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CURL: Is Obama really that stupid?
The Washington Times ^ | June 4, 2014 | Joseph Curl

Posted on 06/05/2014 9:45:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

There’s something very odd going on these days at the White House.

How else to explain the Bowe Bergdahl debacle? Team Obama, which games every move it makes to gauge the political leverage gained or lost, must have known the true story about the Army sergeant who his former comrades say was disgruntled with the war and simply walked away.

If the charge of desertion is true, why trade five top-level Taliban terrorists for him? Why would the White House expose itself to such easy criticism? Why would President Obama so clearly violate the law that requires him to notify Congress 30 days before any release of prisoners from Guantanamo Bay?

And why on earth would the president send National Security Adviser Susan Rice, she of the multiple lies on the Benghazi attack that left four Americans dead, to the Sunday talk shows to proclaim that Sgt. Bergdahl had “served the United States with honor and distinction”?

There can be only one answer: Mr. Obama saw more upside than down with the hostage-for-terrorists trade. Aside from changing the subject from the president’s latest scandal — the horrendous treatment of veterans at the nation’s VA hospitals — Mr. Obama must have concluded that the controversial move would, in the end, deliver him political leverage against Republicans, which he sorely needs going into what is expected to be a bloodbath for Democrats on Election Day 2014.

Of course, part of the calculation was that the U.S. media would once again defend Mr. Obama. And while some news outlets have run stories about the puzzling details behind Sgt. Bergdahl’s “capture,” others are adhering to the White House talking points....

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TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: bergdahl; obama
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1 posted on 06/05/2014 9:45:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes. Yes he is.


2 posted on 06/05/2014 9:47:58 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He did it when Rush was on vacation.


3 posted on 06/05/2014 9:50:19 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Shut down GITMO. He’s a programmed ideologue.


4 posted on 06/05/2014 9:52:18 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Soon, the entire mess will be plunged into a “blue ribbon investigation,” allowing administration officials to refuse comment.

And after that, it will be "old news".

5 posted on 06/05/2014 9:52:26 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Is Obama Valerie Jarrett really that stupid?

Yes.

6 posted on 06/05/2014 9:52:47 PM PDT by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama is going rogue and he doesn’t care what people think or who he hurts...including Democrats.


7 posted on 06/05/2014 9:52:49 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
With the Susan Rice issue; Obama is laughing at America. He is amused by how much congress and the voters will take without any push back.

With the larger point of the "Taliban Trade", the appearance of stupidity is probably a smoke screen to keep the media busy while something sinister is going on behind the smoke screen.

8 posted on 06/05/2014 9:53:14 PM PDT by Baynative (How much longer will the media be able to prop up this administration?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes, he certainly is. His incredible stupidity does not obviate his tremendous mendacity though.


9 posted on 06/05/2014 9:56:36 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think recent history has shown that Obama is NOT presidential material.


10 posted on 06/05/2014 9:59:24 PM PDT by Bullish (You ever notice that liberalism really just amounts to anti-morality?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Personally, I think Obama is just trying to see what he can get away with, and despite every unconstitutional action he has taken, he still cannot get congress to impeach him.

He is trying to get a clean exit before the balloon goes up, and he is left handing the bag to prove he cannot lead in a time of crisis.

He knows LIKE Bill Clinton, that even impeachment will not keep the press from singing his praises as the best president in American history.

He wants out NOW!... he thought he was gonna get a clean out in 2012, but it didn’t happen.

He can’t quit... he’s too proud to quit. He wants a political war with which to scorch the earth with as he leaves... and an indefinite excuse for the mess he has left us with.


11 posted on 06/05/2014 10:00:08 PM PDT by Safrguns (PM me if you like to play Minecraft!)
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To: Jeff Chandler

He is either monumentally stupid or his handlers have just given him his burn notice....


12 posted on 06/05/2014 10:00:10 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

With the media covering his ass regardless of what he does, with GOPe “leaders” afraid of their own shadows, with a good 60 percent of the people either backing him or not caring, why should he worry about anything.

This will be old news in a week - on to his next item on the agenda.

And this little scandal did a great job of covering up the even greater EPA atrocity of essentially shutting down coal generated electricity, and the VA debacle. Maybe he’s not all that dumb?


13 posted on 06/05/2014 10:00:28 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes


14 posted on 06/05/2014 10:00:39 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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To: Baynative

>> He is amused by how much congress and the voters will take without any push back.

Boehner is so “hell bent” for amnesty that he ridiculed his own party, “Ohhh don’t make me. Ohhh that’s too hard”.

Well Johnny, duty calls. Obama has returned to the enemy who has not surrendered 5 of their top leaders. Directly aiding the enemy.

Impeach Obama. It’s your duty. What’s the matter John? “Ohhh don’t make me. Ohhh that’s too hard”.

Put down your drink and get off your asz. Impeach Obama or be charged with misprision of treason, got it Boehner?


15 posted on 06/05/2014 10:01:05 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What do you mean ‘really’. The man is a solid gold MORON!


