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Belmont claims 1 more Triple Crown pretender. Here are the 11 past winners, times and jockeys
Coach is Right ^ | 6/8/14 | Doug Book

Posted on 06/08/2014 9:37:40 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax

From about 1885 until 1915, pacers and trotters were racing royalty in America, the popularity of these standardbred horses greater than that of any baseball star or other spectator sport. When the immortal pacer Dan Patch fell ill in 1904, news of his malady traveled across the nation as racing fans and the public at large anxiously sought out the slightest scrap of information about his condition. Of course, at a time when Ty Cobb, the country’s highest paid baseball player made $12,000 per year, Dan Patch was earning $1 million! And stories of Dan’s successes on the track were regularly printed above those of Cobb on the nation’s sports pages.

Then in 1917, the mare Mahuba had a foal; a large, beautifully conformed, chestnut-colored colt which owner August Belmont’s wife Eleanor Robson Belmont would name Man o’ War. Two years later, racing on the turf had made an astonishing comeback. With even authorities in New York no longer working to drive thoroughbred racing with its “crooked bookies” and...

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TOPICS: History; Pets/Animals; Sports
KEYWORDS: belmontstakes; blogpimp; manowar; thoroughbreds; triplecrown
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1 posted on 06/08/2014 9:37:41 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: Oldpuppymax
Here are the 11 past winners, times and jockeys

Where? I don't see them.

What stopped you from posting them?

2 posted on 06/08/2014 9:38:49 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

You have to open the article to read the list.

What’s the story on the first colt with 2;17 TIME? Its that an error? Must be since later it gives the time of 2:28 as setting a Belmont record. That was before Secretariat, of course.


3 posted on 06/08/2014 9:55:42 AM PDT by Gumdrop (~)
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To: Gumdrop
You have to open the article to read the list.

Yeah, that's the scam.

Homeboy is pimping for hits.

There's no other reason for him to excerpt this blog.

The hits pay for his hookers and crack.

4 posted on 06/08/2014 9:58:10 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Oldpuppymax
From another thread

Triple Crown Winners

1919 - Sir Barton
1930 - Gallant Fox
1935 - Omaha
1937 - War Admiral
1941 - Whirlaway
1943 - Count Fleet
1946 - Assault
1948 - Citation
1973 - Secretariat
1977 - Seattle Slew
1978 - Affirmed


5 posted on 06/08/2014 10:03:33 AM PDT by deport
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To: deport

11 great horses. And the 1973 winner was the best of the 11.


6 posted on 06/08/2014 10:08:47 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary")
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To: Gumdrop
What’s the story on the first colt with 2;17 TIME? Its that an error? Must be since later it gives the time of 2:28 as setting a Belmont record. That was before Secretariat, of course.

The blog says that that earlier race from 1917 was 1 3/8 miles before they changed the distance to 1 1/2 miles.

7 posted on 06/08/2014 10:13:34 AM PDT by Chesterbelloc
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To: Oldpuppymax

The Triple Crown is a farce! Horses aren’t bred the same today as they were back then.


8 posted on 06/08/2014 10:16:11 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Gumdrop

The Belmont has had varying distances. Some were as high as 1 5/8 miles. That race was 1 3/8 miles.
The standard became 1 1/2 miles in 1925.


9 posted on 06/08/2014 10:25:07 AM PDT by deport
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To: deport
Triple Crowns Racing is global. Click the link, scroll down and see the various TPCs from around the world.
10 posted on 06/08/2014 10:31:32 AM PDT by deport
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To: fortheDeclaration

Can you explain what the difference is?


11 posted on 06/08/2014 10:50:47 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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General fragility of body and leg bones, in particular.

That’s why so many shatter their cannons and get put down.

Native Dancer gets the hereditary blame.


12 posted on 06/08/2014 10:59:16 AM PDT by Salamander (He ain't heavy, he's my Boa.)
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To: deport
Looking at this record it can be shown mathematically that a 37 year wait between winners is not so unusual.
Year	Gap
1919	
1930	11
1935	5
1937	2
1941	4
1943	2
1946	3
1948	2
1973	25
1977	4
1978	1

The standard deviation is 7.3 years so to wait 37 years is about a 1 in 10,000 event. Seems like we should be asking if there has been a fundamental change in the system.

However, look at the "track" record through 1948. Standard deviation is only 4.1. A winner every 3-4 years.

But then there's a 25 year gap until 1973. Wow. This equates to a 1 in a million gap given the track record up until 1948.

So the owner was correct.

He (we) may not live to see another TC. However, with the experience in gaps to date, this is normal. Not due to changes in the sport.

13 posted on 06/08/2014 11:21:03 AM PDT by cicero2k
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To: CaptainK

Horsey style isn’t as popular anymore?


14 posted on 06/08/2014 11:28:41 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Salamander
Native Dancer gets the hereditary blame.

Did you mean Northern Dancer? You mean we can blame Canada once again?

15 posted on 06/08/2014 11:36:41 AM PDT by hecticskeptic
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No, it’s Native, not Northern.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/horse/triplecrown08/columns/story?id=3399004

Ruffian is why I have not watched a horse race since she went down.

Their legs are too light and they’re too “greyhound-y” compared to Man O’ War and the older, heavier horses.


16 posted on 06/08/2014 11:59:14 AM PDT by Salamander (He ain't heavy, he's my Boa.)
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To: Salamander

My mistake... Native Dancer was the damsire of Northern Dancer.


17 posted on 06/08/2014 12:03:50 PM PDT by hecticskeptic
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To: hecticskeptic
Yes, and the prepotent Raise A Native infiltrates nearly every blood horse on the track.

Eight Belles gave her all and her reward was exploded legs and a needleful of death.

Horses are intelligent, sentient animals.

What must she have been thinking?

I hate horse racing.

18 posted on 06/08/2014 12:18:43 PM PDT by Salamander (He ain't heavy, he's my Boa.)
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To: Salamander

The modern thoughbred is an accident waiting to happen.All muscle and about half the bone needed to get all that energy to the ground.The only horses that Beckie and I will own are foundation bred quarterhorses or mustangs.The muscle and bone are in balance with these animals,and their minds and temperment are vastly superior.


19 posted on 06/08/2014 12:33:42 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: deport

The interesting thing about that list is that only one horse, Seattle Slew, amounted to much at stud.


20 posted on 06/08/2014 12:33:48 PM PDT by Catmom (We're all gonna get the punishment only some of us deserve.)
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