Skip to comments.IT Professional Gives Reasons Why IRS’ Claim That It ‘Lost’ 2 Years Emails Is ‘Simply Not Feasible’
Posted on 06/14/2014 7:51:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
A veteran IT professional tells TheBlaze that the IRS claim that the agency lost two years worth of former IRS official Lois Lerners emails is simply not feasible.
On Friday, members of Congress revealed that the IRS would not be able to hand over Lerners emails to and from other IRS employees from January 2009 to April 2011, possibly due to a glitch or crash. Lawmakers were seeking the emails as part of their investigation into the IRS targeting scandal.
Norman Cillo, an Army veteran who worked in intelligence and a former program manager at Microsoft, argued it is very difficult to lose emails for good and laid out six reasons why he believes Congress is being lied to about the Lerner emails:
1. I believe the government uses Microsoft Exchange for their email servers. They have built-in exchange mail database redundancy. So, unless they did not follow Microsofts recommendations they are telling a falsehood. You can see by the diagram below that if you have three servers in a DAG you have three copies of the database.
2. Every IT organization that I know of has hot swappable disk drives. Every server built since 2000 has them. Meaning that if a single disk goes bad its easy to replace.
3. ALL Servers use some form of RAID technology. The only way that data can be totally lost (Meaning difficult to bring back) is if more than a single disk goes before the first bad disk is replaced....
(Excerpt) Read more at theblaze.com ...
its amazing what DRIVE SAVERS can get off a dead disk....
I spent 30 years in the business. Not only is missing emails BS, but I will state for a fact several copies of the emails exist. Look in the right place.
But remember these are the same people that created the Obamacare site
It’s only feasible to the liberal leftist 0bama sympathizers...
Her disk drive has nothing to do with it. The emails are in a DB and can be retrieved from backup.
It’s time for the perp walks to begin! Crimes have been committed. Let’s try enforcing a couple of laws around this joint. We’ve been a lawless country long enough.
Thats what I’ve been lead to understand.
Also remember most of the members of Congress think a computer is a new form of transport
That can’t happen. The executive branch has NSA evidence that is being used as blackmail. Congress won’t do a thing. Supreme Court will not do a thing.
Of course they are lying. They are stonewalling and trying to buy time of Lerner.
” if the federal agency is totally mismanaged and has the worst IT department ever.
No, that would be far too much of a coincidence, i.e., the worst President ever also has the worst IT department ever, no, I just can’t buy it.
Anybody who has ever worked for a large corporation or government agency knows that “emails are forever”. Somewhere every one of them is archived...
Feasible or PLAUSIBLE???!!!!!!!
Thats also why these sleazes have tried to get around the fact by illegally using private email addresses while communicating about government business.
Former contractor at the IRS. They do use Exchange, and off-site backups are required every week.
Bo ate it
There you go!
The IRS was used to alter an American election, now obstruction of justice. Where in sam hell are our leaders?
Insane, just insane.
Well, if it is Microsoft just glean it from Boydton, VA and be done with it.
This is a JOKE.
So what now?
This is a JOKE and I am now completely ASHAMED for my country.
Shall we re-trace THOSE and where they exactly originated?
My guess is that the conservative organizations have PLENTY of damning evidence.
This isn't 1959 any more, when everything was done by mail, or a knock on the door.
We're now in the realm of a true cover-up, and serious felonies.
For EVERYONE who is involved.
Make no mistake, all roads lead to the WH.
Exactly. The point is not the incredulity of the statement, its who is going to be held in contempt of Congress for even advancing it.
Questions for the NSA.
Whatever the IRS loses is stored, FOREVER, in the files of the NSA.
After all, the NSA has searchable recordings of all emails by EVERYBODY, so that NOTHING can ever be lost.
A simple Freedom of Information request by Judicial Watch is all that is needed.
IRS committed ELECTION FRAUD under the direction of the OBAMA administration.
Those emails must be really damning — and I’m sure they are damned real too.
Not really, the Obama care site was given to a college colleague of Michelle to build. The IRS internet system has been built over many many administrations with the idea to squeeze all that they can out of tax payers. I suspect the IRS site is much much better than the Obama care site.
