted on 06/03/2014 7:27:42 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: driftless2
You ask "What gives?"

OIL BOOM

Spoiled Kids


34 posted on 06/03/2014 9:01:09 AM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: driftless2

About five years ago, a local News outlet interviewed two teenagers, perhaps 16 or 17 years old, in an upper middle class neighbourhood in Calgary. They both said that if the couldn’t get jobs at $20/hr, they’d just stay at home and play video games. If they were my kids, they would have gotten their butts paddled!

The economy has changed as we now are approaching 1.2 million people in Calgary, and the ‘boom’ is not as big as it was, but the economy is still the best in the country. Even now, many high school kids go straight to the oil patch, some not even completing high school. An 18 year old can make $25/hour doing construction in Fort McMoney, live in a camp and come to Calgary or Edmonton and blow his earnings. That is attractive to some. If they pursue a trade, the can make even more, especially in the North.


35 posted on 06/03/2014 9:11:00 AM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: tbw2
Does Seattle have suburbs?

If you don't bother with name changes, very much so. To the extent of tens of miles outside the city limits, in every direction but west it's continuous city.

Grew up there.

36 posted on 06/03/2014 10:46:38 AM PDT by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How many of those cities have open socialists on their city councils? They’ve only got “Democrats”.


37 posted on 06/03/2014 11:37:46 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: jimt

With a 15 dollar per hour minimum wage, it is easy to say the jobs will move to the suburbs, but I didn’t know if Seattle had any.


38 posted on 06/03/2014 12:23:01 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: MortMan
Without Starbucks, Seattle would sleep 22.75 hours per day, probably...

I stayed in downtown Seattle a few years ago at the Mayflower Hotel. I had to walk 6 blocks to get a cup of coffee at 6:00 am. The fact that it was 9:00 am on the east coast and this was my first morning on the west coast didn't help my attitude at the time...

39 posted on 06/03/2014 2:42:16 PM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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