16 posted on 06/05/2014 10:01:20 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The only other news out the day of Bergdahl’s trade was that the EPA had announced rules to set the amount the USA energy sector would be required to reduce “carbon emissions” by 30% over the next 15 years - a cornerstone of Obama’s attempts to “heal the planet and lower the seas.”

It will basically shut down the coal sector and raise electricity rates drastically.

Maybe Obama and his team thought that a few weeks of bad press over Bergdahl was worth it to sneak this whopper past the American public.


17 posted on 06/05/2014 10:01:26 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If he is so stupid, why has he had total, unconditional victory for 5 years?


18 posted on 06/05/2014 10:02:48 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sadly, Curl is right. This is playing out just as all other White Hut scandals have. Soon it will be lost in a murky combination of finger pointing, blue ribbon panels and the November elections dominating the news cycle. The veterans will still be getting screwed, Berghdal will be portrayed as a misunderstood hero and Harry Reid will be croaking on about the Koch brothers. Before you know it, Dude, it will be two years ago. What a pathetic place we have become.....


19 posted on 06/05/2014 10:03:48 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Soon, "the grateful dead" will be more than just the name of a crap band...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Congress makes me sick to my stomach. They're supposed to be representing us, supposed to be protecting us, and they're not even on the same grid. We don't want terrorists running back home to grab a suitcase nuke for NY or pouring chemicals in our drinking water to kill our families. Congress is supposed to protect us from that.

Maybe none of them noticed Obama smile when the the traitor's father gave the most famous war cry of Islam.

I noticed.

20 posted on 06/05/2014 10:04:32 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: laplata
Obama is going rogue and he doesn’t care what people think or who he hurts...including Democrats.

He told us he was going to start acting without Congress more this year, and he is. Expect more surprises.

21 posted on 06/05/2014 10:05:18 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: VRWC For Truth

I’m wondering if this was merely a play to get the worst actors out of gitmo because he knew the impending backlash from trying to let these guys out when they close it down. Bowe was just cover, an excuse, basically. Wrap the hardest release in patriotism and duty eliminating Congressional Republicans biggest point against closure. These 5 represented the biggest hurdle and now they are out.


22 posted on 06/05/2014 10:06:02 PM PDT by drunknsage
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To: Cementjungle

Obama is putting the dems between a barack and a hard place. It will be fun to watch them once they catch on.


23 posted on 06/05/2014 10:07:04 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
OMG!

I cannot believe I am about to defend 0bama, but here goes:

We are kidding ourselves if we believe he is doing this out of stupidity.

This is a planned action, the real question is: Who are the planners?

It is not 0bama and that is very frightening.

24 posted on 06/05/2014 10:11:56 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (I never thought anyone could make Jimmy Carter look good in comparisons)
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To: nickcarraway

Never confuse cunning with wisdom or intelligence. If you don’t know the difference between right and wrong, you’re stupid. The reason he “wins” every time is because the press and the so-called opposition are just as evil and stupid. They don’t know the difference between right and wrong either.


25 posted on 06/05/2014 10:13:36 PM PDT by huckfillary
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To: nickcarraway
"If he is so stupid, why has he had total, unconditional victory for 5 years?"

Never underestimate the ability of the Stupid Party to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. The Obammunist didn't so much "win" two elections as the Republicans lost them...oh yeah, throw in a few million fraudulent votes and bam-o! There you are.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

26 posted on 06/05/2014 10:19:22 PM PDT by wku man (Veterans, it's up to us to save the Republic...let's roll.)
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To: Michael.SF.

Obama is a very mentally ill, demented person. Even a broken clock is right twice a day, but Obama has done nothing right in six years. Not one thing. His every action is purposefully and intentionally immoral and designed to destroy our country.

I repeat-—he is doing this out of stupidity. A person who does not know the difference between right and wrong, who has no moral compass, is stupid. There’s no such thing as an “evil genius.” It’s a contradiction in terms. If you’re evil, you are definitely not a genius. A genius-—first and foremost—knows the difference between right and wrong.


27 posted on 06/05/2014 10:23:21 PM PDT by huckfillary
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To: Michael.SF.

Everything that Clown Prince does intentional. He is a hate crime.


28 posted on 06/05/2014 10:25:20 PM PDT by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

obama’s anti-American motives are rooted in evil and malice, not stupidity. He hates what all FReepers love: a traditional, Christian America, and he consistently acts to destroy it. (Remember his spiritual leader, Rev. Wright: “God Damn America!”) People watch him commit acts that are contrary to the interests of the country he leads, are confused by this, and conclude he must be stupid or crazy. WRONG! He is acting deliberately.


29 posted on 06/05/2014 10:30:28 PM PDT by matt1234 (Everything I write is a lie.)
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To: aquila48

“And this little scandal did a great job of covering up the even greater EPA atrocity of essentially shutting down coal generated electricity, and the VA debacle. Maybe he’s not all that dumb?”

It did that, didn’t it. I like your idea.


30 posted on 06/05/2014 10:37:22 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Was Karl Marx stupid? He initiated the slow demise of Russian economy to the point of bankruptcy.

Obummer is influenced by the dreams of his father. His father was a Kenyan communist who lived many years under British colonial rule. That is why Obummer hates United States to be a super power and is doing his best to bring the country down to a level where it has no power or influence in the world.


