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TX: Twelve-year-old Boy Ignites .22 Cartridge with Cigarette Lighter
Gun Watch ^ | 19 June, 2014 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 06/20/2014 4:39:11 AM PDT by marktwain


In the story out of Texas, the boy's mother drives him to the hospital.  The deputy interviewing the young man found out how he was injured.  From thevindicator.com:

Deputy Hobson stated that upon interviewing the young man as to how he got injured from the bullet, the young boy told Dep. Hobson that he had held a cigarette lighter under a .22 caliber bullet to see what would happen. The bullet exploded sending bullet fragments through his left middle finger and lodging in the left eye lid.
There are a couple of lessons here.   The first is not to try to set off cartridges outside of a firearm in close proximity to your flesh.   A .22 does not have a lot of gunpowder in it, but it is enough to cause minor injuries if it is in contact with flesh when it goes off.  If you are more than five feet away from it when it happens, presuming that it is not contained in the chamber of a firearm, your risk is minimal.   Surprisingly, the tiny .22 rimfire seems to entail a bit more risk than centerfire cartridges.   The case is very thin and light, and is more likely to rupture or develop enough velocity to be dangerous. 

While we do not know exactly what happened, a .22 case and bullet, being made of metal, transmit heat very effectively.  I suspect that the boy was using something to hold the cartridge to avoid being burned.  Even a pair of pliers or a a few wraps of tape might have been enough to provide some support for the case and make the resulting ignition more dangerous.  I have heard of people who put the .22 cartridge in a vice and hit the base with a hammer.  That is a dangerous procedure.

In another article on fires and ammunition, a source on an Internet forum reported that he had experience of a fragment that barely punctured the skin at a range of less than five feet from a .22 rimfire case that was ignited in a fire.  He concluded that any other cases were too sturdy to fragment.  Here is a Link to the SAAMI paper, "Facts About Sporting Ammunition Fires".

40 or more years ago a fellow told me he touched a match to some homemade gunpowder to see if it would go off.   He lost his eyebrows and burned his hand a bit, but suffered no permanent injury.    Young males are adventurous, curious, and willing to take risks.   We can guide them and attempt to channel that energy; but suppressing it can result in more harm than good.  An amusing web site could result from the theme: Silly risks I took as a boy/young man.

As the "fragment" in question (almost certainly from the case and not the bullet) lodged in the boy's eyelid, it seems likely that the eye itself is not at risk.

Eyes are the most vulnerable parts of the body to these sorts of projectiles, which is why wearing safety/shooting glasses of some kind has become a regular part of most shooters' gear.  

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To: marktwain

“You know, you put a bullet in the furnace, that reflects on your parents...”


21 posted on 06/20/2014 5:30:43 AM PDT by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: Gaffer

“Bet you can’t do that again...dumbass!”
22 posted on 06/20/2014 5:32:12 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: marktwain

Flash powder, black powder, smokeless powder, match heads, potassium nitrate, all sold at hobby stores or grocery stores back in the day. And thermite components.

It is a wonder there aren’t bunches of one armed, one eyed 60 something men around these days.


23 posted on 06/20/2014 5:33:26 AM PDT by wrench
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To: marktwain

I’ll confess I did some stupid things in my youth. But dude that was like 40 years ago. :)


24 posted on 06/20/2014 5:38:51 AM PDT by McGruff (What if we bombed our own citizens?)
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To: marktwain

When I was 5, I tried to set one off by throwing it on the sidewalk - even at that age I knew enough to try to hide behind a tree in case it went off....Thankfully it didn’t go off after two throws so I tossed it in a sewer.


25 posted on 06/20/2014 5:38:53 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: marktwain

The following 10 items come from a coworker of my dad who works in the lab for a major AG CHEM Corporation.

