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IT Professional Gives Reasons Why IRS’ Claim That It ‘Lost’ 2 Years Emails Is ‘Simply Not Feasible’
The Blaze ^ | June 13, 2014 | Jason Howerton

Posted on 06/14/2014 7:51:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

A veteran IT professional tells TheBlaze that the IRS’ claim that the agency lost two years’ worth of former IRS official Lois Lerner’s emails is “simply not feasible.”

On Friday, members of Congress revealed that the IRS would not be able to hand over Lerner’s emails to and from other IRS employees from January 2009 to April 2011, possibly due to a “glitch” or “crash.” Lawmakers were seeking the emails as part of their investigation into the IRS targeting scandal.

Norman Cillo, an Army veteran who worked in intelligence and a former program manager at Microsoft, argued it is very difficult to lose emails for good and laid out six reasons why he believes Congress is “being lied to” about the Lerner emails:

1. I believe the government uses Microsoft Exchange for their email servers. They have built-in exchange mail database redundancy. So, unless they did not follow Microsofts recommendations they are telling a falsehood. You can see by the diagram below that if you have three servers in a DAG you have three copies of the database.

2. Every IT organization that I know of has hot swappable disk drives. Every server built since 2000 has them. Meaning that if a single disk goes bad it’s easy to replace.

3. ALL Servers use some form of RAID technology. The only way that data can be totally lost (Meaning difficult to bring back) is if more than a single disk goes before the first bad disk is replaced....

(Excerpt) Read more at theblaze.com ...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: internalrevenue; internet; loislerner; obama
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1 posted on 06/14/2014 7:51:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

its amazing what DRIVE SAVERS can get off a dead disk....


2 posted on 06/14/2014 7:53:19 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I spent 30 years in the business. Not only is missing emails BS, but I will state for a fact several copies of the emails exist. Look in the right place.


3 posted on 06/14/2014 7:54:23 PM PDT by Wavy_Wally
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

But remember these are the same people that created the Obamacare site


4 posted on 06/14/2014 7:54:33 PM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s only feasible to the liberal leftist 0bama sympathizers...


5 posted on 06/14/2014 7:55:47 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: MeshugeMikey

Her disk drive has nothing to do with it. The emails are in a DB and can be retrieved from backup.


6 posted on 06/14/2014 7:56:11 PM PDT by Wavy_Wally
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s time for the perp walks to begin! Crimes have been committed. Let’s try enforcing a couple of laws around this joint. We’ve been a lawless country long enough.


7 posted on 06/14/2014 7:56:40 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: Wavy_Wally

Thats what I’ve been lead to understand.


8 posted on 06/14/2014 7:58:31 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Also remember most of the members of Congress think a computer is a new form of transport


9 posted on 06/14/2014 7:59:26 PM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

That can’t happen. The executive branch has NSA evidence that is being used as blackmail. Congress won’t do a thing. Supreme Court will not do a thing.


10 posted on 06/14/2014 8:00:45 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Of course they are lying. They are stonewalling and trying to buy time of Lerner.


11 posted on 06/14/2014 8:01:58 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

” if the federal agency is “totally mismanaged and has the worst IT department ever.”

No, that would be far too much of a coincidence, i.e., the worst President ever also has the worst IT department ever, no, I just can’t buy it.


12 posted on 06/14/2014 8:04:01 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Anybody who has ever worked for a large corporation or government agency knows that “emails are forever”. Somewhere every one of them is archived...


13 posted on 06/14/2014 8:12:26 PM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Feasible or PLAUSIBLE???!!!!!!!


14 posted on 06/14/2014 8:12:30 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Wavy_Wally

Thats also why these sleazes have tried to get around the fact by illegally using private email addresses while communicating about government business.


15 posted on 06/14/2014 8:13:58 PM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Former contractor at the IRS. They do use Exchange, and off-site backups are required every week.


16 posted on 06/14/2014 8:16:26 PM PDT by gura (If Allah is so great, why does he need fat sexually confused fanboys to do his dirty work? -iowahawk)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bo ate it


17 posted on 06/14/2014 8:17:07 PM PDT by motor_racer (Who will bell the cat?)
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To: All; gura

There you go!


18 posted on 06/14/2014 8:18:17 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
IRS should be abolished. Using this agency to intimidate and strong arm Americans is unbelievable.

