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Bill Would Allow Strip Searches for Misdemeanor Crimes; Probable Cause Not Necessary
Capitol Confidential ^ | 6/10/2014 | Tom Gantert

Posted on 06/10/2014 6:20:54 AM PDT by MichCapCon

Citing safer jails and a reduction in unnecessary lawsuits, State Sen. Rick Jones introduced legislation that would allow anyone put in jail for a misdemeanor to be strip searched without probable cause.

Sen. Jones, R-Grand Ledge, introduced Senate Bill 958 last week. It was referred to the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Sen. Jones said the law would bring Michigan's jails in line with the federal prisons, where he said strip searches are allowed without cause. There have been people with weapons hidden on or inside their bodies, he said. Sen. Jones has a background in public safety and served as a jail administrator for four years.

Sen. Jones "It is just simply not safe to not check people before you put them in the jail population," he said.

Oakland County Sheriff Mike Bouchard said there are many examples of people smuggling contraband and weapons inside their bodies. And he said he's seen it happen with people convicted on seemingly non-violent crimes.

"[T]he only way we can keep a facility safe is to have the ability to do a strip search," Sheriff Bouchard said.

Without it, he said, "lives will be lost; it's the simplest answer."

Rana Elmir, deputy director of the ACLU of Michigan, said the civil rights organization strongly opposes the bill.

"Forcibly strip searching a person without suspicion who is being held for a minor infraction is a heavy-handed solution in search of a nonexistent problem," Elmir said. "Allowing our jails to conduct blanket strip searches without suspicion is wrongheaded, degrading and unnecessary across the board, but doing this to people who simply neglected to pay a traffic ticket or are in court because they got caught fishing out of season is particularly egregious."


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: michigan; police

1 posted on 06/10/2014 6:20:54 AM PDT by MichCapCon
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To: MichCapCon

Would this apply to someone entering lockup after a mere arrest and awaiting the payment of bail or just those who have been sentenced to prison after being convicted? Major difference.


2 posted on 06/10/2014 6:22:48 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: MichCapCon

I’m with the ACLU on this one. A simple metal detector would catch weapons.


3 posted on 06/10/2014 6:29:35 AM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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To: circlecity

“Allowing our jails to conduct blanket strip searches without suspicion is wrongheaded, degrading and unnecessary across the board, but doing this to people who simply neglected to pay a traffic ticket or are in court because they got caught fishing out of season is particularly egregious.”

I usually do not agree with the ACLU but in this instance I do and I think the comment by them answers you question, this means after an arrest for any minor crime. We are being desensitized as a nation, it is a growing problem. 25 years ago any notion the government would be spying upon us from space, from vehicles driving by, from a plethora of cameras and the like would have been laughable, today it is common place and almost never raises an eye brow. Once the government gets all the legal guns away from the population, we will become the equal of cattle.


4 posted on 06/10/2014 6:31:12 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Mouton

My liberal uncle claims we do not have an autocratic government.


5 posted on 06/10/2014 6:45:56 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: MichCapCon

What would be even safer is to just kill every offender. Guilty or not. We could then save a lot of money on jails and courts and all that unnecessary stuff.

Do I need a sarc tag?


6 posted on 06/10/2014 6:47:59 AM PDT by SolidRedState (I used to think bizarro world was a fiction.)
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To: aimhigh

I’d half expect for the ACLU to say it was OK as long as there was an exemption for minorities.


7 posted on 06/10/2014 6:50:12 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: MichCapCon
If you go to Jail they already strip search you and take my Belt and Shoe laces.
Oh wait.. oops. MT...
8 posted on 06/10/2014 6:52:35 AM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: MichCapCon

Sexual deviancy is everywhere these days.


9 posted on 06/10/2014 6:54:58 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: aimhigh

A toothbrush “shank” won’t set off a magnetometer.

Everyone should recognize that jail is punishment. Humiliation is a tool to punish.


10 posted on 06/10/2014 6:55:47 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: SolidRedState
Couple more years of Ubama and it won't be sarcasm.
11 posted on 06/10/2014 6:57:24 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

“My liberal uncle claims we do not have an autocratic government.”

Just an oversight, he probably meant to include “self serving” in the phrase too!


12 posted on 06/10/2014 7:09:56 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Rodamala
A toothbrush “shank” won’t set off a magnetometer. Everyone should recognize that jail is punishment. Humiliation is a tool to punish.

AND NO PUNISHMENT IS TOO GREAT!!!11!! NOR IS ANY INFRACTION TOO SMALL!!!1111!!11! KILLL KILLLLL KILLLLLLLLL KILL EVERY OFFENDER, TORTURE THEM UPON ARREST, PULL OUT THEIR EYEBALLS!!! KIILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

13 posted on 06/10/2014 7:14:22 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Rodamala
Everyone should recognize that jail is punishment. Humiliation is a tool to punish.

Didn't you get the memo? Shame and humiliation are now strictly reserved for old, rich white guys. Common criminals and offenders need not apply. Jail time is considered a right of passage and a resume builder for a growing portion of the population.

14 posted on 06/10/2014 7:22:46 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: MichCapCon

Fascism coming from a Republican.


15 posted on 06/10/2014 7:38:19 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: Rodamala

Punishment is supposed to happen AFTER conviction. Not before.

The big picture issue is that people are being tossed in the clink for misdemeanor arrests prior to obtaining a conviction. Therein lies the problem. No one should be going to jail prior to conviction on a minor offense. The exceptions should be:

1. Jail for failure to appear as a result of a criminal arrest.
2. Jail for those who are currently a danger to themselves or others upon court order (I.e the arrestee is drunk).
3. Felony arrests.
4. Upon conviction for relatively serious misdemeanors.

Otherwise the police should hand you your ticket and send you on your way. God help me but I agree with the aclu.


16 posted on 06/10/2014 7:48:33 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Be a part of the American freedom migration: freestateproject.org)
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To: MichCapCon

I thought that every prisoner was strip searched, before they were put in with the other prisoners.


17 posted on 06/10/2014 8:14:44 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: Lazamataz
Oh my... you must be one of those NRA people that "members of Congress are terrified of".

</sarc>

18 posted on 06/10/2014 6:00:41 PM PDT by Rodamala
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