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Establishment GOP Not So Secure: Cantor Losing Primary Fight? (primary Tuesday!!)
scotthymer.wordpress.com ^ | 6/6/14

Posted on 06/07/2014 5:36:42 AM PDT by cotton1706

After long-time (and I mean long time) Mississippi Senator Thad “I’ve been senile for years” Cochran was cajoled into running one last time (after having announced his retirement) against Tea Party-type Chris McDaniel, only to lose just enough to be in a run-off (giving him close to around multiple of zero change of winning), the crusty old Big Government Progressives in the Republican Party can’t be too happy about the following news:

Eric Cantor, long thought of by the Haaavahd and Yale “elites” that have been jacking up the country since about 1900, to be the next Speaker, should they have to concede John “Crybaby” Boehner to appease the Republican rank-and-file, isn’t doing so hot in his own primary challenge… In just two years, he’s fallen from about 72 support to just barely topping 50% vs. Dave Brat’s 40%.

Maybe, just maybe, Americans want an option to the Democrat’s Progressivism, and it’s zero-calorie version in the GOP.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: elections
Cantor's internal polling show hit at 62% while an outside group shows him at 52%.

But the two MS polls showed McDaniel at either 44% or 40% and the actual result was 49%.

So there's no telling what could happen on Tuesday!!

1 posted on 06/07/2014 5:36:42 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

What happens on Tuesday is not nearly as important as what happens in November.


2 posted on 06/07/2014 5:44:29 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (t)
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To: cotton1706

I’ll be pulling for McDaniel. Being in Alabama, I can’t vote there because I am not a democrat.


3 posted on 06/07/2014 6:00:49 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Stop wishing for a perfect world. You may get it. Who will you talk to then?)
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To: DugwayDuke

Actually, that is the wrong way to look at it. The Primary is where we can make the greatest impact on the November outcome. Defeat a Cantor, Boehner, Cochran in the Primary race and you have the guy or gal that you really want running in November.

This is how we can impose term limits. The only downside, is that it takes some effort to do.


4 posted on 06/07/2014 6:02:12 AM PDT by Howie66 ("Tone down the tagline please." - Admin Moderator)
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To: DugwayDuke

I see these primaries as potentially dangerous, though. If a LOT of establishment GOP are “primaried,” they know their time is up come November, regardless of the election winner. They might just pass amnesty knowing it’ll be one of the final big votes.

When career politicians are put up against the wall with the threat of being “de-throned,” they’ll start showing their true stripes.


5 posted on 06/07/2014 6:02:22 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: DugwayDuke

If things don’t go right Tuesday, November is a moot point.


6 posted on 06/07/2014 6:02:24 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Stop wishing for a perfect world. You may get it. Who will you talk to then?)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Pray for Primary Tuesday!


7 posted on 06/07/2014 6:09:21 AM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Blue Highway

I will!


8 posted on 06/07/2014 6:10:30 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Stop wishing for a perfect world. You may get it. Who will you talk to then?)
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To: DugwayDuke
what happens on Tuesday is not nearly as important as what happens in Novemeber

What happened last Tuesday and what happens this coming Tuesday are what can save us from the Republlican saboteurs who care nothing about our values.

If we don't get more constitutional conservatives in the HOR and US Senate the governing from DC will get worse, whatever party wins.

9 posted on 06/07/2014 6:20:43 AM PDT by grania
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To: DugwayDuke
What happens on Tuesday is not nearly as important as what happens in November.

I disagree. Cantor is one of the GOPe's primary weasels on immigration. He's trying to play his constituents for fools by posing as against it, all the while working to advance it.

Our best chance to put a stake through the heart of the amnesty push is to put fear into the hearts of RINOs. The best way to do that is to get rid of Eric Cantor.

Support Dave Brat to oust Eric Cantor in VA-7

Also, press your Representative to NOT support Cantor for Speaker.

10 posted on 06/07/2014 6:21:02 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: DugwayDuke
What happens on Tuesday is not nearly as important as what happens in November.