The IRS was used to alter an American election, now obstruction of justice. Where in sam hell are our leaders?

Insane, just insane.

19 posted on 06/14/2014 8:18:54 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, if it is Microsoft just glean it from Boydton, VA and be done with it.


20 posted on 06/14/2014 8:19:42 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?s)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is a JOKE.
So what now?


21 posted on 06/14/2014 8:19:53 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: mowowie

Edit:
This is a JOKE and I am now completely ASHAMED for my country.


22 posted on 06/14/2014 8:21:07 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: Wavy_Wally
I'd wager good money that the people/organizations who RECEIVED any e-mail correspondence from the IRS regarding tax-exempt status have PLENTY of evidence.

Shall we re-trace THOSE and where they exactly originated?

My guess is that the conservative organizations have PLENTY of damning evidence.

This isn't 1959 any more, when everything was done by mail, or a knock on the door.

We're now in the realm of a true cover-up, and serious felonies.

For EVERYONE who is involved.

Make no mistake, all roads lead to the WH.

23 posted on 06/14/2014 8:21:56 PM PDT by boop (I just wanted a President. But I got a rock.)
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To: mowowie

Exactly. The point is not the incredulity of the statement, its who is going to be held in contempt of Congress for even advancing it.


24 posted on 06/14/2014 8:22:41 PM PDT by sgtyork (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy)
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To: ladyjane

“Questions for the NSA.”

Whatever the IRS “loses” is stored, FOREVER, in the files of the NSA.

After all, the NSA has searchable recordings of all emails by EVERYBODY, so that NOTHING can ever be “lost.”

A simple Freedom of Information request by Judicial Watch is all that is needed.


25 posted on 06/14/2014 8:23:38 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: servantboy777

IRS committed ELECTION FRAUD under the direction of the OBAMA administration.


26 posted on 06/14/2014 8:23:52 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Those emails must be really damning — and I’m sure they are damned real too.


27 posted on 06/14/2014 8:24:50 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: molson209

Not really, the Obama care site was given to a college colleague of Michelle to build. The IRS internet system has been built over many many administrations with the idea to squeeze all that they can out of tax payers. I suspect the IRS site is much much better than the Obama care site.


28 posted on 06/14/2014 8:24:58 PM PDT by JLS
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bookmark


29 posted on 06/14/2014 8:29:25 PM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Obstruction of justice is a crime.

Time for Lois to plan on a new wardrobe.


30 posted on 06/14/2014 8:33:29 PM PDT by garjog (Obama: bringing joy to the hearts of Terrorists everywhere.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I can’t imagine the GOP doesn’t know they’re dealing with a crime syndicate.


31 posted on 06/14/2014 8:35:37 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Total nonsense.

The very notion that the IRS of all agencies would never do backups (daily, weekly, monthly, offsite, and archives), would not have a disaster recovery/business continuity plan that MANDATED full restoration of their data environment, would not have their mail servers clustered, and would not have redundant clusters, is laughable. Not only that, but as others here note, those emails aren’t just in Lerner’s Outbox. They’re also in the Inboxes of all the people she sent them to.


32 posted on 06/14/2014 8:40:37 PM PDT by Little Pig
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To: molson209

Also remember most of the members of Congress think a computer is a new form of transport
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I would be very surprised if there was a SINGLE member of Congress who actually believes this latest lie by the IRS criminals. Of course, a good number of DemocRATS will say they believe it, even though all but the most stupid (e.g., Maxine Waters) also know it’s certainly a lie.


33 posted on 06/14/2014 8:43:04 PM PDT by House Atreides (ELL)
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To: Little Pig

The ONLY plausible explanation if they are indeed “lost” is an orchestrated, high-level conspiracy. Flunkies in IT are not going to have the passwords to do this, it would take Big Shots - high level managers, probably off-site. So, this is not a super-duper high-tech, tin-foil hat alien spaceship type conspiracy, but the old-fashioned kind of gritty, dirty conspiracy that drug dealers and Mafia members participate in. You know, the kind that went on in the Nixon White House

BEFORE HE WAS THREATENED WITH IMPEACHMENT AND RESIGNED SOON AFTER.

So, WHO in the Democratic party is statesman or stateswoman enough to take the “long walk” to the White House????


