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5 Truths You’re Not Allowed To Say About Gays In America
Right Wing News ^ | June 10, 2014 | John Hawkins

Posted on 06/12/2014 6:52:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

It’s hard to have an honest conversation about gay issues because liberals treat anything other than outright celebration of all things gay as “hate.” That doesn’t leave people much room to discuss a complicated issue that involves real human beings who often have to deal with a lot of challenges because of their sexual orientation. If you’re a compassionate person, you have to feel some sympathy when you talk to people who are closeted because they’re afraid that their relatives won’t accept them or someone who feels isolated and alone because his sexual orientation makes it impossible for him to have a romantic relationship with 98% of the population. Life is hard for most of us — and if you know people who are gay, chances are you recognize that it’s even harder for them.

Yet and still, you can’t deny reality because there may be a few people who don’t want to hear it. Sure, you don’t want to unnecessarily create pain in people’s lives, but ultimately, nothing creates more misery than abandoning common sense because the obvious truth might hurt someone’s feelings.

1) You can’t change your gender: Have you ever heard of Body Integrity Identity Disorder? Long story short, there are people out there who believe they’re “supposed to” have less limbs. Maybe they want to get rid of an arm or a leg. The “problem” these people run into is that surgeons consider it unethical to remove a healthy, functioning body part and refuse to saw off their limbs. Instead, they just refer these people to a psychologist. That seems to make sense, doesn’t it?

Yet, when we have people who want to mutilate themselves to “change their sex,” we don’t treat that as a mental disorder. Instead, we take it seriously. So seriously in fact, we have 9 year olds getting hormone treatments so they can pretend to be another gender.

If a client went to a doctor and said he thought he was a cow, we wouldn’t send him to a surgeon to get horns and udders attached. Yet, you can no more change your sex than you can change into a cow. Even if you have a “sex change,” your sex hasn’t actually changed. A man who mutilates himself to look like a woman, still isn’t female. He can’t have a child. Very few men are going to knowingly date a man who’s surgically mutilated himself to look like a woman. This is a terrible, horrible thing we’re doing as a society to these mentally ill people. Instead of getting them the mental help they need, we’re catering to their pathology. It’s cruel, it’s wrong, and a more compassionate society wouldn’t wallow so deeply in political correctness that we’d allow people to do this to themselves.

2) Some people do choose to be gay: Most Americans tend to believe that people who are gay either choose it OR are born that way. However, the evidence suggests that there tends to more of a range of sexual behavior for people who are gay. Some people are clearly “born” gay and have always been attracted to the same sex just like most heterosexuals are only interested in contact with the opposite sex. However, there are also people who are more sexually ambiguous and some of them CHOOSE to be gay. If you want to see an actual example of that, here’s an excerpt of an interview I did with lesbian talk show host, Tammy Bruce.

John Hawkins: Let me ask a related question to this because I thought this was kind of fascinating because it’s so different from what you often hear. In the book, you were talking about how you came to decide that you wanted to be a lesbian and you pretty much framed it in those terms. It was a choice. You were attracted to men and women and you chose to — you just liked women better — would you say that’s common or….

Tammy Bruce: Well, it’s difficult to say because it’s so politically incorrect to ask these questions. It’s one of the reasons why ‘ and I’ve made that discussion in the epilogue ‘ so that…parents (could allow) their children (to read) at their discretion.

…There is such a variety, at least within the community itself, …about why women identify as lesbians, but even what that means.

There are a number of women who identify as lesbians, some of them, somewhat well-known, have regular liaisons with men. …There are some women in the community that you could get to know…who’ve experienced violence at the hands of men and have turned to women for that reason. There are other women who say that they’ve been gay since they’ve been born and that, of course, is also politically incorrect to question or to ask them how or why they know that.

If that doesn’t convince you, then ask yourself why so many “gay” Americans end up with kids?

In the US, around 37% of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transsexual people have a child, about 60% of which are biological.

In other words, there are a lot of “gay” Americans having enough straight sex at some point in their lives to produce a kid. Again, it’s clear that there are also people who are “born that way,” but there are an awful lot of gay Americans who don’t fall into that category.

3) Conversion therapy is a good thing if people want it: Let me say it as clearly as I can: No gay American should be pressured, harassed or involuntarily forced to go to therapy to try to treat their gayness. That sounds more like brainwashing than therapy and it’s not something that should be going on in this country.

On the other hand, if someone who’s gay WANTS to be treated, why should he be stopped from seeing a therapist? Granted, it would probably be futile for someone who has been attracted to the same sex since birth to try to change his orientation via counseling, but as we’ve already noted, not everyone is in that boat. There are plenty of “gay” Americans who also feel some attraction to the opposite sex. What’s wrong with letting them get therapy if they want it and think it will make them happier? As a psychology major, I can tell you that I’ve read numerous old psychology books that matter-of-factly mention therapists successfully treating homosexual patients who then went on to date, marry, and have children. Does that mean it worked for every patient? Of course, not. No treatment works for everyone. But, would it work for some people who want treatment? Apparently, it does.

