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Why Conservatives Might Be Left Out of the Next Wave of Tech
The Atlantic ^ | June 17, 2014 | Alexis C. Madrigal

Posted on 06/17/2014 7:00:15 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Only 4 percent of consistently conservative Americans want to live in cities, but urban environments are where the tech action is.

It's one of those stats that just smacks you across the face: In a recent Pew poll, only four percent—4%!—of consistent conservatives want to live in America's cities.

Meanwhile, about a quarter of people with mixed political views want to live in cities more than they want to live in small towns, suburbs, or rural areas. And nearly 46 percent of consistently liberal people want to live in cities.

For someone who writes about technology, this is particularly significant. It's not just that the latest round of hot companies are deciding to headquarter in cities like New York and San Francisco; it's also that many of these companies make sense, for the most part, only in urban environments.

All the startups clumped under the heading Uber for X—of which there are dozens—require high concentrations of people (i.e., cities). Take companies like Airbnb, which works best with a lot of listings in a given area, or Yelp, which declines in utility as fewer people contribute reviews. But take, as well, the range of other technologies that make the most sense within dense agglomerations of people. The most prominent example is autonomous vehicles, which require detailed, expensive, and regularly updated maps to operate. For that reason, those vehicles will almost certainly deploy in cities first, and maybe only in places where enough people drive to make the investment in mapping the area worth it....

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Politics; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: conservatives; economy; hightech; internet; siliconvalley

1 posted on 06/17/2014 7:00:15 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It amazes me that the liberals came up with a GOTV model that got every drunk, senile pensioner and welfare queen to the polls, but then they couldn’t do the Obamacare site.


2 posted on 06/17/2014 7:01:37 AM PDT by Fido969 (What's sad is most)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not here that I can tell.


3 posted on 06/17/2014 7:04:47 AM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe because when the SHTF we cons know all the “tech” in the world won’t matter???


4 posted on 06/17/2014 7:13:06 AM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ho hum.

Yet more shallow, self-glorifying drivel.

It was reported that, this week, Obama is playing golf on courses located on the private estates of internet billionaires, which are located -— where?

In the back yards of town-houses in urban areas?

Noooooo....

In “the country”. Think “Rancho Mirage”.

I wonder, who pays the idiots who write this dreck?


5 posted on 06/17/2014 7:14:38 AM PDT by pfony1 (Add just 6 GOP Senators and we "bury" Harry)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Out here in the sticks at least we know how to back up our files...


6 posted on 06/17/2014 7:15:25 AM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think that conservatives know that e-mails can never be lost just due to a hard drive crash. :)


7 posted on 06/17/2014 7:15:50 AM PDT by defconw (LUTFA!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When the financial markets inevitably start to puke up the 40% fake money created every day to pay the entitlement army, cities are gonna become quite sh!tty.


8 posted on 06/17/2014 7:16:47 AM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

plenty of people commute. there’s no reason, whatsoever, requiring anyone to live in the city

meanwhile, the truth is... if there are leftists in the company and they identify you as right leaning, they will do what they can to either get you out or trip you up.

you’re at war, whether or not you know it


9 posted on 06/17/2014 7:21:41 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m so upset! Not.


10 posted on 06/17/2014 7:21:45 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“but urban environments are where the tech action is.”

Yeah, just look at how modern, tech savvy, and innovative Chicago and Detroit are!


11 posted on 06/17/2014 7:24:42 AM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Only to a liberal is the city the limit of civilization. Millions of conservatives live outside the cities and work in tech that is not in a city. Most of the tech in the Denver area is not in Denver. It is north, west and south of Denver. Even Loveland and Longmont, many miles north of Denver, have more tech than Denver has.


12 posted on 06/17/2014 7:25:19 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What a load. In my 35 years in the IT business the overwhelming majority are not libs. They live in the burbs or the sticks and commute or telecommute.


13 posted on 06/17/2014 7:39:34 AM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wah!


14 posted on 06/17/2014 7:42:34 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“All the startups clumped under the heading Uber for X—of which there are dozens—require high concentrations of people (i.e., cities).”

This current batch of startups is hardly worth getting excited over, in terms of what they are adding to the economy. A little bit of savings to the consumer by streamlining the market is not a huge deal, but when you have nothing else to get excited about, and you are a tech writer, you hype it anyway.


15 posted on 06/17/2014 7:47:56 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Live by technology, die by technology!


16 posted on 06/17/2014 7:53:02 AM PDT by Lockbox
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Point the First: somebody has to make it work. You do that with an electrical engineering degree, not one in Art History.

Point the Second: without us Morlocks the whole system turns into useless oblong plastic and silicon paperweights. And we really don't have to work in the city anymore.