Several FReeper posters share your opinion. I no longer do. This acceptance of RINOs is what keeps the Republican Party in control of the elitists who bring harm continually to Constitutional conservatism in America. In some ways, as much as the Democrats.
11 posted on 06/07/2014 6:24:55 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: rarestia

That would merely move the date of the vote up. The Republicans were going to vote for amnesty anyway but after the election in the lame duck congress. Having guys primaried out will just mean they can do it sooner.


12 posted on 06/07/2014 6:39:35 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: rarestia

That’s a hump we just have to make it over though. The only other alternative is to keep the status quo, and America can’t survive much more of this status quo. Sometimes you have to act now because there won’t be another chance if you don’t act now.


13 posted on 06/07/2014 7:36:17 AM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: Howie66

“Actually, that is the wrong way to look at it. The Primary is where we can make the greatest impact on the November outcome. Defeat a Cantor, Boehner, Cochran in the Primary race and you have the guy or gal that you really want running in November.”

I see no benefit in defeating a republican in June if that results in a democrat winning in November.


14 posted on 06/07/2014 7:50:10 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (t)
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To: Resettozero

“Several FReeper posters share your opinion. I no longer do. This acceptance of RINOs is what keeps the Republican Party in control of the elitists who bring harm continually to Constitutional conservatism in America. In some ways, as much as the Democrats.”

I would much rather have Speaker Cantor than Speaker Pelosi.


15 posted on 06/07/2014 7:54:02 AM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: DugwayDuke

I went to Brat’s town hall meeting last night and it was mentioned that no demecrate is running in November. Therefore who wins in the primary wins the office.


16 posted on 06/07/2014 7:57:12 AM PDT by jimfr
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To: DugwayDuke
I would much rather have Speaker Cantor than Speaker Pelosi.

That's a pretty weak argument. And it's the one that has keep RINOs laughing at Constitutional conservatives for decades.
17 posted on 06/07/2014 7:58:30 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero

...kept...


18 posted on 06/07/2014 7:59:28 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: DugwayDuke
I see no benefit in defeating a republican in June if that results in a democrat winning in November.

And you are right. Someone did a great post on FR that they and others sat out the 2012 election because Romney wasn't good enough. He now sees that Romney wouldn't have ignored the Constitution, broken the law, and destroyed the country.

19 posted on 06/07/2014 8:01:41 AM PDT by Kenny
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To: Kenny

Unfortunately, there are those who’d rather vote for the perfect man than win with someone else. As I’ve said before, Jesus was the only perfect man and he isn’t on the ballot.


20 posted on 06/07/2014 8:10:40 AM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: Kenny
...now sees that Romney wouldn't have ignored the Constitution, broken the law, and destroyed the country.

Maybe you're right. But it's all conjecture.
21 posted on 06/07/2014 8:25:40 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: DugwayDuke
Unfortunately, there are those who’d rather vote for the perfect man than win with someone else.

You finally understand what FR is about?
22 posted on 06/07/2014 8:30:06 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: DugwayDuke
I see no benefit in defeating a Republican in June if that results in a Democrat winning in November.

This kind of thing must just...

Tickle You To Pieces

23 posted on 06/07/2014 8:32:03 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Fightin Whitey

No, it doesn’t tickle me to pieces but if re-electing Graham is the price to get rid of Harry Reid, then I’m glad to pay.


24 posted on 06/07/2014 9:17:25 AM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: DugwayDuke

“What happens on Tuesday is not nearly as important as what happens in November.”

So you’re Republican Congressman from Skokie (or wherever) predisposed to vote for Amnesty, even though your calls are running 20 to 1 against Amnesty. But the leadership is BEGGING for your support, so you figure you’ll give them this vote - and then make up with your constituents on later votes.

What happens next - you see Cantor LOSE HIS PRIMARY, something unheard of for a Congressional leader. And he lost because of AMNESTY and only Amnesty.

So when Cantor, who’s now a lame duck, taps you on the shoulder and begs you for that Amnesty vote - you might look at him a bit differently, particularly if you don’t want to immediately be forced to join him on K-Street.


