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Proposed State Law Would End Blowout High School Football Games Early
Capitol Confidential ^ | 6/12/2014 | Jack Spencer

Posted on 06/13/2014 9:46:07 AM PDT by MichCapCon

A Democratic state representative wants to send a sportsmanship message to high school athletes and has authored a bill that would end some football games early.

State Rep. Robert Kosowski, D-Westland, introduced House Bill 5605 last week, which would prohibit a public school from participating in an interscholastic football game unless the Michigan High School Athletic Association creates a rule to end games if one team has a lead of 17 points or more with a minute or less remaining.

Rep. Kosowski Rep. Kosowski said the law would allow the game to be ended or the team with the ball to snap it without the opposing team encroaching after the snap. He said the bill was inspired by a 2011 high school playoff game that led to assault charges against four players for hitting and injuring a quarterback in the final moments of a game when he took a knee.

Rep. Kosowski said the parents of P.J. Guse asked if he could do something about that incident. Guse was the quarterback who took a knee as his Westland Lutheran High School team was beating Star International Academy 47-6. According to news reports, the referees had warned the players on Star International Academy that Guse was going to take a knee to run out the clock. But the four players still broke the line and hit Guse, which resulted in a concussion. The four players were charged with assault and battery. A judge dismissed the case, but called the actions by the four players deplorable.

Rep. Kosowski, who played college football at Adrian College, said he didn't think government should take a role in how high school football games should be played, but felt compelled to do something when approached by the parents of the injured player.

"This is more for awareness," Rep. Kosowski said. "It starts the conversation."

He said he knew the Michigan High School Athletic Association wouldn't like his bill.

"I don't want to write rules for them," Rep. Kosowski said. "I am trying to make them aware that this is an issue that needs to be looked at." He said he wasn't aware of any other incidents in the last minute of blowout games.

Ann Arbor had an incident in 2012 that led to a post-game brawl and a coach being fired after unsportsmanlike conduct and allegations of one team trying to run up the score in the final minute of the game.

The Michigan High School Athletic Association has rules in place that call for a "running clock" during a football game when a lead is 35 points or more in the second half. When a running clock is in play, time is not stopped for plays that go out of bounds, first downs or other instances that normally require the clock to be stopped temporarily.

"We already have provisions in the rules for a number of sports, which either result in a running clock or the termination of play when a certain point margin differential has been reached, and they have served us well," said John Johnson, spokesman for the MHSAA. "I'm sure we'll have some follow up on this recently introduced bill."

The bill has been referred to the House Education Committee.


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: sports

1 posted on 06/13/2014 9:46:07 AM PDT by MichCapCon
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To: MichCapCon

The democrat philosophy. A law to restrict and regulate every human activity. Anything not mandatory is prohibited.


2 posted on 06/13/2014 9:48:48 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: MichCapCon

Is a remake of Heidi planned?

That game was closer with a minute remaining.


3 posted on 06/13/2014 9:49:58 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: MichCapCon
He said he knew the Michigan High School Athletic Association wouldn't like his bill.

How does he know?

Did he ask them?

Or does he just resent the fact that they control something which he thinks the government should control at the state level?

4 posted on 06/13/2014 9:50:40 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: MichCapCon

allegations of one team trying to run up the score in the final minute of the game.

O HEAVENS NOOOO!


5 posted on 06/13/2014 9:51:52 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: MichCapCon; GeronL
Next thing you know they will be applying this to election night returns.


6 posted on 06/13/2014 9:52:52 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: MichCapCon
Why not just do away with football altogher, if that is what he thinks?

These liberals want to remove competition from society and put everyone on foodstamps and welfare.

If one gets your rear-end kicked in football, maybe they should realize this is the real world

Sort of like saying, well the person has cancer, so just give up... No use in trying... Never mind all the people that survive cancer...

7 posted on 06/13/2014 9:54:16 AM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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To: MichCapCon

Really? Do we need a law for that?


8 posted on 06/13/2014 9:55:25 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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PART TIME LEGISLATURE!!!!!!!

Dumb asses just gotta legislate when they’re there every day.


9 posted on 06/13/2014 9:55:26 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: MichCapCon
And we need a LAW for this , WHY ? ! ?

Are you kidding me ?

10 posted on 06/13/2014 9:55:37 AM PDT by builder (I don't want a piece of someone else's pie)
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To: MichCapCon

Third string players should be up in arms!


11 posted on 06/13/2014 9:56:10 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: MichCapCon

Why is THE STATE getting involved in this???


12 posted on 06/13/2014 9:56:19 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: MichCapCon

I like it when politicians set out to mess up sports as they have so many other areas of our lives.


