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Here is why all of Lois Learner's email in the 1st half of 2011 should be available...
Bluegrass Pundit ^ | 06/22/14 | Bluegrass Pundit

Posted on 06/22/2014 2:54:04 PM PDT by Askwhy5times

The IRS claims they can recover Lois Lerner's email from 2011 and earlier because Lerner's hard drive crashed and they only backed up for 6 months and then reused the data tapes. That seems to be a stupid explanation, but for the sake of this discussion, let's stretch credibility and assume the IRS and Lerner are completely truthful.

The IRS claims they only have 6 months of email back up at anytime. 
Prior to the eruption of the IRS controversy last spring, the IRS had a policy of backing up the data on its email server (which runs Microsoft Outlook) every day. It kept a backup of the records for six months on digital tape, according to a letter sent from the IRS to Sens. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) and Orrin Hatch (R-Utah). After six months, the IRS would reuse those tapes for newer backups. So when Congressional committees began requesting emails from the agency, its records only went back to late 2012. 

Here is the IRS story about what happened to Lerner's email:
The IRS has described the missing e-mails as dating from 2009 to mid-2011. At that point, the agency says its computer system had a strict limit for the e-mail capacity of each employee’s account. If a worker went above that capacity, they had to either move e-mails to their hard drive or delete them. When Lois Lerner’s hard drive crashed in 2011, the agency states, her saved e-mails were lost from her account and computer.
The IRS provided e-mails from 2011 in which Lerner asked IT support staff for help with her broken hard drive and missing e-mails. The agency says it has recovered 24,000 of those e-mails by searching the accounts of 83 other IRS employees who corresponded with Lerner.

According to these emails, Lerner and the IRS took almost heroic efforts to recover Lerner's files.
  Email exchange about Lerner hard drive

Here is where the explanation falls apart for losing the 1st six months of Lerner's email. At the time of the Lerner hard drive crash in what appears to be early July of 2011, her email files for the 1st six months of 2011 would be backed up on data tape by the IRS own admission. There may have been other files on Lerner's computer that weren't backed up and were unrecoverable. Actually, since they didn't reuse the tapes for six months, the oldest back up tape likely had several months of email from the end of 2010 too. If Lerner asked them to restore those files, they should be on her new computer. If she didn't ask to have copies of them sent to her, why not? Didn't she want her email anymore? I would think those would be some of the files someone would most want back. If the IRS can't produce them, they are lying or Lenner didn't want her email back. I will leave the speculation as too why that might be to the reader.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: email; gettherope; impeachnow; irs; loislerner; scandal

1 posted on 06/22/2014 2:54:04 PM PDT by Askwhy5times
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To: Askwhy5times
The why they are hiding these emails is easy. A lot of these emails go to her superiors and to political operatives in the White House. Possibly even the big guy. They prove her guilt and the guilt of those she sent them to who were directing the operation.

They would lead to impeachment and they must be suppressed.

2 posted on 06/22/2014 3:00:06 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: Askwhy5times

Lerner’s hard drive = red herring


3 posted on 06/22/2014 3:05:58 PM PDT by ComputerGuy
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To: Former Proud Canadian

“They would lead to impeachment and they must be suppressed. “

They won’t be available until the next president is in office. If it’s a Democrat they’ll have years to get rid of them permanently. If it’s a Republican (and he cares) the answer will be, “That was years ago. What difference does it make now?”


4 posted on 06/22/2014 3:10:01 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather
They are available now.

Whether people know it or not the President has blatantly used the power of an organ of the federal government (the IRS) to suppress his political opposition. This is a constitutional crisis of the highest order. This is a high crime.

Whatever the political cost, the emails must be found and impeachment must follow. If you wish to keep your republic the president must be impeached.

5 posted on 06/22/2014 3:20:56 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: Askwhy5times

The media went after Nixon because of 18 minutes of erased tapes and forced him from office. Let’s see EQUAL treatment for the democrats and Obama.


6 posted on 06/22/2014 3:25:16 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: Askwhy5times
Has anyone checked the “replacement” hard drives to see if they were indeed put into service just after the alleged crashes occurred, and there are no files with a creation date before the crash?

I could be wrong, but I have noticed the creation date is when a particular file was created on that particular computer...ie the date it is copied to a computer is shown as creation date, not the date it was originally created on another computer.

7 posted on 06/22/2014 3:27:24 PM PDT by dmet
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To: Former Proud Canadian

You are so right! We have to keep saying this loud and often. This must be kept in the nation’s eyes and ears due to the numbers of LIVs and those not paying attention.

HIGH CRIME
TREASON
IMPEACH


8 posted on 06/22/2014 3:47:14 PM PDT by jch10 (The Democrat mascot shouldnÂ’t be the donkey; it should be the tick.)
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To: Askwhy5times

Lerner needs to be jailed...the first of many.


9 posted on 06/22/2014 4:01:44 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: Askwhy5times

They have all of them. They are simply stalling till Zero starts issuing pardons.


10 posted on 06/22/2014 4:22:38 PM PDT by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: Askwhy5times
The IRS claims they can recover Lois Lerner's email from 2011

Desperately in need of an editor. Couldn't make it halfway through the opening sentence without blowing it?

11 posted on 06/22/2014 6:24:14 PM PDT by FirstFlaBn
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To: FirstFlaBn

“The IRS claims they can recover Lois Lerner’s email from 2011”

I haven’t seen or found that information. I suppose you have a link?


12 posted on 06/22/2014 6:46:03 PM PDT by Askwhy5times (http://bluegrasspundit.com/)
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To: FirstFlaBn
What you are stating conflicts wih what the IRS is telling Congress. http://taxprof.typepad.com/files/irs-description.pdf
In order to produce as much email on which Ms. Lerner was an author or recipient as possible, the IRS:  Retraced the collection process for Ms. Lerner’s computer to determine that all materials available in May 2013 were collected;  Located, processed, and included in its production email from an earlier 2011 data collection of Ms. Lerner’s email;  Confirmed that back-up tapes from 2011 no longer exist because they have been recycled (which not uncommon for large organizations in both the private and public sectors);  Searched email from other custodians for material on which Ms. Lerner appears as an author or recipient, then produced such email. As a result of these efforts, the IRS identified approximately 24,000 Lerner-related emails between January 1, 2009 and April 2011 in addition to those related to the processing and review of applications for tax-exempt status as described in the May 2013 TIGTA report, which have already been produced. All such emails have been or will be produced or made available to Congressional committees. In total, Congressional committees have received or will receive more than 67,000 emails in which Ms. Lerner was an author or a recipient.

13 posted on 06/22/2014 6:52:58 PM PDT by Askwhy5times (http://bluegrasspundit.com/)
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