25 posted on 06/07/2014 9:22:29 AM PDT by BobL
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To: DugwayDuke

“I see no benefit in defeating a republican in June if that results in a democrat winning in November.”

Two things:

1) Defeating Cantor on Amnesty means that the entire push for that crap will be on life-support, as other Congressmen will treat it as radioactive. Keeping one extra House seat would be fine if it were a no-name Republican, but this guy is pushing to repopulate the country with people from South of the Border, and he’s in the leadership position to do so - all he needs to do is call a vote and it’s GAME OVER, right now.

2) There isn’t a Democrat running in that district.


26 posted on 06/07/2014 9:25:43 AM PDT by BobL
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To: DugwayDuke

“I would much rather have Speaker Cantor than Speaker Pelosi.”

Arguable - when Pelosi was Speaker Amnesty went nowhere...although that would like change if she got back there.


27 posted on 06/07/2014 9:26:47 AM PDT by BobL
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To: BobL

“Arguable - when Pelosi was Speaker Amnesty went nowhere...although that would like change if she got back there.”

You like your ObamaCare?


28 posted on 06/07/2014 9:32:32 AM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: DugwayDuke
if re-electing Graham is the price to get rid of Harry Reid, then I’m glad to pay.

Well, one problem is that we all have to pay along with you.

I'm not an absolutist on this. I'd like to see Reid gone as well.

But people like you seem even more single-minded, to the point that you seem to be saying that you will vote for ANY Republican at any time.

I'd love to see a list of accomplishments you will expect out of a McConnell/Graham/Corker Senate and a Boehner/Cantor/McCarthy House...Reduced spending? Lower taxes? Tough border/immigration laws? Strict Constructionist judges? Stronger 2nd Amendment protections? Repeal of Obamacare?

What is your big selling point?

29 posted on 06/07/2014 9:40:33 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: cotton1706

There really is no telling! Lets hope we soon have Congressman Brat fighting for our liberty rather than Eric Cantor pimping amnesty. This victory would be huge. In fact, I think its ramifications on the party itself would actually be bigger than the victory of Senator McDaniel.


30 posted on 06/07/2014 9:53:54 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: DugwayDuke

Ummm, Cantor has no Democrat challenger, so Brat would walk into the seat


31 posted on 06/07/2014 9:55:21 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: DugwayDuke

Your statement on Lindsey Graham is beyond stupid. Lindsey Graham is the senator from SOUTH CAROLINA. There is ZERO chance of a Democrat being elected statewide there. So why would you not support his primary challengers who are about 70 times more conservative?


32 posted on 06/07/2014 9:56:49 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: DugwayDuke

“You like your ObamaCare?”

I certainly like it better than Amnesty. Amnesty ENDS THIS COUNTRY as we know it, Obamacare can be reversed.


33 posted on 06/07/2014 9:59:50 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Fightin Whitey

“But people like you seem even more single-minded, to the point that you seem to be saying that you will vote for ANY Republican at any time.”

I will vote for any republican when that keeps the seat from being filled by a democrat.

“I’d love to see a list of accomplishments you will expect out of a McConnell/Graham/Corker Senate and a Boehner/Cantor/McCarthy House...”

Keeping the democrats out of power is sufficient.


34 posted on 06/07/2014 11:40:00 AM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: DugwayDuke
Keeping the democrats out of power is sufficient.

That's worse than silly, it's Rovian.

You acknowledge you have no hope for different goals or policies from your RINO friends.

You just hope you will be in for a bigger cut of the spoils.

35 posted on 06/07/2014 12:55:42 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: DugwayDuke

“I see no benefit in defeating a republican in June if that results in a democrat winning in November.”

Primaries are to select which member of your own party will be you candidate in November.

Are you really this clueless about the election process?


36 posted on 06/07/2014 1:43:13 PM PDT by Howie66 ("Tone down the tagline please." - Admin Moderator)
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To: Howie66

“Are you really this clueless about the election process?”

My friend, I’m sorry you missed my point. I will spell it out for you.

It does no good to nominate a candidate in the primaries in June who stands no chance of beating the democrat in November. Doesn’t matter how good voting for that person in June makes you feel. What matters is beating the democrat in November. Unless you can do that, none of your preferred policies will ever get enacted.