13 posted on 06/13/2014 9:57:15 AM PDT by morphing libertarian ( On to impeachment and removal (IRS, Taliban, Fast and furious, VA, Benghazi)!!!)
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To: MichCapCon

This is something that needs to be legislated??? If this is all the Michigan legislature has to worry about, it should be disbanded and the Capitol rented out for flea-market stalls.


14 posted on 06/13/2014 9:58:33 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: MichCapCon

So ONE incident creates the necessity for another law.

Madness.

.


15 posted on 06/13/2014 9:58:42 AM PDT by Mears
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To: MichCapCon
"This is more for awareness," Rep. Kosowski said. "It starts the conversation."

Let's start THIS conversation.

Do away with more laws.

Fine any lawmaker that proposes a new one.

Or trade them for some hostage somewhere held in the world. But get these stupid idiots wanting to start conversations away from my life.

16 posted on 06/13/2014 9:59:36 AM PDT by builder (I don't want a piece of someone else's pie)
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To: tcrlaf
Because we have a full time legislature and they gotta do something while they're there. Not everything they do is bad but for every piece of good legislation they pass, a half dozen others are passed apparently to pass the time.

This was good

Senate Bill 910: Ban enforcement of new woodstove emissions limits Passed 25 to 12 in the Senate on June 11, 2014, to prohibit Department of Environmental Quality from imposing new state regulations limiting emissions from woodstoves and heaters, or enforcing federal regulations that do this. The bill was introduced as news reports indicate that proposed federal Environmental Protection Agency rules would impose restrictive new limits on wood burning heaters.

These are crap.

Senate Bill 877: Authorize “Pure Michigan Trail” designations Passed 108 to 2 in the House on June 11, 2014, to revise the law authorizing a state “snowmobile and trails advisory council” so as to conform to the proposal in Senate Bill 873 to create a statewide multi-use trail network and the designation of “Pure Michigan Water Trails”.

Senate Bill 853: Ban automated eyeglass “kiosks” Passed 108 to 2 in the House on June 11, 2014, to prohibit automated testing devices that provide automated eye exams and issue prescriptions for glasses or contact lenses. Instead, only licensed optometrists and physicians specializing in eye care could write eyeglass and contact lens prescriptions. This would preempt eyeglass “kiosks” in drugstores and other retail locations, which is a lower cost alternative to conventional optometry services that are expanding in some other states.


17 posted on 06/13/2014 10:05:00 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: MichCapCon
"a rule to end games if one team has a lead of 17 points or more with a minute or less remaining."

Granted, any "law" on this matter is nothing a legislature should be involved with and overreaching, but even if someone were convinced such a law was appropriate, this specific example is just stupid. I don't know of a single, dedicated football player who wouldn't think they could score 17 points in the last minute with a couple of big plays, a turnover and a few breaks. I've seen it happen. To just end the game would infuriate these players with the idea they were robbed of the chance to make a last minute comeback. At the very least they could score 7 or 10 points and make it a relatively good game rather than being embarassed with the tag that they sucked so bad they had to be put out of their misery.

18 posted on 06/13/2014 10:05:58 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: MichCapCon

It’s a shame some of these coaches have 0 class and get off on running up the score.
I was at a game and the score was 42-0 in the 4th quarter and the winning team faked a punt on 4th down.
The same coach went for a touchdown to make his score 62 to something. I asked the a d why he would do something like that. He said because the coach was 62 and he wanted to match his age.
Typical of this culture.


19 posted on 06/13/2014 10:06:09 AM PDT by Post5203 (For the first time in my life, I despise this country.)
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To: treetopsandroofs

The Heidi Bowl. Ah for the days when the Raiders weren’t fielding HS players.

http://www.raiders.com/news/article-1/Heidi-Bowl/97e7c348-3673-4d68-9a23-c5c7937c6e81


20 posted on 06/13/2014 10:06:44 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: MichCapCon

So you eliminate any chance of a comeback, in order to help the only party who could benefit from a comeback. Got it.


21 posted on 06/13/2014 10:06:59 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: MichCapCon

The correct response would have been to ban the 4 defensive players for the remainder of the season. Or, if that was the last game of the season, and they were seniors, to make them or their parents pay for the QB’s medical bills.


22 posted on 06/13/2014 10:07:18 AM PDT by woweeitsme
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To: MichCapCon

HS baseball has a mercy rule. Usually after 5 (regulation 7) innings if a team is getting blown out, it’s over. At that level, if it doesn’t soothe egos, at least it’s less stress on pitcher’s arms.


23 posted on 06/13/2014 10:08:35 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: woweeitsme

I would have banned them for life from any hope of NCAA participation.

Thugs are nothing more than mini gangs who act without thinking about reprisals.....