31 posted on 06/05/2014 10:48:03 PM PDT by entropy12 (Harry Reid has killed more good bills passed by House than our Soldiers lost looking for Bergdahl)
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To: South40

Is Obama Valerie Jarrett really that stupid?

No He is on a mission to destroy America as we know it.. He has a couple more years before the coup d’état!!!


32 posted on 06/05/2014 10:54:07 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Is Obama really that stupid?

No. He just hates America that much.

-PJ

33 posted on 06/05/2014 10:55:20 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: aquila48
Exactly. Is Obama "stupid" for releasing 5 VERY dangerous individuals out of GITMO? You bet.

Stupid, because this endangers a LOT of innocent people.

However, his stupidity and foolish moves are NEVER going to be called out.

Grahams toothless "Well, NEXT time it will make us very angry, indeed!" is nothing more than a dare to Obama.

And WHEN Obama releases more, if not ALL GITMO prisoners, there will be gnashing of teeth by republicans, but nothing else.

Look for some off the charts loony pardons and releases come January 2017.

Who loses? The American people.

For some reason, democrats just don't "get" that these Taliban thugs are going to be coming for everyone, not just "republicans".

They will go for some soft target, like a major city, which in almost every case is loaded with liberal pukes.

9/11 didn't wake many democrats up.

34 posted on 06/05/2014 11:01:49 PM PDT by boop (I just wanted a President. But I got a rock.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A drug test would answer a lot of questions.


35 posted on 06/05/2014 11:02:47 PM PDT by mom.mom
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To: mom.mom

You have a better chance of seeing his Occidental records.


36 posted on 06/05/2014 11:03:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think this Administration feels that it has so much protection from the press and celebrities that they would always be above the law and scrutiny.
I don’t think they totally thought it through, but based on the press in the past he would figure he would not need to.

Meanwhile, how’s that spying on the press doing?


37 posted on 06/05/2014 11:06:46 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: JimSEA
To our point of view this is treachery but this “trade” was not really a trade to Sunnis. He merely began to return his muslim brothers to their homeland, both the ones born in whatever-istan and the one born on US soil. He is also removing the “imperial power's” presence and making sure vast amounts of our wealth end up over there. Sounds to me like he is running for President of the Galaxy. I hope they beam him up real soon.
38 posted on 06/05/2014 11:20:49 PM PDT by i get it
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To: huckfillary
I repeat-—he is doing this out of stupidity

I believe he does this out of pure hatred for America and the arrogance his intellectual superiority is over bread and butter American's heads.

39 posted on 06/05/2014 11:25:40 PM PDT by llevrok (Straight. Since 1950.)
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To: Safrguns

This whole event proves that he is trying to get us to start impeachment proceedings before the November election. He’ll use it to turn out his base. If this Bergdahl ploy doesn’t work, he’ll keep pushing it and flaunting it in everyone’s face. It’s so obvious what the little queen is trying to pull off here.


40 posted on 06/05/2014 11:28:51 PM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: entropy12
Was Karl Marx stupid? He initiated the slow demise of Russian economy to the point of bankruptcy.

And many conservatives still dismiss the power of intellectuals.

Marx even from his grave is destroying the USA.

42 posted on 06/05/2014 11:40:45 PM PDT by freerepublicchat
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To: F15Eagle
To try and get the VA, IRS and Benghazi scandals off the front page and the newscasts? (VA anyways)

Probably right, but in the back of my mind is the *small, very small* thought that they may be all blithering, coked-up idiots at this stage of the game.

44 posted on 06/05/2014 11:47:49 PM PDT by The Cajun (tea party!!!, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert......Nuff said.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He’s from a different culture. He doesn’t understand how Americans think. For him, this was a good trade. It never occurred to him that anyone might see it any other way.


45 posted on 06/06/2014 12:03:52 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Wagglebee, welcome home we missed you! ~ Þ)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Is Obama really that stupid?

Like many on the left, Obama lives on a different planet. In Obama's world, American military deserters are the good guys. Those who serve with honor are the bad guys, the Genghis Khans. This is insane, but it is not necessarily a sign of stupidity. There are many high functioning leftists.

46 posted on 06/06/2014 1:09:29 AM PDT by TChad (The Obamacare motto: Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Don’t forget that he does not like America. He wants to get even and was reacting in covert anger after the VA revelations.


47 posted on 06/06/2014 2:22:10 AM PDT by AdaGray (q)
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To: BykrBayb

Obama knew it was a bad deal because Congressional Intelligence Committees told him it was. He ignored them. It was like trading Murderer’s Row for an iffy Single A prospect. Thanks Obama for putting a bigger targets on our backs. These 5 guys probably hate America even more now after spending umpteen years at Gitmo being tortured.


48 posted on 06/06/2014 3:35:19 AM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Michael.SF.

I’m glad to see someone else thinks like I do.


49 posted on 06/06/2014 3:38:58 AM PDT by MagnoliaB
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To: ogen hal

I happen to agree with you.


50 posted on 06/06/2014 3:47:35 AM PDT by marygam (I have extra ducktape for anyone who needs to wrap their head.)
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