If the only republican running in the primary who can beat the democrat in November is a liberal republican, then vote for the liberal republican.


37 posted on 06/07/2014 1:57:03 PM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: Fightin Whitey

“That’s worse than silly, it’s Rovian.”

No, what is silly is voting for a candidate in June who is certain to lose in November.


38 posted on 06/07/2014 1:58:28 PM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: DugwayDuke

The Cantor district is R+10. Only a Republican will win. They are not going to put a House leader in a district they could lose to a Democrat in a bad year.

The only primary that is anywhere near Akin-like is Tom Horne (R) against Cathy McMorris. The most conservative scenario is Tom Horne gets in 2nd place and it is McMorris vs Horne in November.

Nothing substantial is getting enacted while Obama is in office and Harry Reid has 41 votes.

Stopping 12 million undocumented Democrats is important and whether there is 230 or 240 House Republicans is irrelevant to that.

There needs to be a good performance by Brat like Frank Roche getting 41% against Ellmer’s backers.

Susan Collins is going to win her primary.


39 posted on 06/07/2014 4:11:52 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: BobL

I think 16 of the most conservative House Republicans should threaten to vote for Pelosi as speaker if amnesty is passed.


40 posted on 06/07/2014 4:13:12 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: DugwayDuke
what's silly is voting for a candidate in June who is certain to lose in November

Like whom? Greg Abbot in Texas? Chris McDaniel in Mississippi? Ben Sasse in Nebraska? Joni Ernst in Iowa?

How about Ted Cruz a couple years ago? I bet you about fall out of your rocker when he's on the tube, hey? Do you find yourself moaning Dewhurst, Dewhurst instead of "Rosebud"? Lol...

41 posted on 06/07/2014 6:57:47 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Fightin Whitey

lol


42 posted on 06/07/2014 6:58:25 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL; DugwayDuke

I don’t get the guy.

You can ask him what we should expect or hope for from McConnell, Boehner and the boys if we put them in the majority-—no response. No ideas. Not a wish list, not a principle, not a wavy line in the sand.

He’s got nothing.

But somehow the rest of us are damn fools because we want to put up a fight. How do these tired old RINOs think we got in a position to fight anyway?


43 posted on 06/07/2014 7:23:34 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Fightin Whitey

“But somehow the rest of us are damn fools because we want to put up a fight. How do these tired old RINOs think we got in a position to fight anyway?”

I don’t expect anything to change with a republican congress and senate. Nothing they pass of significance would be signed into law by Obama. But, at least, they would prevent the democrats from doing even more damage.

In order to pass any of your wishlists, you need a majority in the house, sixty votes in the senate and a republican in the white house. Until you get that, you get nothing, but nothing is better than the something you would get from Speaker Pelosi.


44 posted on 06/08/2014 6:19:23 AM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: DugwayDuke

What are you talking about, Speaker Pelosi?

If you really see that as a possibility this fall, it’s no wonder you sound so clueless in every other regard.

There is simply no sense to your statements here. If conservative America can see no meaningful change without sixty senate seats and a Republican president, then we may as well settle back and be contented with the occasionally obstructionist House that we have.

Which, come to think of it, is precisely your position.


45 posted on 06/08/2014 8:12:17 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Fightin Whitey

“There is simply no sense to your statements here. If conservative America can see no meaningful change without sixty senate seats and a Republican president, then we may as well settle back and be contented with the occasionally obstructionist House that we have.”

Yes, that’s pretty much my position. I am willing to change if you can provide a reasonable path to any other outcome.

Also, please refrain from calling me clueless.


46 posted on 06/08/2014 8:55:05 AM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: DugwayDuke

Check the post.

I didn’t call you clueless.

I said you sound clueless, which is materially different.

I notice another poster used the same term in reference to you, and you may be mistaking me for him—not that I would ever call you mistaken.

No worries. You see the world one way and I see it another, for which I am most grateful.

Good luck.


47 posted on 06/08/2014 11:31:49 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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