(1) Burning down a snowman with calcium carbide. The carbide granules react with the water in the snow to release acetylene gas. Ignite it – and watch Frosty go up in flames! This one brought tears to the eyes of the children that created him.
(2) React aluminum foil with muriatic acid. Violent reaction that liberates hydrogen gas (which you can collect in a balloon and ignite) along with hydrogen chloride – an extremely irritating gas. Do this in a closed area and people flee!
(3) Generating hydrogen sulfide in a movie theater. Do this by heating iron fillings with sulfur. Collect the resulting iron sulfide granules and simply add dilute acid to them. Rxn produces the putrid smell of rotten eggs. We actually emptied a movie theater doing this one. Make sure that it is a movie that you don’t like.
(4) Of course – homemade pipe bombs based on sodium chlorate (which we could buy as a weed killer) and sugar. Cheap – powerful explosive, but very dangerous mixture. It is a wonder that I made it through that phase. We blew up everything from incinerators to Barbie dolls. With some of the explosions you could even feel the concussion! We actually created craters with some of the larger devices.
(5) Home-made thermite. A mixture of ferric oxide and powdered aluminum. Tough to ignite – but get it going and the reaction actually produces molten iron with sparks! The pentagon use to drop thermite bombs on the VC. It was cool to duplicate one of the governments tools of destruction!
(6) Fun with stench. Butyric acid is a constituent of vomit that provides the smell. In vomit it is present at levels less than .5%. Imagine what happens if you disperse some of the 100% stuff in a place frequented by people! This is the same compound that some of the radical anti-abortionists where throwing into abortion clinics back in the 80’s. Do this in an enclosed area and you make said area uninhabitable for people.
(7) Nitrogen Triiodide. Make this by pouring concentrated ammonia over iodine crystals. The result is an extremely sensitive explosive compound that makes lots of noise – minus the power. Spread the mixture over a floor and watch what happens when people step on the small particles they cannot see. Even more fun is to spread some around (non-explosive when liquid) on a side walk or garage floor. Let it dry – then introduce the family dog or cat. They go berserk when their paws detonate the crystals. Doesn’t physically hurt them – but the noise makes them psychotic!
(8) Aceylene gas explosions. Take calcium carbide and place in a 2 liter soda container. Add water – then stretch one of those giant balloons over the mouth of the bottle. The balloon fills with acetylene gas. Once full – STAND WAY BACK AND TROW A MATCH. The resulting flash (not so much an explosion) will turn night into day. People freak and dogs begin to bark. We did this one night while camping out in a field behind the subdivision. People thought a plane had crashed. They sent the cops – but we vanished into the night
(9) Molotov Cocktails – not the stupid gasoline in the bottle stuff that moronic hippies do – but the original one. A real Molotov cocktail is made by filling a wine bottle with gasoline then slowly adding concentrated sulfuric acid (no reaction) and tightly sealing the bottle. Then – you wrap the bottle in a rag and secure with duct tape. Soak the rag with potassium or sodium chlorate solution. Now you have the real thing! No need to light with a rage like some idiot. Simply throw it at your target. When the bottle breaks – the concentrated sulfuric acid reacts with chlorate creating an instant spark. This in turn ignites the gasoline which spews flames and concentrated acid all over your target. Rock and roll!
(10) Flash powder that is ignited by water. Mix ammonium nitrate, ammonium chloride, and zinc dust. Simply add a few drops of water and you will get a brilliant flash and fire. Even today – chemists have not been able to explain why this reaction occurs. We used it to start campfires. Simply spread the powder over the wood and add water – bingo a fire! IF you really want to freak people out – stand back and pee on it and a fire will start. Those lacking knowledge of what is happening freak out! Some may even start worshiping you. I did this once at Scout camp and from that point forward I enjoyed respect from the many Red necks that I had to mingle with (all much bigger than me).

It is a wonder me and my fellow vandals and alchemists survived all of this . It pretty much ended by age 16 – the pursuit of Estrogen and fast cars took over by then. I did have some close calls and one trip to the emergency room doing (10). But – I did make it because the Gods needed me to work on Proprietary Products!

JRR


26 posted on 06/20/2014 5:41:20 AM PDT by Married with Children
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To: marktwain

Future Darwin Award recipient?