34 posted on 06/14/2014 8:54:14 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: The Antiyuppie

Actually, there would be plenty of IT “flunkies” who would have the passwords for this. Anyone with Domain Admin privileges would be able to; any of the Exchange Server admins would be able to kill the databases that held the emails (and most email users, even paranoid government employees) usually keep all their emails in their mailbox. Likewise, any of the engineers who managed the backups could purge the backups of the mail store where Lerner’s emails were held. And any of the storage admins could take down the LUN where the mail store lived.

However, short of a catastrophic chain of disasters that would have set off all kinds of monitoring alarms and been a major incident, it wouldn’t all disappear. It would take deliberate action to comprehensively eliminate all instances of those emails.

The alternative, that these emails really are missing because of a “crash”, would imply that the IRS doesn’t even take the simplest of precautions, and is somehow operating their email system like a small business from the mid-1990s i.e. a single, nonredundant server that keeps the mail store on a single internal disk, with no backups. And this would be malfeasance of the highest order; a flouting of volumes of regulations on the operation of a government server environment, and would very likely carry at least as severe a penalty as the one the IRS and Lerner face for using the IRS to target groups based on political persuasion.


35 posted on 06/14/2014 9:10:04 PM PDT by Little Pig
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To: Wavy_Wally

Same here - 16 years. The whole ‘missing’ angle is horse squeeze.


36 posted on 06/14/2014 9:13:47 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Liberals - destroyers of both men and civilizations. The Fourth Turning Cometh.)
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To: demshateGod
'I can’t imagine the GOP doesn’t know they’re dealing with a crime syndicate.'

Know about it? Hell's Bells, the bulk of them are part of it!!!!!!

37 posted on 06/14/2014 9:16:03 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Liberals - destroyers of both men and civilizations. The Fourth Turning Cometh.)
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To: Little Pig

I agree that the local copies could be wiped out, and in a well-run company, a very small number of trusted employees have that privilege. But even those people don’t have access to (and might not even KNOW, for security reasons) where or how the off-site backups are kept. Hence, the certainty of a conspiracy.


38 posted on 06/14/2014 9:17:04 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Yep. Just buying time.

Waiting for the football season to hypnotize everyone, and then throw in some international crisis to help distract.


39 posted on 06/14/2014 9:18:04 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: MeshugeMikey

We don’t need no stinkin disksssess


40 posted on 06/14/2014 9:23:31 PM PDT by glyptol
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And, not to repeat myself but

WHERE ARE THE SERVER BACKUPS!!


41 posted on 06/14/2014 9:25:31 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: molson209
Also remember most of the members of Congress think a computer is a new form of transport

LOL!

42 posted on 06/14/2014 9:26:26 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

This BS is neither feasible or plausible. There is no way that the emails are not backed up or mirrored on multiple servers. Government IT is frequently screwed up but the basics are always there for the big operations like the IRS. It also would not be just her emails lost.

Like all democrats and all of this administration they are lying sacks-o-shit.


43 posted on 06/14/2014 9:30:15 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: demshateGod

The GOP was complicit in the IRS’ assault on the Tea Party!


44 posted on 06/14/2014 9:30:30 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is a CRIME! Where the hell is Boehner to grind the House to a halt and declare war against the IRS and force criminal indictments?


45 posted on 06/14/2014 9:31:27 PM PDT by AuditTheFed
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To: AuditTheFed

He’s googling the meaning of oath.


46 posted on 06/14/2014 9:33:28 PM PDT by glyptol
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To: eyedigress

What is in Boydton VA?


47 posted on 06/14/2014 9:33:38 PM PDT by kalee
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To: kalee

Microsoft “Cloud”

http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-to-build-massive-virginia-data-center/


48 posted on 06/14/2014 9:35:03 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?s)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The IRS public relations dept. reminds me of the pet store owner trying to convince the parrot owner that the bird is not really dead, just resting, or the Emerald City guard telling Dorothy & friends that the Wizard just ain’t in:
“We’ve lost it, so sorry, go away, it’s missing, gone actually, try again later. We’re closed, too bad. Goodbye.”


49 posted on 06/14/2014 9:35:50 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: kalee

Don’t even get me started on T5. Come on people. Google is your friend, sometimes.


50 posted on 06/14/2014 9:38:10 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?s)
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