24 posted on 06/13/2014 10:14:19 AM PDT by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: Post5203

Seems like a good time for the winning coach to give his usual bench sitters a chance to play. If you’re going to win anyway, why not put your worst guys in and let them play out the remaining time. It certainly doesn’t need a law.

A couple weeks back when the Detroit Tigers were losing badly, Brad Ausmus put short stop Danny Worth on the mound to avoid wasting the bullpen. They still lost but Worth struck out two batters.


25 posted on 06/13/2014 10:17:07 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: onedoug

Yeah we played with a 10 run rule in little league. No need for a law.


26 posted on 06/13/2014 10:19:48 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: from occupied ga

Can we just skip the games and hand out trophies to all?


27 posted on 06/13/2014 10:22:49 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: showme_the_Glory

Youth and HS hockey league refs have been known to run out the clock while positioning between the players.
“Oooops, game over!”


28 posted on 06/13/2014 10:32:25 AM PDT by namvolunteer (Obama says the US is subservient to the UN and the Constitution does not apply. That is treason.r)
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To: MichCapCon

Defeatism...the new lexicon of the “do-gooder”liberal left! What ever happened to the immortal words of the late Sen. John Blutarski who said;
Bluto: What? Over? Did you say “over”? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
Otter: [to Boon] Germans?
Boon: Forget it, he’s rolling.
Bluto: And it ain’t over now. ‘Cause when the goin’ gets tough...
[thinks hard of something to say]
Bluto: The tough get goin’! Who’s with me? Let’s go!
Toughen up America!


29 posted on 06/13/2014 10:34:16 AM PDT by 7thOF7th (Righteousness is our cause and justice will prevail!)
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To: showme_the_Glory
Can we just skip the games and hand out trophies to all?

You mean kind of like they do with income? With those who don't work sharing the fruits of the labor of those who do. ("income inequality" horrors)

30 posted on 06/13/2014 10:34:36 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: MichCapCon
if one team has a lead of 17 points or more with a minute or less remaining.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What? I have seen games where 2 touchdowns and 2 point PATs have been scored in 19 seconds. Penn State did it years ago against an opponent in a downpour. When the hell are these arsehole politicians going to sit down and STFU?

31 posted on 06/13/2014 10:44:26 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Only Liberals can look at an amendment that says "shall not be infringed" and see blank parchment.)
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To: MichCapCon

So do the fans get refunds as well, for the reduced game time?


32 posted on 06/13/2014 10:45:58 AM PDT by SgtHooper (This is not my tag!)
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To: MichCapCon
that Guse was going to take a knee to run out the clock. But the four players still broke the line and hit Guse,

And....I was in a game where this happened. I was right O tackle. When the defender(s) launched themselves over the line to hit my QB, I picked up the nearest one and threw him back over the offensive line. I got tossed but my teammates never forgot it.

33 posted on 06/13/2014 10:47:25 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Only Liberals can look at an amendment that says "shall not be infringed" and see blank parchment.)
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To: MichCapCon

When my daughter played fast pitch softball they had what was called the mercy rule, if I recall it was if one team was X number of runs over the other in the fourth inning the game was over. Now my grandson plays flag football in the Friday Nights Light league, and at least for the kindergartners, once a team is X points up they have to start their plays an extra five yards back from the line of scrimmage. I guess I can see some adjustments for young children, but it is getting out of hand, especially at the High School level. Kids do need to learn that there is a difference between winning and losing.


34 posted on 06/13/2014 10:51:45 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: SgtHooper

Missouri has a “mercy rule” for high school games. Once a team has a 35 point lead, game is in 2nd half, the clock does not stop except after scores. Called the turbo-clock by fans, it doesn’t stop for penalties, out of bounds, 1st downs, or incomplete passes. Either coach can stop it with a time out.


35 posted on 06/13/2014 10:52:04 AM PDT by phil1750 (Love like you've never been hurt;Dance like nobody's watching;PRAY like it's your last prayer)
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To: MichCapCon

And give a team trophy for the loosing team just for showing up.


36 posted on 06/13/2014 11:02:25 AM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read newspapers you are misinformed)
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To: MichCapCon

How utterly humiliating for the losing team. I guess the winning team could just fumble the ball into the opposing end zone for a touchback for the other team.


37 posted on 06/13/2014 11:31:15 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: phil1750

I understand the concept, as some coaches roll-up the score to incredible numbers. However, this rule then smacks of ensuring some poor child is not traumatized, which is nonsense. Welcome to the real world.


38 posted on 06/13/2014 4:00:28 PM PDT by SgtHooper (This is not my tag!)
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To: MichCapCon

Nice to know that Michigan’s in such good shape that its biggest issue is high school football games.


39 posted on 06/13/2014 6:48:10 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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