27 posted on 06/20/2014 5:52:40 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: marktwain
What's so unusual about that?
28 posted on 06/20/2014 5:54:31 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: marktwain

I actually succeeded in making gun-cotton (smokeless powder or cellulose trinitrate) by soaking tampons in a mixture of concentrated nitric and sulfuric acids. Once the nitration was complete, I neutralized the acids with dilute NaOH, then washed the pulp thoroughly.

The next step would have been to leave the gelatinous mass out to air dry, but I was impatient and decided to dry it using heat ... from a Bunsen burner.

Let’s just say that the drying step was also the proving step, and that all my hard work — and much of my forearm hair — vanished in a flash.


29 posted on 06/20/2014 5:58:40 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: marktwain

Gee, hasn’t everyone done dumb things with .22 cartridges?

For me, fortunately my attempts at making a zip gun for them failed!


30 posted on 06/20/2014 5:59:01 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: marktwain
In my youth I made fire crackers using .22 rounds. You need to exercise the same caution you would with a factory made fire cracker.

Getting close enough to use a lighter on it suggests a mutated absence of a self-preservation gene.

31 posted on 06/20/2014 6:02:58 AM PDT by stevem
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To: marktwain

I did constant homemade gunpowder experiments, none of which resulted in a useable product. Hint: mix by weight, not volume, and use real lump charcoal, not the Kingsford bricketts.


32 posted on 06/20/2014 6:09:34 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: envisio

1) because it was a kid in ER, injured.

2) can we blame/arrest the parent for this?

3) can we involve CPS in this and remove the kid from the home.

4) ammo and/or firearm involved in anyway?

The above are not in a specific order.

There is a LEO of some brand on duty at ALL ER’s 24/7/365


33 posted on 06/20/2014 6:10:37 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!! Once again dingy hairball, STFU!!! You corrupt POS!!!)
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To: Hot Tabasco
In another one they shot various firearms into a pool showing how far the rounds would typically penetrate into the water.....

What was the result? How far will bullets penetrate into water?

34 posted on 06/20/2014 6:12:29 AM PDT by Mark17 (Rudyard Kipling: Liberals be wary, when the SHTF, The Wrath of the Awakened Saxon will clobber you)
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To: muir_redwoods

For me it was match heads stuffed into an empty CO2 cartridge, ignited and then dropped into a 2 foot length of galvanized pipe stuck in the ground. Those projectiles went quite aways. Looking back I’m amazed I lived through it.

But damn it was FUN!


35 posted on 06/20/2014 6:13:13 AM PDT by Comment Not Approved (When bureaucrats outlaw hunting, outlaws will hunt bureaucrats.)
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To: Truth29

‘Keep away from children’ may be on there . .


36 posted on 06/20/2014 6:18:05 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: Gaffer

Your appropriate level of sympathy for him reminds me of how I treated my older dog about seven years ago. He’d spent too much time harassing the cat and one day turned up with a 3/4” long and 1/8” deep gash in his nose. I said, “Well, Ulysses, looks like you’ve just learned your kitty manners.” He did and never bothered the cat that way again. Seems your son got the same kind of lesson. Getting burned that way and getting no sympathy, while not being punished beyond the basic nasty experience, is a great way for dogs and kids to learn about the world. That’s why there’s no way I’ll declaw a cat that’s going to be living with big dogs. It’s bad for the dogs and the cat.


37 posted on 06/20/2014 6:18:38 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: Married with Children

You and my son are obviously from the same genetic pool. I still have a blue sink from some combination he came up with. I repaired the smoked ceiling.

Girls, were almost a relief.


38 posted on 06/20/2014 6:25:08 AM PDT by Roses0508
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To: libstripper

It was hard making my son think very hard about what he’d done. After he said “no”, I gave him a close hug and gave him to momma for the big boo-boo kiss cure.


39 posted on 06/20/2014 6:26:01 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Don Corleone; Married with Children

“Future Darwin Award recipient?”

Or extremely productive member of society!

See Married with Children’s post.


40 posted on 06/20/2014 6:34:59 AM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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