So, why should this even be a political issue? Because it makes some gay people who don’t believe they can change or don’t want to change uncomfortable? Because it might mean they have to tell some hopeful relative that, no, that therapy isn’t for them? That’s certainly not a conversation anyone would want to have, but it’s morally wrong to deny therapy to people who might benefit from it because it makes other people uncomfortable.

4) Gay bullies have become commonplace in America: The biggest jerks you will ever run across are people who feel entitled to act like creeps because they believe they’re victims. A lot of gay Americans have had bad experiences with people who’ve treated them poorly because they’re gay. It’s unfair, it’s wrong, and it’s something that shouldn’t happen.

Unfortunately, a small subset of gay, liberal Americans wear their victimhood as a badge and believe it entitles them to oppress people who haven’t hurt them in any way. The whole idea that an unwilling Christian baker or photographer should be forced to bake a cake or take pictures at a gay wedding is fascistic. It’s similarly despicable to try to get people fired for opposing gay marriage. The people doing these things aren’t victims or crusading for civil rights; they’re just run-of-the-mill ***holes who happen to be waving a rainbow flag.

5) Gay scoutmasters would be more likely to molest Boy Scouts: There’s a lot of back and forth on whether gay men are more likely to be pedophiles than heterosexuals, but in the end, it really doesn’t matter very much when it comes to the Scouts.

Why is that?

Because a teenager in the Boy Scouts shouldn’t be spending a lot of alone time out in the woods with someone who could potentially be attracted to him. This is so basic we don’t even think about it when teen girls are involved. If a thirty year old, strapping male P.E. teacher took a group of 15 year old cheerleaders out in the woods, their parents would GO INSANE. Incidentally, they’d be right to be upset. Similarly, a gay man has no business being in the woods with a bunch of teenage boys. In fact, if the Boy Scouts ever allowed gay Scoutmasters in their organization, it would kill them as dead as Disco because most parents don’t want their child spending a lot of alone time with an adult who could be sexually attracted to him. In fact, that is so obvious it’s clear that the people pushing this idea the hardest are primarily concerned with destroying the Boy Scouts, not enabling “gay rights.”


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To: 2ndDivisionVet
**A lot of gay Americans have had bad experiences with people who’ve treated them poorly because they’re gay. It’s unfair, it’s wrong, and it’s something that shouldn’t happen.**

And a whole lot more straight people have been not only unfairly treated, but harassed, bullied, sued, taunted, and put at risk because they're straight. And THAT'S something that shouldn't happen.

Let's tell the whole story.

21 posted on 06/12/2014 7:20:37 PM PDT by Paulie (Buy local, bank local, exert your influence locally; the left will fold like a cheap suit.)
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To: NetAddicted

Homosexuals are also much more likely to have clinical depression, but no serious studies can be done because it acknowledges the premise. We’re supposed to pretend they’re always happy, hence we have to call them “gay”.


22 posted on 06/12/2014 7:21:57 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: achilles2000

Bingo!!! Please use “homosexual” instead of “gay.” Why allow them to hijack the language?


23 posted on 06/12/2014 7:22:22 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: muir_redwoods

The Beatitudes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3gfMakdlHo


24 posted on 06/12/2014 7:30:18 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How about the basic: it is sin.

We are all sinners, but we are called to repent and turn from our sin.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Galatians 6:7-8 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.


Homosexuals, Gays, Sodomites, or whatever names they choose to go by need to know that they are continuing in sin without even trying to turn away from it. And the wages of sin is death. The second death. Where the soul is reunited with the body and cast into the eternal lake of fire. Forever. The warning must go out to those that are trapped in a sinful lifestyle - there is a judgment, and unless they repent and turn, they will be damned eternally.

Ezekiel 18:30c-32 ... Repent, and turn yourselves from all your transgressions; so iniquity shall not be your ruin. Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel? For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye.

There is a way out - but only on this side of the grave - come to Christ and beg for forgiveness and strength to turn from the clutches of Satan.

Psalms 66:18 If I regard iniquity in my heart, the Lord will not hear me:

So turn from iniquity, and turn to Christ, so we can say:

Psalms 66:19-20 But verily God hath heard me; he hath attended to the voice of my prayer. Blessed be God, which hath not turned away my prayer, nor his mercy from me.

25 posted on 06/12/2014 7:40:52 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: El Cid

‘Tis true, FRiend. However....suggest this to any rabid homosexual and their reaction will be astounding. They will hiss at you like cats, scream obscenities at you, and generally treat you as though you just offered to dip them in boiling oil.

I call it demonic control, if not outright possession.