Point the Third: technologies that depend on population density will gravitate to where the people are. Those that don't will be ignored by urbanites convinced that they're the only smart people around. That doesn't mean they won't exist.

Point the Fourth: They do. GPS, for one. Who needs it more, a city dweller with an electronic sign that points her to the nearest Starbuck's three blocks away, or some guy trying to find a friend's house in the dark countryside? Who needs a portable water purification filter or a portable generator more? (We won't go into what happens when that really does become a city dweller because this is an Internet posting, not postapocalyptic fiction).

The urban/suburban/rural political continuum has been known for decades. It maps well to a preference for collective over individual activity in the city, hence the liberal tilt. It does not map well to technology adaption except for that which is already self-selected by virtue of a dependence on population density. The author's argument in that respect is circular.

There's more of a market where there are more potential buyers, that's about all this really says. But not necessarily more profit depending on the nature of that technology. And it's all about ROI.

17 posted on 06/17/2014 7:55:28 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: CodeToad
Only to a liberal is the city the limit of civilization.

It's all in how you look at it. The city limits are a definite line--for a liberal the civilization is within and ends at the city limits going out.

For many more rural Conservatives, civilization ends at the city limits, if you are going in...

18 posted on 06/17/2014 8:17:11 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The most prominent example is autonomous vehicles, which require detailed, expensive, and regularly updated maps to operate.

Wishful thinking. Actually autonomous vehicles enable people to tolerate longer commutes and spread out. That is good for Republicans. An autonomous car needs only a minimal map because it must sense the present environment. Invest in real estate where autonomous technology will soon increase demand.

City slickers mainly produce intangible intellectual property. Most manufacturers are a located in the suburbs and beyond. Cities are too expensive and restrictive to operate in.

Cities are were most bad news comes from. They are where most terrorism takes place and most disease is spread. Russia and China have nukes ready to go that are programmed with the coordinates of every major Democrat hive.

Competent engineers tend to be conservatives, not promiscuous city slickers that can't do math. City slickers can handle the creative arts, like writing lame articles, but technology generally requires conservative engineers.

19 posted on 06/17/2014 8:26:59 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: RedMDer

What a load. In my 35 years in the IT business the overwhelming majority are not libs. They live in the burbs or the sticks and commute or telecommute.


And the more sophisticated the technology becomes, the more effective telecommuting becomes. And more will do it. Tech is already destroying the need for cities.


20 posted on 06/17/2014 8:27:14 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: cuban leaf
Tech is already destroying the need for cities.

If it wasn't for the millions of foreigners being imported from third world countries, U.S. cities would be draining out. At some point the well of cheap imports dries up. Peak People occurs around the year 2055.

21 posted on 06/17/2014 8:43:02 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: Reeses

“I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health and the liberties of man. True, they nourish some of the elegant arts; but the useful ones can thrive elsewhere; and less perfection in the others, with more health, virtue and freedom, would be my choice.”
Thomas Jefferson


22 posted on 06/17/2014 8:45:49 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: bigbob

Ouch! Good one.


23 posted on 06/17/2014 8:52:20 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: Smokin' Joe

Liberals are like little children with very small comfort zones. They fear the unknown and anything outside of the city is unknown to them.


24 posted on 06/17/2014 9:10:22 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Libs tend to like cities. makes sense. libs have a herd mentality. they find safety in numbers, just like sheep do.

cities also have a higher rate of mental illness, which makes one wonder: do cities cause mental illness or are the libs who inhabit the cities just mentally ill by nature?


25 posted on 06/17/2014 9:12:18 AM PDT by Vision Thing (obama wants his suicidal worshipers to become suicidal bombers.)
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To: nascarnation

Very true. I’d rather be closer to the food supply than tech. Cat.6 cable, iPhones etc not being very edible ...

I told a Lib city dweller (and big Agenda 21 proponant) friend of the unpleasant fact that at any given time he and the 3-4 million people he likes living within a few miles of are within three days/nine meals from starting to starve. The level of denial/belief that the Government will (can!) save him was frightning ...


26 posted on 06/17/2014 9:31:43 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: tanknetter

One other observation.

When it becomes a LOT OF WORK to keep warm in the winter, a lot of the entitlement army is gonna migrate south.


27 posted on 06/17/2014 9:35:36 AM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"hot companies?.....lol

so it gets down to this now....all the cool people live in the big cities (behind locked doors with door to door cab service) and all of us square people live in the suburbs or small towns or rural areas....

just like grade school.....we're just not cool enough for the perfect people.....

28 posted on 06/18/2014 10:50:28 AM PDT by cherry
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