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I can't stop thinking about those poor men left dead on the road to Bahgdad. I can't sleep.
6/14/2014 | Nikos1121

Posted on 06/14/2014 1:35:36 AM PDT by nikos1121

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To: nikos1121

We had 3000 martyrs. Hopey Changey trumped them.


141 posted on 06/14/2014 5:49:08 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (Hoaxey Dopey Changey)
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To: Olog-hai

That kind of behavior on the Iraqi military’s part says to me that they are in collusion with the monsters herein referred to.

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It is most interesting that the Iraqi officers slipped off in the night at the same time sleeper old guard officers of Saddam Hussein’s hooked up with ISIS. The scale of this makes one wonder if our present intelligence structure is either clueless or compromised.


142 posted on 06/14/2014 5:53:15 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: SgtHooper

What baffles me is, this should be no surprise to anyone over there. If you know that when captured you will die in a cowardly manner, then fight to the death! Never let yourself be tied up or restrained. Take at least one other of the enemy with you, if possible.

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I think one of the things at work here is a moral ascendancy. Our pitch of a government and culture is not a sell to them. How can one take believing Moslems and make them overnight into Jeffersonian yeoman?

One of the reasons ISIS is ripping through the area like this may be that many of the Sunni feel like sellouts, that the ISIS line is correct.

The sparks will really fly when the Sunnis and Shi’ites mix it up.


143 posted on 06/14/2014 6:01:31 PM PDT by Psalm 144
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To: Justa; nikos1121
I agree, but it wasn’t just Maliki who wanted US troops out of Iraq in 2011? Maliki (Shi’ites), Sunnis and even Kurds

Then these 2011 articles by Washington Times: "The U.S. and Iraq had been in talks about keeping more American troops there beyond 2011, but Iraqi leaders, facing fierce domestic political cross-currents, refused to give U.S. soldiers immunity from prosecution in Iraqi courts. The U.S. refused to allow its soldiers to stay without such a guarantee."

US Troops Immunity Issue-one

US Troops Immunity Issue-two

144 posted on 06/14/2014 6:24:40 PM PDT by odds
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To: TADSLOS

That is a brilliant summary of the past two decades of American involvement in the Middle East.


145 posted on 06/14/2014 7:08:13 PM PDT by Psalm 144
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To: PapaBear3625

“They are not taking action because they WANT ISIS to win. These are the people Obama has been giving arms to in Syria, who have decided that taking over Iraq is easier than winning against Assad.”

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We can’t forget John McCain either. He is neck deep in these malicious destabilization policies as well. He should not get a pass.


146 posted on 06/14/2014 7:33:33 PM PDT by Psalm 144
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To: Psalm 144

Thank you.


147 posted on 06/14/2014 7:47:07 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: odds

There’s an article on the side bar that says Iran kept us from staying. If all this is true then Obama probably is holding a huge grudge against Malaki, and now when the guy comes crawling he’s letting him and his people spin.

Funny how mr hope and change is the most hated man on the planet. Maybe in like ten years he’ll get a feel for the office but for now the guy is a rank amateur.

You’d think as petty as he is, he’d wipe out his adversaries...or at least threaten. He doesn’t understand the walk softly carry a big stick...thingy.


148 posted on 06/15/2014 4:42:33 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: nikos1121

I’ve said it for years on here, this Islamic or Islamist mess in the ME started in Iran in 1978-79. Once Khomeini managed to seize power in Iran, it emboldened other Islamists to follow suit or try to. It is gradually getting worse.


149 posted on 06/15/2014 5:05:22 AM PDT by odds
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To: yldstrk

You’re welcome. You are one of few who may actually understand. You are most welcome.


150 posted on 06/15/2014 5:11:24 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: ArmstedFragg

Yeah probably


151 posted on 06/15/2014 5:25:24 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Progressive is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: odds

I don’t think anyone can argue that. The Shah had the second most prosperous country in the world at the time. Sure they had their problems, but the country flourished with writers, doctors, engineers etc.

THen thanks to that sob Jimmy Carter, he was left alone.

We have the same short sighted pos in the WH now who couldn’t leave a modicum of troops there to keep the peace.


152 posted on 06/15/2014 5:50:14 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

And my dad was a ten year old Belgian in a Nipponese concentration camp for three years. It’s all he and my uncle talk about when they get together


153 posted on 06/15/2014 10:49:49 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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