26 posted on 06/12/2014 7:49:09 PM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: Secret Agent Man
add #7 - the physical act of sodomy is disgusting. the anus was not designed for sex and has no self-cleaning ability whatsoever like the vagina’does.

Epithelium is the histologic term for the tissue lining or covering an organ or structure. The vagina is lined with stratified squamous epithelium, well suited for repeated external friction. Skin is also covered by stratified squamous epithelium.

The rectal canal is lined with simple columnar epithelium. This fragile type is capable of mucous secretion to facilitate evacuation. When damaged (easily with repeated friction), a pathway is created for the entry of micro-organisms to the vascular system.

Read your owner's manual.

27 posted on 06/12/2014 7:50:12 PM PDT by gasport (Will operate for food.)
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To: Fungi
Please use “homosexual” instead of “gay.”

There is nothing festive about condyloma accuminata.

28 posted on 06/12/2014 7:53:35 PM PDT by gasport (Will operate for food.)
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To: FlJoePa
Add #7: Most homosexuals are not harmless Glee characters. You've heard about the epidemic of sexual assaults in the US military in 2013 and 2014. You're supposed to believe that these are all crimes against female personnel. They aren't. The majority of sexual assault cases in the US military are against men. And no one will say that.
29 posted on 06/12/2014 8:00:16 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In fact, if the Boy Scouts ever allowed gay Scoutmasters in their organization, it would kill them as dead as Disco

I don't know about that. The Boy Scouts might suddenly become popular in certain parts of the Country.

30 posted on 06/12/2014 8:01:34 PM PDT by BBell (The Blue Dog is Stupid)
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To: Fungi

Thanks...I prefer “sodomite”. ;-)


31 posted on 06/12/2014 8:03:13 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Pharmboy
In studies of monozygotic twins raised apart, we find some heritability of homosexuality in males, which is by no means determinative; about forty percent of the time, the identical twin of a homosexual male is also homosexual. That means, most of the time, identical DNA DOES NOT produce male homosexuals. So there is clearly a very large component of learning, choice, environment ... or whatever.

More interestingly, in all cases we have of female homosexuals raised apart, identical twins are NEVER both homosexuals. This suggests very strongly that female homosexuality is ENTIRELY learned or chosen.

Despite the scientific evidence, no one is going to say this.

32 posted on 06/12/2014 8:07:24 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das is nicht richtig nur falsch. Das ist nicht einmal falsch.)
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To: Fai Mao
Of course some people are born homosexual.

Just like some people are born with two heads, a cleft palate, or with both male and female sex organs. It's called a birth defect.

The problem is, that's no excuse for acting on it.

If you are only sexually attracted to small children, you learn not to act on that behavior, or you go to jail.

If you are turned on by burning things, you learn to control what you burn, or you get thrown in jail for arson.

If you are a kleptomaniac you either learn to control your desire to steal or you get thrown in jail or put away in an asylum.

Just because one might be suffering from some sort of mental illness or from a birth defect which predisposes them to be attracted to someone of the opposite sex does not be that they are forced to act on such an impulse.

33 posted on 06/12/2014 8:15:48 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Here is what I don't get...

How come feminine men dont seek out butch lesbians for relationships?

if they prefer catching... why not just seek out a women who wishes to pitch who also wants to look and act like a man? it seems to me that a butch lesbian would be the perfect mate for a feminine man. Heck they could both get sex changes if they wished and not have to pretend.

34 posted on 06/12/2014 8:18:47 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: achilles2000
Yes, truth always preferable to “euphemisms.”
35 posted on 06/12/2014 8:28:50 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: hometoroost

Why bother?

Never try to teach a pig to sing;
It wastes your time, and annoys the pig!


36 posted on 06/12/2014 8:33:09 PM PDT by Taxman
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To: FredZarguna

I have been assaulted my homosexual men three times in my life.

I don’t much care for homosexuals, and should one “come on” to me, I’m likely to become VERY unFRiendly!


37 posted on 06/12/2014 8:38:22 PM PDT by Taxman
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To: gasport

in layman’s terms, the vaginal canal tissues are designed for back and forth friction from an inserted penis. the anal tissues are not.


38 posted on 06/12/2014 8:41:20 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Unfortunately, a small subset of gay, liberal Americans wear their victimhood as a badge and believe it entitles them to oppress people who haven’t hurt them in any way.

It's a lot more that a "small subset".

A LOT more.
39 posted on 06/12/2014 8:43:57 PM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It’s hard to have an honest conversation about gay issues because liberals treat anything other than outright celebration of all things gay as “hate.” That doesn’t leave people much room to discuss a complicated issue...yes it does - when are we going to stop letting the other side constantly define the terms of the discussion for us? - simply state that you are most certainly not advocating "hate" and then proceed to give your position, perhaps suggesting that the real hatemongers are those who try to silence all sides of an argument but their own......
40 posted on 06/12/2014 8:57:59 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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