Time for Lois to plan on a new wardrobe.
I can’t imagine the GOP doesn’t know they’re dealing with a crime syndicate.
The very notion that the IRS of all agencies would never do backups (daily, weekly, monthly, offsite, and archives), would not have a disaster recovery/business continuity plan that MANDATED full restoration of their data environment, would not have their mail servers clustered, and would not have redundant clusters, is laughable. Not only that, but as others here note, those emails aren’t just in Lerner’s Outbox. They’re also in the Inboxes of all the people she sent them to.
Also remember most of the members of Congress think a computer is a new form of transport
I would be very surprised if there was a SINGLE member of Congress who actually believes this latest lie by the IRS criminals. Of course, a good number of DemocRATS will say they believe it, even though all but the most stupid (e.g., Maxine Waters) also know it’s certainly a lie.
The ONLY plausible explanation if they are indeed “lost” is an orchestrated, high-level conspiracy. Flunkies in IT are not going to have the passwords to do this, it would take Big Shots - high level managers, probably off-site. So, this is not a super-duper high-tech, tin-foil hat alien spaceship type conspiracy, but the old-fashioned kind of gritty, dirty conspiracy that drug dealers and Mafia members participate in. You know, the kind that went on in the Nixon White House
BEFORE HE WAS THREATENED WITH IMPEACHMENT AND RESIGNED SOON AFTER.
So, WHO in the Democratic party is statesman or stateswoman enough to take the “long walk” to the White House????
Actually, there would be plenty of IT “flunkies” who would have the passwords for this. Anyone with Domain Admin privileges would be able to; any of the Exchange Server admins would be able to kill the databases that held the emails (and most email users, even paranoid government employees) usually keep all their emails in their mailbox. Likewise, any of the engineers who managed the backups could purge the backups of the mail store where Lerner’s emails were held. And any of the storage admins could take down the LUN where the mail store lived.
However, short of a catastrophic chain of disasters that would have set off all kinds of monitoring alarms and been a major incident, it wouldn’t all disappear. It would take deliberate action to comprehensively eliminate all instances of those emails.
The alternative, that these emails really are missing because of a “crash”, would imply that the IRS doesn’t even take the simplest of precautions, and is somehow operating their email system like a small business from the mid-1990s i.e. a single, nonredundant server that keeps the mail store on a single internal disk, with no backups. And this would be malfeasance of the highest order; a flouting of volumes of regulations on the operation of a government server environment, and would very likely carry at least as severe a penalty as the one the IRS and Lerner face for using the IRS to target groups based on political persuasion.
Same here - 16 years. The whole ‘missing’ angle is horse squeeze.
Know about it? Hell's Bells, the bulk of them are part of it!!!!!!
I agree that the local copies could be wiped out, and in a well-run company, a very small number of trusted employees have that privilege. But even those people don’t have access to (and might not even KNOW, for security reasons) where or how the off-site backups are kept. Hence, the certainty of a conspiracy.
Yep. Just buying time.
Waiting for the football season to hypnotize everyone, and then throw in some international crisis to help distract.
We don’t need no stinkin disksssess
And, not to repeat myself but
WHERE ARE THE SERVER BACKUPS!!
This BS is neither feasible or plausible. There is no way that the emails are not backed up or mirrored on multiple servers. Government IT is frequently screwed up but the basics are always there for the big operations like the IRS. It also would not be just her emails lost.
Like all democrats and all of this administration they are lying sacks-o-shit.
The GOP was complicit in the IRS’ assault on the Tea Party!
This is a CRIME! Where the hell is Boehner to grind the House to a halt and declare war against the IRS and force criminal indictments?
He’s googling the meaning of oath.
What is in Boydton VA?
The IRS public relations dept. reminds me of the pet store owner trying to convince the parrot owner that the bird is not really dead, just resting, or the Emerald City guard telling Dorothy & friends that the Wizard just ain’t in:
“We’ve lost it, so sorry, go away, it’s missing, gone actually, try again later. We’re closed, too bad. Goodbye.”
Don’t even get me started on T5. Come on people. Google is your friend, sometimes.
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